What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

[Moot]

Progressive parent to preteen: "You don't have to worry about me judging you for drinking, doing drugs, or selling your body into prostitution. I believe that whatever feels good to you is right for you and I am here to help you achieve happiness."

Progressive preteen to parent: Gee dad, why do you have to exaggerate everything so much? Isn't it better to be informed and know how to protect myself from STD's and unwanted pregnancies than to just pretend sex isn't real?

 

[Lisa]

Stupid leftists may not like the fact that the Constitution gives Christians the right to believe and obey God in the free exercise of their religion, but the SCOTUS has affirmed the Christian's rights over the bad attitudes and uncivilized discrimination of sodomites.

Nobody is saying y that you cannot believe in and worship God as you choose because you have the constitutional right to worship a rusty Edsel hubcap and 2 broken Pez dispensers if you choose to do so, but you do not have the right to deny others equal rights because of your religious beliefs when you voluntarily operate a business that serves the public. Your religious beliefs have never included discrimination.

R'amen.

 

[charliebrown]

You blame your elected officials for this happening. If you want it changed vote them out of office. If the voters keep voting for them they must approve of the decisions in you schools. If you disagree you should move.

I agree with your comment to move, this is the reason I prefer more state rights and more state involvement in social issues. It gives citizens the ability to avoid bad government. Once we give all of our power over to the federal government, then we are limited to moving out of the country for greener pastures.

 

[Peter King]

Any Christian who reads this forum should easily see why every Christian should vote straight Republican for every office in ever election as if their lives and that of their children and grandchildren depend upon it.

Many to most Democrats on this forum look for any opportunity to divert any topic to their rants and sneering out their unlimited bigotry and hatred of over 70% of Americans - Christians. If the new International Atheist Fascist Democratic Party controlled by the corporate super rich every gain the total control of government they want, the mass imprisonment and murdering of Christians would make the Nazi Holocaust seem like a picnic.

Christians need to grasp that many of the new Fascist Progressive Democrats want you to denounce your religion, bow down the the corporate super rich who are their gods, or die! They will torture and murder you to death if they ever got the chance.

:lamo

Why do christian republican extremists always need to lie?

Fact, the only christian group that is by a large percentage republican is the evangalicals, about 56% says they are republican and 28% say they are democrats (the rest is no lean).

All other religious groups (except for mormons) are about equally split or by a large split democratic.

buddhists: 16% republican, 69% democrat
catholics: 37% republican, 44% democrat
hindu: 16% republican, 69% democrat
historically black protestant: 10% republican, 80% democrat
jehova's: 7% republican, 18% democrat
jewish: 26%republican, 64% democrat
mainline protestant: 44% republican, 69% democrat
muslim: 17% republican, 62% democrat
orthodox christians: 34% republican, 44% democrat
no religion: 23% republican, 54% democrat

The vast majority of both democrats, republicans and independents are people who believe in god.

When one looks at republicans who seldom or never go to church that percentage is 23%, among independents it is 35% and among democrats it is also 35%.

62% of republicans pray daily, 53% of independents and 50% of democrats pray daily.

Of the democratic senators and congressman/women 78.4% is christian, 11.3% is Jewish, and most others are either buddhist, hindu, muslim, unitarian and unaffiliated.

So your entire diatribe about the democrats hating 70% of the US people (bull crap) and atheist fascist democrats is a big pile of horse manure and makes you look :cuckoo: :tocktock2 :crazy3:

 

[Lisa]

We teach other Christians to vote, to speak out, to organize protests, to do whatever can be done to influence lawmakers to pass good laws and not bad.

Your religious beliefs are not to be determining the secular and religious rights of others because of the separation of church and state. WEe cannot permit any religious group to legislate secular law by filtering the actions of the state through the religious text of your choice. You would be livid if Muslims, Hindus, Pagans, and Zoroastrians did that to you so, what makes you believe that you can do it to anyone else? Your idea would create a tyranny of the majority because Protestant Christians in the US would trample the religious and secular rights of everyone else, despite the religious protections of the First Amendment.

The state cannot enforce religious morality as secular law because there are as many ideas of what is moral as there are of who is or isn't god.

 

[Lisa]

I agree with your comment to move, this is the reason I prefer more state rights and more state involvement in social issues. It gives citizens the ability to avoid bad government. Once we give all of our power over to the federal government, then we are limited to moving out of the country for greener pastures.

What is being taken away from you or anyone else because the state is protecting the equal rights of minorities, be it ethnic or social minorities, from discrimination by Christian conservatives?

