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What is the greatest Rock n Roll song of all time?

Is there a difference between rock and rock n roll ?
 
Today it's Warpigs.

The live version in France 1970. Performed before the album even came out.
 
Real blank said:
Is there a difference between rock and rock n roll ?
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Rock & Roll was recorded live in the studio, full band, no overdubs, multitracking, click tracks, stacking vocals etc. Echo was often drums miced in a bathroom. Rock basically came about after the studio became as important as the musicians, using technology as an instriment. Of course there are still bands & musicians doing the annologe, old school, but increasingly rare. The Beatles are prob'ly the deviding line between R & R , & Rock. 😇
 
jpevans said:
Rock & Roll was recorded live in the studio, full band, no overdubs, multitracking, click tracks, stacking vocals etc. Echo was often drums miced in a bathroom. Rock basically came about after the studio became as important as the musicians, using technology as an instriment. Of course there are still bands & musicians doing the annologe, old school, but increasingly rare. The Beatles are prob'ly the deviding line between R & R , & Rock. 😇
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Good argument.
 
jpevans said:
Good song. I'm sure there are others who share your opinion. There is no wrong answer. 🤠 :cool:
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It was just a "for fun" thread, but I find that it's had to find many songs that tick off as many boxes as Whole Lotta Love. It also has the added quality of being a half-cover, change-up of an older blues song, by Muddy Waters, which gives it that "heart of rock n roll" blues base, which they cranked up and made rock. I argue for Whole Lotta Love because of each box that it ticks beyond that, too - the driving beat, the over-the-top drums, the absolutely killer riff (I mean, once you've heard it you know in 1/2 of that riff what song it is - some folks can probably name that tune in one note, lol). The subject matter - totally rock - no ****ing around - you need coolin' - baby I'm not foolin' - I'm gonna send ya, back to schoolin' - way down in side, honey you need it - .....

Obviously, everyone will have their view, but "making the argument" in support of a totally subjective assertion, can be fun.

Some of the suggestions interested me - I like Born to Run, I like me some G n R.

I will say that the one that really got me thinking was Hurt - just because the Nine Inch Nails version is stacked, and is a clear rock classic, in a totally different style than Zeppelin. They knocked it out of the park with that song. And then we add to that the absolute masterpiece that is Johnny Cash in his 70s, singing it like a funeral dirge, but rocking out without even having to raise his voice.

So, I give props to those to suggested Hurt.

I saw somebody suggested the Who, Won't Get fooled Again - but I would say that as far as a rock or rock n roll song - I think their best is Baba O'Reilly.

As far as where I approach this topic, I can't help but find I gravitate to bands that were there in 1968 and 1969. Those years saw some of the best rock music of all time, in all manner, and some of the most inventive rock music - never to be repeated - you had my favorite, Zep, of course, but we had the Stones and the Beatles then, we had the Doors, we had Jefferson Airplane led by Grace Slick, we had the Who, Hendrix, Janis Joplin with Big Brother and the Holding Company, Crosby Stills Nash, etc., we had Buffalo Springfield, Joe Cocker, shit - Neil Diamond - man the Bee Gees were even back then (and you might be surprised given this thread that I would rank them in that mix I just named).... then there's Creedence, and King Crimson, David Bowie - Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown, Gladys Knight, Ike and Tina, and everybody from Mo-Town Records..... these young folks, man, they don't know good music.... :)
 
jpevans said:
Rock & Roll was recorded live in the studio, full band, no overdubs, multitracking, click tracks, stacking vocals etc. Echo was often drums miced in a bathroom. Rock basically came about after the studio became as important as the musicians, using technology as an instriment. Of course there are still bands & musicians doing the annologe, old school, but increasingly rare. The Beatles are prob'ly the deviding line between R & R , & Rock. 😇
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I get it - Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Rock N Roll --
Steppenwolf -- Rock...

LOL.
 
jpevans said:
So IMO & despite Niceguy's arbitrary winner that nonya nominated, only one song & artist had multiple (not likes) nominations. Making Johnny B. Goode the actual peoples choice winner. Hard to Imagine a controversy in a MrNiceGut thread? 😀😃😄😁😆
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I don't find that suggestion to be out of bounds.

I mean, it ticks of a ton of boxes, too - the guitar hook and riff. The beat. And the originality. It's almost the classicest song. It is almost the epitome of the origin of rock n roll.

So, I get why it was nominated.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
Ok, I tried to sift through what were "discussions" and just multiple suggestions of good songs vs. actually commitments. Here is the final list, as I see it. If anyone wants to let me know if they have a final entrant, or if I missed any entrants.



Hotel California - Eagles

So What - Anti-Nowhere League

Sound of Silence - Simon and Garfunkle

Thunderstruck - ACDC (The Steve N Seagulls version is disqualified as Bluegrass, not Rock n Roll, but it is awesome so it deserves a mention)

Goin Down - Jeff Beck

Monster - Steppenwolf

Johnny B. Goode - Chuck Berry

Twilight Zone - Golden Earring

Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who

Whiter Shade of Pale - Procol Harem

Hey Jude - Beatles

Cream - Crossroads

Seven Nations - White Stripes

Playground In My Mind - Clint Holmes

Can't Find My Way Home - Blind Faith

Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd

I Can't Get No Satisfacaton - The Stones

Wild Horses - The Stones

Louie Louie - The Kingsmen

Hurt - Nine Inch Nails/JR Cash

Aqualung - Jegthro Tull

Waterloo - Abba

Sweet Child O Mine - G n R

Welcome to the Jungle - G n R

Born to Run - Bruce

Child in Time - Deep Purple

Layla - Eric Clapton


These are not in any order of preference - they've just been added as I encountered them. Do not presume any preference or ranking based on where they appear above.

