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What is Your Status on Receiving the Covid Vaccine?

What is your present status on receiving the Covid Vaccine?

  • I have completed my first and second injection

    Votes: 104 42.4%
  • I have received my first and will get my second one soon

    Votes: 57 23.3%
  • I have made an appointment to receive my first injection

    Votes: 17 6.9%
  • I have made an appointment to receive the once only Johnson & Johnson vaccine

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • I have received my once only Johnson and Johnson Vaccine

    Votes: 9 3.7%
  • I am undecided at this point

    Votes: 6 2.4%
  • I am having trouble getting an appointment

    Votes: 9 3.7%
  • I am presently below the minimum age

    Votes: 26 10.6%
  • I refuse to get the vaccine

    Votes: 15 6.1%

  • Total voters
    245
Congratulations on getting everyone vaccinated. You have been extremely dedicated to this cause. (y)

I am of the generation were vaccination was just done.
I see only one way out of this, vaccinate, vaccinate.
I would like to have as much as possible of my pre covid live back, in private and at work.
That can only happen if I promote, encourage the people around me to get vaccinated.
I had to educate myself about the vaccines and stay current, so I can answer questions, encourage, convince all the people I know to get vaccinated, even my customers.

It has to be a community effort, to get the folks on the fence to get vaccinated, with all the crap which gets spread over social media.

Last Friday I had my Tetanus vaccination, it know includes 2 more, its a 10 year triple shot.
Immune is such a nice word, don't you think so ?
 
exactly, this is why it took only 40 man hours to come up with the vaccine once China released it's genetic code.
People think Warp Speed was responsible for the swiftness of the vaccine when in reality Warp Speed did not even exist when the vaccine was already completed.

Wait....I thought the jackass was fully responsible for the development of the Moderna vaccine??
The followers of his cult must be very disappointed to learn this fact.
 
Wait....I thought the jackass was fully responsible for the development of the Moderna vaccine??
The followers of his cult must be very disappointed to learn this fact.

No, not at all. They don't learn. ;)
 
Got my 2nd does of the Pfizer on Wednesday and they tried to give me a sticker, like I'm a 6 year old...really? :p
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exactly, this is why it took only 40 man hours to come up with the vaccine once China released it's genetic code.
People think Warp Speed was responsible for the swiftness of the vaccine when in reality Warp Speed did not even exist when the vaccine was already completed.

It took a little bit more than 40man hours.
The owners of bioNtech decided in January 2020 to develop a mRNA vaccine for c19. It took 3 month of triple shifts, 7 days a week, to get the first prototypes to Phase 1 and Phase 2 testing. They stopped every other project they had going and put everybody on the c19 project.
They risked their company, going belly up, during the first 3 month. But when they were able to show they had a rather superb prototype during Phase 2, some serious money flowed into the company. When Pfizer joined, they had over 1 billion cash on hand, from their investors for further development of the vaccine prototype and the Phase 3.
Despite its very difficult initional storage temp, of -100F, which got now lowered to -20, it is the juice with the least problems and as research has shown the most effective

BioNtech made a very bolt decision in Jan 2020 and than choose its partner very wisely. With Pfizer backing them, they got that Israel contract, which provides them all those research data. Israel became their test bed, with millions of vaccinations with different strains.

This was a very gutsy and very well organized operation, next to flawless. Never seen anything like that on that scale.

If you give cutting edge science all the money it needs, send the bean counters home, you get the bioNtech/Pfizer vaccine in record time. Its all about money, spending, making comes later.
It takes money to make money.

Now look into the future. mRNA was just a research, for cancer, HIV, depending on rather rich donators. Think about the money those small companies are now making. Not loosing several 100 millions a year, but making billions a year. We will see a explosion in further vaccines, various cancers, HIV, Ebola and so on.

In a way, always looking at the bright side, in a decade we might look back and say, we made a quantum jump in vaccine technologies, because of C19.
 
It took a little bit more than 40man hours.
The owners of bioNtech decided in January 2020 to develop a mRNA vaccine for c19.



“It took us less than 40 hours [to map the genome], so very, very fast,” Zhang told Time in August


“It was really important to identify the pathogen and publish it,” says Cowling. “Within a few days of the sequence being published, many laboratories (including the lab here at Hong Kong University) were able to make diagnostic PCR kits for the new virus and start testing people.”

This all happened in early January, Warp Speed was initiated in mid May.