 

[Peter King]

How old were you when your school sex education showed you how to properly put on a condom and were there girls present with you in that class?

At age 14/15 and yes, there were girls present. For them it is even more important to know how a condom looks and how it is put on. It was also told to them that they had to make sure sperm killing paste was used so that pregnancy would be avoided. At social studies we were also told not to have sex on a dare, not to be pressured into sex, that waiting to have sex was not just fine but also perfectly OK and that girls had the right to always say no. That sex was not something you should use as a tic tac or chewing gum, once you lost your virginity it was gone. But we were a christian school and still nobody mentioned waiting till marriage as that was something our parents were supposed to teach if they thought that was important.

Mental health and physical health were held in much higher regard than religious doctrine because that has no place in a biology lesson.

And with 14/15, that means I got it the lessons at late 14 because I was born into the new school year. I went to secondary school when I was 5 and was always one year ahead of all other kids who did not have their birthday in late August/beginning of September. I graduated primary school when I was still 11 and went onto secondary education when I was 14 or 15 when the condom stuff was taught, most kids were 15 or 16.

The most embarrassing moment was however when our gay teacher (yes we had a gay biology teacher, a sweet man who did everything for us and who never spoke a word about his sexual preference) told us what wet dreams were, that every boy had them and that it was nothing to be ashamed about.

As far as I know nobody in my class had sex before 17 and I was 19. Sex education when it is given properly does not hasten sex or slow it down considerably, what it does do is prevent STD spread and unwanted pregnancies/abortions.

 

[Peter King]

Stupid leftists may not like the fact that the Constitution gives Christians the right to believe and obey God in the free exercise of their religion, but the SCOTUS has affirmed the Christian's rights over the bad attitudes and uncivilized discrimination of sodomites.

Ooh I could care less that you believe in god or practice that faith. But nowhere in the bible does it say that it is forbidden to bake a cake for gays or that you can pick and choose the laws you obey in the country you live in. Nor does it mean that a baker can pick and choose which laws he wants to comply with. He has to comply with them all.

Hey, if you didn't want to become a baker that might be asked to bake a cake for a gay wedding, you should not have started selling wedding cakes. Disclaimer here: with wedding cake I mean neutral wedding cakes that are bought off spec from a sample book. It does not have to include the names of the bride and bride or the groom and groom, that is artistic license that does not have to be provided. It also does not have to include 2 grooms on top of the wedding cake or 2 brides on the top because that too is artistic license. The wedding cake of the sample book has a bride and a groom and that is what you will get. If you want to replace it with 2 grooms/2 brides that is something the buyer has to do for himself. Nobody can force a baker who does not have wedding cakes in his business model to start baking them just because a gay person asks for it. That he may do one in a blue moon for a friend or co-worker is not sufficient grounds for other people to demand him to bake one.

And for the rest they have to shut up and bake. They are also not mandated to deliver to a gay wedding ceremony. If the gay couple wants the cake they can come and pick it up. It would be childish of the baker not to deliver it but that I might agree with that they can refuse to do that. Baking a standard cake however cannot be refused.

 

[Peter King]

:lamo

Why do christian republican extremists always need to lie?

Fact, the only christian group that is by a large percentage republican is the evangalicals, about 56% says they are republican and 28% say they are democrats (the rest is no lean).

All other religious groups (except for mormons) are about equally split or by a large split democratic.

buddhists: 16% republican, 69% democrat
catholics: 37% republican, 44% democrat
hindu: 16% republican, 69% democrat
historically black protestant: 10% republican, 80% democrat
jehova's: 7% republican, 18% democrat
jewish: 26%republican, 64% democrat
mainline protestant: 44% republican, 69% democrat
muslim: 17% republican, 62% democrat
orthodox christians: 34% republican, 44% democrat
no religion: 23% republican, 54% democrat

The vast majority of both democrats, republicans and independents are people who believe in god.

When one looks at republicans who seldom or never go to church that percentage is 23%, among independents it is 35% and among democrats it is also 35%.

62% of republicans pray daily, 53% of independents and 50% of democrats pray daily.

Of the democratic senators and congressman/women 78.4% is christian, 11.3% is Jewish, and most others are either buddhist, hindu, muslim, unitarian and unaffiliated.