That seems to be the list. Others were named, but as I read the posts they were listed as options among several, or as discussion points regarding other good songs, etc. If I left anyone out, let me know.

The Brass Figlagee with Bronze Oak Leaf Clusters is being polished as we speak. We have already received some inquiry as to when the Greatest Rock N Roll Song of All Time will be revealed. I will expect those who will have to accept that their song is not the greatest of all time will have some resentment over the fact that they are wrong; however, all participants are requested to remain calm and refrain from rioting, acts of civil disobedience, or retribution/vengeance as a result of their inability to recognize true greatness.
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I would substitute “Born in the USA” for “Born to Run.”
 
RF667799 said:
Ballads? I'm not sure they fit. Like "Dead Flowers" is a favorite Stones song but I would say it's Country...or at least their version of Country.
So I say, "Rosalita".
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No real argument from me, but someone nominated Simon and Garfunkel's Sound of Silence, so.... I think that Rubicon was crossed a long time ago. LOL
 
MrNiceGuy said:
I forgot about Motorhead - classic.

I see you Motorhead and raise you --

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I heard Lemmy (Motorhead's singer) in an interview talk about his friendship with Joey Ramone, and how much he loved their thing.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
Well, those are not offered as correct answers by me - they were offered as claims to the "Greatest Rock n Roll song of all time" by the people who apparently think they're the greatest songs.

Nothing is stopping anyone from suggesting what they think is the best rock n roll song, by whatever definition they themselves attribute to the question.

I don't recall if you put one forth. If not, I'm about to provide the correct answer, so make it quick.
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I am not taking issue with you at all! I enjoy the subject. Just some of my observations which are subject as all art is subjective. What is a bit more black and white is what each genre is. But even that is grey.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
Well, you've waited this long, and here it is - the Greatest Rock and Rock n Roll song AND Greatest Rock song (distinction for @noonereal) :)

The reasons, before you look -

1. A deep blues base - extremely catchy with a driving beat
2. The coolest guitar riff https://metalinjection.net/news/led-zeppelin-whole-lotta-love-named-the-greatest-riff-of-all-time
3. The subject matter - over the top sexual inyurendo ...
4. Classic song structure
5. The pounding drums, and Jimmy Page guitar licks
6. Robert plant's Rock vocals and live presentation are at the top.
7. Lacking in any serious topic, no lecturing, no pomposity, no conceit - just sex, drugs and rock n roll.
8. Inventive for its time - released in 1969, it blew the doors off the music world at the time.




So, none of you got it. Better luck next time. It's ok to be wrong.

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Your, "The Winner Is," is very very close. About the best answer submitted in this thread so far. ;)
 
MrNiceGuy said:
I already know the answer, and anyone who gets the correct answer will win the brass figlagee with bronze oak leaf palm.

Be careful in your answers, as this does not relate to any genre other than Rock n Roll. There may be some grey area there, but certainly we are not talking about Country, Bluegrass, Classical, Rap, or the like, but you are free to answer with whatever you personally think is the greatest Rock n Roll song of all time.

There is no poll on this, as I do not want to bias the answers by giving a list. It's an open ended question.

Also - only one answer per person, please. You are disqualified from the brass figlagee award if you suggest that you can't pick only one, or if you list multiple options.

So - anyone interested - go for it.
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Live Forever by Oasis
 
MrNiceGuy said:
As far as where I approach this topic, I can't help but find I gravitate to bands that were there in 1968 and 1969. Those years saw some of the best rock music of all time, in all manner, and some of the most inventive rock music - never to be repeated - you had my favorite, Zep, of course, but we had the Stones and the Beatles then, we had the Doors, we had Jefferson Airplane led by Grace Slick, we had the Who, Hendrix, Janis Joplin with Big Brother and the Holding Company, Crosby Stills Nash, etc., we had Buffalo Springfield, Joe Cocker, shit - Neil Diamond - man the Bee Gees were even back then (and you might be surprised given this thread that I would rank them in that mix I just named).... then there's Creedence, and King Crimson, David Bowie - Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown, Gladys Knight, Ike and Tina, and everybody from Mo-Town Records..... these young folks, man, they don't know good music....
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I have seen this same case made for the music of the 80's. I would submit that the 90's stands just as tall. The truth is, the music means more to us when we are young and it's both socially and personally identifiable.
I never got stuck in a musical era. I refused to although I admit I spent a majorly disproportionate amount of time in the 1967 to 1975 time frame.
Around 2000 I realized I was lost. I could no longer identify with new pop/rock music. Indie music is all about the broken heart of a 30 something living in his parents basement. Sorry, not for me as I was well beyond that. Then I had the problem of, "how many more times can I listen to Stairway to Heaven?"

so it was during this period I turned to other genes

Getting back to your post, I say the 90's was every bit as good as the late 60, early 70s.
 
How did this one escape mention?

 
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