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What is your suggested Dem policy platform for 2028?

LOL! That ship sailed years ago.

Yes, accusations can be interesting. Sources say....
Yes, interesting. Especially, when one of the accusations comes from an ex-wife. And, when you've also been held liable for sexual assault. And, when you've admitted that you can't help your urges. Not interesting enough to MAGA, though. They love their lying billionaire sexual deviant.
 
Beshear is hardy a hillbilly. Interesting you would stereotype him that way.

Fair enough. I'll rephrase:

The problem is liberal democrats from California, NY, and Illinois aren't going to vote for a god-fearing white man from Kentucky.
 
Fair enough. I'll rephrase:

The problem is liberal democrats from California, NY, and Illinois aren't going to vote for a god-fearing white man from Kentucky.
Believing in God isn’t the problem. Using it to dictate public policy and promote one religion over all others is the real problem you’re attempting to define here. What makes you think Beshear would act in that way that would turn off Democrats?
 
Believing in God isn’t the problem. Using it to dictate public policy and promote one religion over all others is the real problem you’re attempting to define here. What makes you think Beshear would act in that way that would turn off Democrats?

This is the party of identity politics we're talking about. Beshear represents everything they hate: god-fearing white man with a gun.

And how the hell is Andy Beshear going to win the democratic primary against the progressives, in a party that is moving further left by the day?
 
Here's mine:

1. Focus economic message on the working/middle class. Frame the working/middle class as the backbone of America. Working hard is a defining quality of being an American. Working people deserve to be honored and treated fairly for their hard work. That means supporting the social safety net so people can eventually retire with economic security, higher minimum wage, workplace protections, the right to unionize, and coming up with policies that decrease healthcare, housing, and education costs. The Republicans purport to stand for the working class but consistently screw them over when given power. Why is it that small towns all over red state America are dying, despite Republicans being in control of those towns for decades and decades?

2. Don't demonize the rich, but emphasize that it doesn't make sense to put ourselves in increasingly dangerous debt to give them tax breaks when they are already doing better than ever before in American history. Most people don't hate rich people and are turned off by class warfare messaging. This needs to be addressed as a pragmatic point. The rich do not need any special help in today's world. We need to bring the budget into greater balance, and we can't do that without raising taxes on the wealthy.

3. Reform the cost of education. Target this at young people. The cost of college is ridiculous. Colleges need to be held accountable when they graduate students who can't find jobs to pay off their debt. This is putting young people far behind their parents in terms of buying houses and starting families, and it hurts the economy.

4. Return to sanity. No more unhinged social media rants. No more incessant partisan trolling. Focus on actually making people's lives better and working together. Trump/MAGA have made American political discourse far nastier than it needs to be or than it was previously. We cannot allow that to become the new normal.

5. Appointments based on merit / end corruption. Emphasize that cabinet offices will be staffed by the most qualified individuals. Frame the Trump administration as the most corrupt and incompetent in American history. He promised to drain the swamp but instead has packed the government with cronies, donors, and extremists.

6. Racial togetherness message. America is a diverse country and we need to come together. The constitution demands that people be judged based on their merit, not their race. Promise not to support policies that divide people based on race. Emphasize that when we adopt education and economic policies that support low- and middle-income families, that will benefit people of color without excluding anyone who is similarly situated.

7. Immigration. We need to enforce our immigration laws, but prioritize the deportation of criminals, treat all immigrants with basic dignity, and follow legal requirements and processes. Promise to keep Trump policies that have been effective while eradicating those that are unconstitutional, inhumane, or impractical. Support pathway to citizenship for immigrants who have been here decades.

8. Reform SCOTUS appointments. Promise that any SCOTUS nominees will come from a list proposed by a bipartisan or nonpartisan commission. Develop other ideas that don't involve packing the court. We cannot allow any more ideologues on the high court.

9. Campaign finance reform. Emphasize the risk of certain bad actors using their extreme wealth to influence politics. Even MAGA hate Musk. We need to do everything in our power to reform campaign finance, even if that means amending the constitution. SCOTUS reforms will also help.