So your entire diatribe about the democrats hating 70% of the US people (bull crap) and atheist fascist democrats is a big pile of horse manure and makes you look :cuckoo: :tocktock2 :crazy3:

Clumsy little sausage fingers strikes again, it should of course be:

mainline protestant: 44% republican, 40% democrat

 

[Master Debator]

Public school teacher to 7th grade girls:

'Listen up, girls. Today we are going to discuss sex. You need to learn these things for your own good. Let me offer our outline from California law and curricula:'


Lubricants promote a safer sex experience by decreasing friction.

Using lubrication enhances pleasure during sex.

Additives to lubricants such as glycerin can create an enhancement that is friendlier to yeast infections.

California's New Sex-Ed Curriculum is About to Roll Out...What You Need to Know

I love how you're so concerned about girls being taught it's okay to enjoy sex...

Worried your wife might come to some sort of revelation are you....:lamo

 

[marke]

Progressive preteen to parent: Gee dad, why do you have to exaggerate everything so much? Isn't it better to be informed and know how to protect myself from STD's and unwanted pregnancies than to just pretend sex isn't real?

Tell kids sex is for married adults and anything outside of that is wrong. That is all they need to know for now.

 

[marke]

Nobody is saying y that you cannot believe in and worship God as you choose because you have the constitutional right to worship a rusty Edsel hubcap and 2 broken Pez dispensers if you choose to do so, but you do not have the right to deny others equal rights because of your religious beliefs when you voluntarily operate a business that serves the public. Your religious beliefs have never included discrimination.

R'amen.

The Constitution does not consider it right to deny an American's right to religious convictions just because you think those convictions are wrong and you have passed laws outlawing those convictions.

 

[marke]

Your religious beliefs are not to be determining the secular and religious rights of others because of the separation of church and state. WEe cannot permit any religious group to legislate secular law by filtering the actions of the state through the religious text of your choice. You would be livid if Muslims, Hindus, Pagans, and Zoroastrians did that to you so, what makes you believe that you can do it to anyone else? Your idea would create a tyranny of the majority because Protestant Christians in the US would trample the religious and secular rights of everyone else, despite the religious protections of the First Amendment.

The state cannot enforce religious morality as secular law because there are as many ideas of what is moral as there are of who is or isn't god.

Tyranny is forcing a Christian to violate his convictions just because you hate God. The sodomite is free to take his business elsewhere if he encounters a Christian who is unwilling to serve him in an inappropriate way on religious grounds. There is no Constitutional right for sodomites to force Christians to accept homosexuality.

 

[marke]

What is being taken away from you or anyone else because the state is protecting the equal rights of minorities, be it ethnic or social minorities, from discrimination by Christian conservatives?

Minorities do not have the right to violate a Christian's right to freely exercise his religion.

 

[marke]

At age 14/15 and yes, there were girls present. For them it is even more important to know how a condom looks and how it is put on. It was also told to them that they had to make sure sperm killing paste was used so that pregnancy would be avoided. At social studies we were also told not to have sex on a dare, not to be pressured into sex, that waiting to have sex was not just fine but also perfectly OK and that girls had the right to always say no. That sex was not something you should use as a tic tac or chewing gum, once you lost your virginity it was gone. But we were a christian school and still nobody mentioned waiting till marriage as that was something our parents were supposed to teach if they thought that was important.

Mental health and physical health were held in much higher regard than religious doctrine because that has no place in a biology lesson.

And with 14/15, that means I got it the lessons at late 14 because I was born into the new school year. I went to secondary school when I was 5 and was always one year ahead of all other kids who did not have their birthday in late August/beginning of September. I graduated primary school when I was still 11 and went onto secondary education when I was 14 or 15 when the condom stuff was taught, most kids were 15 or 16.

The most embarrassing moment was however when our gay teacher (yes we had a gay biology teacher, a sweet man who did everything for us and who never spoke a word about his sexual preference) told us what wet dreams were, that every boy had them and that it was nothing to be ashamed about.

As far as I know nobody in my class had sex before 17 and I was 19. Sex education when it is given properly does not hasten sex or slow it down considerably, what it does do is prevent STD spread and unwanted pregnancies/abortions.

Hedonist savages may feel some need to teach their children how to have safe, pleasurable sex if that is what they want for their children. But God condemns sexual immorality and kids don't need to be shown how to put a condom on an erect penis if the adults don't want them having sex until they get married.

 

[marke]

Ooh I could care less that you believe in god or practice that faith. But nowhere in the bible does it say that it is forbidden to bake a cake for gays or that you can pick and choose the laws you obey in the country you live in. Nor does it mean that a baker can pick and choose which laws he wants to comply with. He has to comply with them all.