All Trump did was submit some future orders which, BTW, were not adequate to vaccinate the country. Joe got the vaccine for most Americans.
 
I think it very important to understand what is going on in the vaccine developments. Especially mRNA, the new tech.

If you want to convince the people on the fence you have to have the facts.

BioNtech and Moderna, built a artificial DNA. We all have seen the winded spokes design of DNA, this step ladder to heaven. They split it and out comes a specifically designed mRNA. The mRNA will be expeled by your body within 48 hours and just leaves its memory in your T and B and your antibody system behind.
No DNA manipulation or what so ever, just Nano Chips, just for laughter.
The next candidate for approval is Curevac. Interesting little company. They had a vaccine in late March and than decided with their investors, to go the next step in development. A 40F mRNA, 4 to 5 C, storage temp. It will probably be improved by June.
What else is special about the vaccine ?
It uses a natural DNA, which than gets taught what it needs to know about c19 and than gets split into mRNA.
The most interesting thing behind all of it, is the technology. You need so called bioreactors to produce the mRNA, world wide, even in third world countries.
Teslar bought years ago a company which produces robots to manufacture cars. There was a small subdivision, which built bioreactors for curevac and it was nearly closed. Now this little subdivision has become a focal point, even for Musk, because it produces stand alone bioreactors, which could be used anywere in the world to produce a mRNA vaccine. You got power, is all it is needed, the rest can be shipped in.
Fascinating stuff.
 
“It took us less than 40 hours [to map the genome], so very, very fast,” Zhang told Time in August


“It was really important to identify the pathogen and publish it,” says Cowling. “Within a few days of the sequence being published, many laboratories (including the lab here at Hong Kong University) were able to make diagnostic PCR kits for the new virus and start testing people.”

This all happened in early January, Warp Speed was initiated in mid May.

All Trump did was submit some future orders which, BTW, were not adequate to vaccinate the country. Joe got the vaccine for most Americans.

But yes. But than they had to figure out were the weak spot is, the spike proteins and how to eliminate them, effectively.
There is a nother weak spot in the Zars virus family, its a enzyme which is common with them. You take that enzyme out, you have a rather effective treatment.

Discovered 3 month ago.

The Idiot had nothing to do with vaccine development, neither his warp speed
 
Today I went to Meijer to do some grocery shopping and they had a sign up advertising the Janson vaccine at the pharmacy, no appointment, so I got it.

Congratulations.
 
Got my 2nd does of the Pfizer on Wednesday and they tried to give me a sticker, like I'm a 6 year old...really? :p

I took one and put it on my purse, but it kept falling off. People were very excited about getting the vaccine where I was and were posing for photos in front of a large painting that was set up for that purpose. It had some upbeat, pro-vaccine slogan on it. :)
 
Got my 2nd does of the Pfizer on Wednesday and they tried to give me a sticker, like I'm a 6 year old...really? :p

I know, right. People are all different. I think most folks like that kind of thing.
I had 6 months of cancer treatment. They keep a bell in all cancer hospitals for folks to ring when they finish treatment. Then everyone in the wing starts applauding.
I respectfully declined to ring the stupid bell. :)
 
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I know, right. People are all different. I think most folks like that kind of this.
I had 6 months of cancer treatment. They keep a bell in all cancer hospitals for folks to ring when they finish treatment. Then everyone in the wing starts applauding.
I respectfully declined to ring the stupid bell. :)
That is quite an accomplishment in itself...I hope you remain cancer free for a long, long time...
 
I had my second shot of pfitzer this last mondy. Slight fever that evening,but ok the next morning
 
I had my second shot of pfitzer this last mondy. Slight fever that evening,but ok the next morning

I am glad you have finished the vaccinations. Congratulations.
 
Can I just rant my frustration here about the people in my life that haven't gotten one yet and are bitching they can't find an appointment (any age can get it here now) then when I walk them to the county healthcare website that shows a ton of appointments and clinics available, even today, they still say okay well I'll just make the appointment later.

And I bet they still don't make it - AARGH!!!!
Our state, AZ, just said it has way more vaccine than people wanting it. I think almost half, 40%, are refusing it here. I feel for our hospital staff. :(
I think some people are just afraid which is understandable but we have a lot of people who are political warriors and I think it's a sad day when a political view will prevent you from doing the healthiest thing for you and your family.
 
Got my 2nd does of the Pfizer on Wednesday and they tried to give me a sticker, like I'm a 6 year old...really? :p

Hey -- I liked the sticker. :)
 
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