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What Liz Cheney has figured out about Donald Trump and 2024

I'm not irritated and no...I don't want to speculate. I'll leave that to the Trump haters. They are good at it.

Speculate on what?
 

Trump... DeSantis or Owens...

If that is who you think should be President holy moly, America is beyond ****ed.
 

I think he has the power to bring someone down, but I'm not sure he has the power to elevate anyone.
 
Heck yes, the only democrat turned republican that I like.
 
Trump... DeSantis or Owens...

If that is who you think should be President holy moly, America is beyond ****ed.
What I said is those three have gotten the most crap thrown at them from the left. That is usually a sign those are the possible candidates they do not want to go up against.

Did you happen to catch the story today where it was revealed that the NYT's story on the intelligence community backed off reports that Russia placed bounties on the heads of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. Biden's intel said this week that the story was never verified. But leading up to the election the NYT's reported from their anonymous sources that it was true . Because of that story the Senate vetoed Trump hindering his efforts to get our soldiers home. But now that Biden has decided to bring the troops home from Afghanistan, his intel comes clean over the bogus story so it clears the way for Biden to do what Trump fought against the neo cons in his own party to do it. I am not a betting woman but in this instance my guess would be it was the friggin neo-cons that actually started the false story to hinder Trump.

When someone says the term neo-con it is important to understand where the term came from. In the 60's and 70's the Democratic Party the majority had become pacifists. The hawks in the party were not happy with that stance as well as their stance on social issues. The term neoconservative was popularized during by the 70's by a socialist leader Michael Harrington who used the term to define Democrats Bell, Moynihan and Irving Kristol. whose ideologies differed from Harrington's. The term started in the Democratic party and now it is a term that is used to identify Republican hawks.
 
Trump didn't try to steal any election.
He absolutely did but in your world Trump is a morally upstanding genius who cares only about others

AKA fantasy land
 
Trump has never been right since the day he became a self centered political animal and 30,500 lies later documents such
 
Nobody's talking about Liz Cheney running for President, so your question will never come up.
Anyone Trump endorses will not win the presidential election in 2024
He is an albatross
 
Anyone Trump endorses will not win the presidential election in 2024
He is an albatross
LOL, he'll be running himself. You are delusional.
 

Republican senators found the NYT more credible than Trump. Although Biden points out, it isn't completely discredited.
 
Republican senators found the NYT more credible than Trump. Although Biden points out, it isn't completely discredited.
Republican senators who did not want to see the troops come home from Afghanistan is the only time they joined the Democrats to veto Trump. All they needed is an excuse and the NYT's report gave them the excuse. Biden's own intel has stated the level of it being true was very low. In other words it was never verified. Nothing in the intel is completely verified but when it is at a level so low it is treated as false.
 

This is the only comment I've read so far, but I'll continue reading after I post this comment.
I think Cheney is history in Wyoming. I think she'll lose in 22.
I think it very likely Trump will be the 24 nominee if he chooses to run.
I don't think a single Dem would vote for Trump. Independents - now I think that's a different situation. My guess is Biden policy, and how very far left he's willing to go, has been shocking to many. But, most importantly, I think the complete disaster he's invited at the border will be incredibly difficult for him to escape. In all polls, his border and immigration numbers are terrible - often in the 20s (and going down with each poll) when he's typically in the 50s on most other issues. So, who Independents will vote for will, IMO, be far more dependent on Biden actions and policy than on whether or not Trump is the nominee. Biden offends few and Trump offends many. BUT, Trump policy was good for America and was absolutely mainstream compared to Biden's. Trump was pro-America. Biden was a nothing in the election. The entire election was anti-Trump. But now, that has changed dramatically. Biden's decisions/actions/policy are front and center. I think Biden (his policy!) will have far more influence on Independents in 24 than Trump, the personality, will - should Trump be the nominee.
Trump's first step will be 22 and seeing how much impact he can have on the midterm. My guess is it will be significant. After we see how 22 goes, I think Trump will make his personal decision about 24.
I think there are 3 excellent speculative candidates in your list of 7. We'll see what Trump decides and if any of those 7 decide to take him on if he chooses to run. If Trump runs, I think he'll be a serious force to reckon with. I think he still has significant support and it is now known that the policy differences between a Joe Biden and Donald Trump are huge and very significant to the country.
 
4. The fact is, if Trump decides to run in 2024, he will be President again. If he doesn't decide to run, then whomever he endorses will be President.
I certainly think this is quite possibly true.
 
Could you vote for Cheney if she won the nomination?
I'd address this question if I thought it was at all possible - but I'd put the chances of this happening at a solid 0.
 
I don't agree with this. Trump has surprised me quite a bit with how quiet he's been willing to be since his term ended. If Trump doesn't run, I think he'll be working hard on behalf of a presidential candidate/nominee and on behalf of congressional candidates, but I think the part which will be about him will be his ability to be influential with voters - and I think he'll very successfully play a significant role in that way. He'll know it and he'll boast about it. And maybe, rightfully so as I think he'll have great influence!
 
I am asking you to speculate. Does that make you uncomfortable? You seem irritated by the question.
Sorry, but it's too stupid of a question to speculate about. If you want to know how I think she'd do as a candidate, I think she'd be out sooner than Kamala was. There is simply no chance she'd ever be the Republican nominee.
 

It appears you didn't read this part of my comment: " That tactic has been used before by the GOP Elites ".

In any case, it also appears you don't understand how the "split the vote" tactic used by the GOP Elites operates. It has nothing to do with "ghost candidates". Think about it...there were no ghost candidates in the 2016 Republican primary. If you want to know how it works, let me know and I'll direct you to a knowledgeable source.
 
Oh, I hadn't yet heard about the Jones' announcement. Very interesting, indeed!
 
Yes I did and saw so many of the tapes of the fake BS the MSM was spewing about that story back then. It's just amazing isn't it? Every single thing they report is a fabrication for political gain and political harm. The depths of the corrupt swamp is simply stunning.
 

Sadly, Trump's credibility, especially with Russia, was so shot, not even Republican senators believed him.
 
Is Mike Pompeo getting short shrift here?
 
Trump has never been right since the day he became a self centered political animal and 30,500 lies later documents such
Was that before, or after, Trump switched from being a life-long Democrat to become a Republican in 2012?
 
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