Hey, if you didn't want to become a baker that might be asked to bake a cake for a gay wedding, you should not have started selling wedding cakes. Disclaimer here: with wedding cake I mean neutral wedding cakes that are bought off spec from a sample book. It does not have to include the names of the bride and bride or the groom and groom, that is artistic license that does not have to be provided. It also does not have to include 2 grooms on top of the wedding cake or 2 brides on the top because that too is artistic license. The wedding cake of the sample book has a bride and a groom and that is what you will get. If you want to replace it with 2 grooms/2 brides that is something the buyer has to do for himself. Nobody can force a baker who does not have wedding cakes in his business model to start baking them just because a gay person asks for it. That he may do one in a blue moon for a friend or co-worker is not sufficient grounds for other people to demand him to bake one.

And for the rest they have to shut up and bake. They are also not mandated to deliver to a gay wedding ceremony. If the gay couple wants the cake they can come and pick it up. It would be childish of the baker not to deliver it but that I might agree with that they can refuse to do that. Baking a standard cake however cannot be refused.

In a free society a business owner has liberty to do business without violating his religious convictions. In a totalitarian society the 'authorities' can tell the business owner to do whatever they want him to do and tell him he can take his religion and go to hell if he doesn't like it.

 

[TheGoverness]

Hedonist savages may feel some need to teach their children how to have safe, pleasurable sex if that is what they want for their children. But God condemns sexual immorality and kids don't need to be shown how to put a condom on an erect penis if the adults don't want them having sex until they get married.

Nobody gives a **** what "God" condemns. This is not a theocracy; this is a secular society.

 

[marke]

I love how you're so concerned about girls being taught it's okay to enjoy sex...

Worried your wife might come to some sort of revelation are you....:lamo

My wife and I both read a book on giving and getting sexual satisfaction right before we married. Kids don't need to know how to give pleasure to others in sex just because their adult handlers think they should be practicing sex as kids.

 

[marke]

What is being taken away from you or anyone else because the state is protecting the equal rights of minorities, be it ethnic or social minorities, from discrimination by Christian conservatives?

What is being taken away from sodomites when a Christian tells them he cannot participate in gay weddings for religious reasons? Let the good and kind sodomites have compassion on the Christian and just go elsewhere to get a cake made.

 

[marke]

Nobody gives a **** what "God" condemns. This is not a theocracy; this is a secular society.

America is not a nation which tells Christians "We don't give a **** about your religious convictions."

 

[TheGoverness]

America is not a nation which tells Christians "We don't give a **** about your religious convictions."

When your religious convictions violate the rights of others, then yes, we don't give a ****. For example, if you're a county clerk who's against gay marriage, and you try to refuse a gay couple a marriage license, you will be gone after for doing that. You can't just use your "religious conviction" as justification to step over the rights of others.

 

[Master Debator]

My wife and I both read a book on giving and getting sexual satisfaction right before we married. Kids don't need to know how to give pleasure to others in sex just because their adult handlers think they should be practicing sex as kids.

:unsure13:

 

[TheGoverness]

My wife and I both read a book on giving and getting sexual satisfaction right before we married. Kids don't need to know how to give pleasure to others in sex just because their adult handlers think they should be practicing sex as kids.

Teens need to know the basics and workings of sex, because many of them will have sex, and it's better to know how to do it responsibly and safely, instead of going into it totally blind. Abstinence doesn't do anything, besides closing your eyes, plugging your ears, and going, "Nah! Nah! Nah! Nah", as if not addressing the issue at hand here, somehow makes it go away. It's ridiculous.

 

[TheGoverness]

Kids, don't listen to foolish teachers who tell you that random premarital sex is harmless, safe and normal.

LOL, premarital sex is absolutely harmless, and there's nothing inherently wrong with it at all. I wouldn't ever marry someone I didn't have sex with, because sexual intimacy is a very important thing in a relationship, and I've got to know if we're sexually compatible before I ever make that big of a leap. But then again, I'm not a fundamentalist Christian, so I'm thinking about this a whole lot more rationally than you are.

 

[TheGoverness]

1. Boys have boy sex organs which make them boys and girls have unique physical characteristics which make them girls.

2. Sex before marriage is dangerous and has many unintended negative consequences which may affect kids for their whole lives.

3. Pornography is bad and should never be displayed in classrooms with children.

LOL, the award for Worst Sexual Education Class on the planet goes to....