10. Tariffs. We will negotiate better trade deals with other countries, but the current negotiation style is too erratic and is damaging businesses and hurting consumers. And we should not be alienating our closest allies and trade partners like the current administration is doing.

11. Israel/Palestine. Israel was the victim of a horrific terrorist attack and we will do everything we can to stop terrorism and antisemitism at home and abroad. That said, Israel has gone far beyond any reasonable response to that attack, and we cannot ignore our own role in facilitating those abuses through our funding of that state. Neither of the past two administrations have applied sufficient pressure to coerce Israel to end hostilities, avoid civilian deaths, and begin the rebuilding process.

12. Biden. Acknowledge that the Biden administration made mistakes on inflation, immigration, and lack of transparency regarding his health. Promise not to repeat those mistakes.
At base that all sounds pretty good.

When do you announce your candidacy? ;)
 
This is the party of identity politics we're talking about. Beshear represents everything they hate: god-fearing white man with a gun.

And how the hell is Andy Beshear going to win the democratic primary against the progressives, in a party that is moving further left by the day?
I can say the exact same thing about the gop being 100% identity politics. Hell they can’t even agree on common sense things like background checks for gun ownership. Anyways I think you have it all wrong about god and guns as I previously stated.
 
But it will work for the Democratic primary, and you have to win that to become president. That's where my girl AOC is going to pummel both of those losers. You can't out-prog a demsoc.
Do you believe the Democrats will hold a Democratic Primary, allowing voters to choose the candidate?
 
But the candidate was not chosen by that process.

Actually, I would end the ****ing stupidity (unique to the United States) of using primary elections to choose candidates. Parties should choose their candidates internally.

We did much better when Presidential candidates were selected in smoke filled rooms.
 
Actually, I would end the ****ing stupidity (unique to the United States) of using primary elections to choose candidates. Parties should choose their candidates internally.

We did much better when Presidential candidates were selected in smoke filled rooms.
In reality, they still are. It comes down to who has the best funding supplied by those guiding the outcome.
 
Good question. Beshear is religious, pro-gun rights, and from <gasp> Kentucky.

I don't see liberal democrats getting behind this guy.

And that's why Liberal (Prog) Democrats are the biggest problem of the party right now.
 
2. Don't demonize the rich, Democrats are now the party of elitism

Democrats weren't the ones some months back profiting off a meme coin by selling a "Dinner with the President".


4. Return to sanity. Trump is the Roadrunner. The insanity was always the coyote.

Trump is Wile E Coyote. And he loves strapping his ass onto an Acme rocket despite knowing how the trip will end.

5. Appointments based on merit / end corruption. Trump's often maligned appointments have done fairly well.

Sure.

The ones who are the most despised so far has been narrowed down to:
Nutlick
Haggis
Bondi
RFKrazy

11. Israel/Palestine. Democrats need to acknowledge Israel

They need to just get rid of AOC's anti-Semite Prog Squad.

Only 2 got escorted to the unemployment line last election.
 
Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't change the fact its a pig.
 
Here's mine:

1. Focus economic message on the working/middle class. Frame the working/middle class as the backbone of America. Working hard is a defining quality of being an American. Working people deserve to be honored and treated fairly for their hard work. That means supporting the social safety net so people can eventually retire with economic security, higher minimum wage, workplace protections, the right to unionize, and coming up with policies that decrease healthcare, housing, and education costs. The Republicans purport to stand for the working class but consistently screw them over when given power. Why is it that small towns all over red state America are dying, despite Republicans being in control of those towns for decades and decades?

2. Don't demonize the rich, but emphasize that it doesn't make sense to put ourselves in increasingly dangerous debt to give them tax breaks when they are already doing better than ever before in American history. Most people don't hate rich people and are turned off by class warfare messaging. This needs to be addressed as a pragmatic point. The rich do not need any special help in today's world. We need to bring the budget into greater balance, and we can't do that without raising taxes on the wealthy.

3. Reform the cost of education. Target this at young people. The cost of college is ridiculous. Colleges need to be held accountable when they graduate students who can't find jobs to pay off their debt. This is putting young people far behind their parents in terms of buying houses and starting families, and it hurts the economy.

