What is the right afraid of? People loving the ACA.

[OscarB63]

James, I wanted to let you know that earlier today I received my "Obamacare enrollment packet” from the White House. it is totally awesome

It contained:



Everything was made in "China" and all directions were in Spanish.

post of the day.....

 

[GottaGo]

Yet the same polls show strong support for many of the important features of the ACA. The mandate is not popular unless you mention that without it we cannot eliminate pre-existing conditions. Some people still believe this is a Govt. takeover of the entire healthcare system when in fact it is mostly still private insurers that will administrate it. There are so many misconceptions that it is pointless to harp on polls taken before it has even gone into effect. Romney campaigned on repealing the ACA and lost. Who was it that said that the ONLY polls that count are taken on election day?

False. (bolded part)

One simple law could have addressed the PE situation. Instead, a couple thousand pages of garbage and American freedoms were torn away....

 

[AngryOldGuy]

The ACA was purposefully designed to fail, that's the only way to get to 'single payer'
aka socialized medicine, its closer than you think but then again so is sovereign default.

 

[iguanaman]

For the life of me I don't know why Republicans don't do just that. It ought to be a great deal for them going into 2016. Medical insurance premiums are increasing by 200 to 300% in Kentucky and Tennessee. Wait till people find out what they have to pay for deductables, for co-pay and so on. It will be mass insurrection.

Democrats won't be able to elect so much as a dog catcher.

Apparently they know something you don't. That the HC system under ACA will turn out to be BETTER for most people than the current broken one. It's not perfect but "better than now" sets a very low bar. Most of the people that "like what they have" have not had a serious illness, but we all get sick eventually.

 

[Hiram]

Obama is a Modern day spread the wealth and be in charge as the King kinda guy. Michelle likes being the Queen with all 22 of here personal assistants at her beckon call. Obama's main problem other than being a socialist? Narcissism!

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

False. (bolded part)

One simple law could have addressed the PE situation. Instead, a couple thousand pages of garbage and American freedoms were torn away....

you may have passed legislation, but that doesn't mean the model would be sustainable. For the ACA to work, the individual mandate is very much essential. Without it, people could simply sign up for insurance when they become ill with a serious condition, which would drive premiums through the roof

 

[GottaGo]

you may have passed legislation, but that doesn't mean the model would be sustainable. For the ACA to work, the individual mandate is very much essential. Without it, people could simply sign up for insurance when they become ill with a serious condition, which would drive premiums through the roof

And they haven't already gone up?

Besides that, I've stated my position many times, that those newly signing in with a PE should be paying higher premiums to help defray those expenses. The 'everybody pays the same premium' was a crock anyway from the get go.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

And they haven't already gone up?

they may have gone up, but without the mandate, that impact would have been far greater (hence the use of "sustainable"). Think about it for a minute, how insurence pooling works, and how people simply signing up for long term, high costs treatment, like cancer, would impact that model.

Besides that, I've stated my position many times, that those newly signing in with a PE should be paying higher premiums to help defray those expenses. The 'everybody pays the same premium' was a crock anyway from the get go.

PE?

 

[GottaGo]

they may have gone up, but without the mandate, that impact would have been far greater (hence the use of "sustainable"). Think about it for a minute, how insurence pooling works, and how people simply signing up for long term, high costs treatment, like cancer, would impact that model.

PE?

Considering the volume of people signing up, it's not going to be sustainable anyway.

PE= Pre existing.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

Considering the volume of people signing up, it's not going to be sustainable anyway.

PE= Pre existing.

Yes, I have talked about the issues with the exchanges in Mass many times on here. But the degree of magnitude and it's over all effect are totally different

 

[LowDown]

Apparently they know something you don't. That the HC system under ACA will turn out to be BETTER for most people than the current broken one. It's not perfect but "better than now" sets a very low bar. Most of the people that "like what they have" have not had a serious illness, but we all get sick eventually.

I'm not sure how having to pay higher premiums, higher deductibles, having less choice in doctors and hospitals, and having less choice in the pharmacy equates to "better than now." I can see how people will appreciate not being denied for pre-existing conditions, but that's got to be a fairly small minority of people. And, as the President has implied, if it's a small minority, like people who have to get individual insurance and lost their policies, then they really don't count.

The creators of the ACA assumed that the uninsured would do the sensible thing and get insured once it became available. However, that's not happening, and polls indicate that only about 22% of uninsured intend to get insurance.

And why should healthy young people pay for insurance now? They can always get it in the unlikely occasion that they need it, according to the law. In the meantime all they will have is the resentment at having to pay the fine.

At this point we've really got no choice except to get the ACA working somehow. We can't go back to the previous system; it has already been destroyed for all intents and purposes. That's all the more reason to rebuke and proscribe the people whose incompetence has gotten us into this mess.

 

[cpwill]

If the conservatives where so sure the ACA was bunk then why not wait and let it fail on its own and say "we told you so."?

Hey James;



We told you so.


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