4. Return to sanity. No more unhinged social media rants. No more incessant partisan trolling. Focus on actually making people's lives better and working together. Trump/MAGA have made American political discourse far nastier than it needs to be or than it was previously. We cannot allow that to become the new normal.

5. Appointments based on merit / end corruption. Emphasize that cabinet offices will be staffed by the most qualified individuals. Frame the Trump administration as the most corrupt and incompetent in American history. He promised to drain the swamp but instead has packed the government with cronies, donors, and extremists.

6. Racial togetherness message. America is a diverse country and we need to come together. The constitution demands that people be judged based on their merit, not their race. Promise not to support policies that divide people based on race. Emphasize that when we adopt education and economic policies that support low- and middle-income families, that will benefit people of color without excluding anyone who is similarly situated.

7. Immigration. We need to enforce our immigration laws, but prioritize the deportation of criminals, treat all immigrants with basic dignity, and follow legal requirements and processes. Promise to keep Trump policies that have been effective while eradicating those that are unconstitutional, inhumane, or impractical. Support pathway to citizenship for immigrants who have been here decades.

8. Reform SCOTUS appointments. Promise that any SCOTUS nominees will come from a list proposed by a bipartisan or nonpartisan commission. Develop other ideas that don't involve packing the court. We cannot allow any more ideologues on the high court.

9. Campaign finance reform. Emphasize the risk of certain bad actors using their extreme wealth to influence politics. Even MAGA hate Musk. We need to do everything in our power to reform campaign finance, even if that means amending the constitution. SCOTUS reforms will also help.

10. Tariffs. We will negotiate better trade deals with other countries, but the current negotiation style is too erratic and is damaging businesses and hurting consumers. And we should not be alienating our closest allies and trade partners like the current administration is doing.

11. Israel/Palestine. Israel was the victim of a horrific terrorist attack and we will do everything we can to stop terrorism and antisemitism at home and abroad. That said, Israel has gone far beyond any reasonable response to that attack, and we cannot ignore our own role in facilitating those abuses through our funding of that state. Neither of the past two administrations have applied sufficient pressure to coerce Israel to end hostilities, avoid civilian deaths, and begin the rebuilding process.

12. Biden. Acknowledge that the Biden administration made mistakes on inflation, immigration, and lack of transparency regarding his health. Promise not to repeat those mistakes.


These are great points. You should email the DNC about them.
 
And that's why Liberal (Prog) Democrats are the biggest problem of the party right now.

If Mamdani wins it will be a major victory for the progressive wing, and it will in turn push the party to the left whether the establishment dems like it or not.
 
Democrats weren't the ones some months back profiting off a meme coin by selling a "Dinner with the President".
Democrats are the ones with Big Tech, Hollywood, Academia, Big Law, Media, and Gender Activism.

Trump is Wile E Coyote. And he loves strapping his ass onto an Acme rocket despite knowing how the trip will end.
Trump is the one who always gets away, which makes him the Roadrunner.

In this scenario, you and yours are Wile E Coyote.

Sure. The ones who are the most despised so far has been narrowed down to:
Nutlick
Haggis
Bondi
RFKrazy
Cool.

They need to just get rid of AOC's anti-Semite Prog Squad.
It's not enough but it would be a decent start.

Only 2 got escorted to the unemployment line last election.
Only. :rolleyes:
 
Because he's a normal electable family guy. Much like Obama. ( Yeah, I know, he's white.) He also is pretty much a centrist in a very conservative state.

Corey Booker and Kamala are going to try to out Prog each other. That's not going to work for a national election.

IIRC, KY has a 4% (flat) rate state income tax and a sales tax of 6%. That’s fairly reasonable, but I’m not sure about KY’s county/city property and ‘piggy back’ taxes.
 
IIRC, KY has a 4% (flat) rate state income tax and a sales tax of 6%. That’s fairly reasonable, but I’m not sure about KY’s county/city property and ‘piggy back’ taxes.

Property taxes in Kentucky are relatively low compared to other States.
 
1. There's always the guillotine if you keep this shit up, rich ****ers.

2. Or, the rope.

3. We might let you choose.

4. We might not.

5. You have a month.
IKEA has a solution!

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