128shot said:you haven't heard that income tax is illegal ?
128shot said:the 16th ammendment was not ratified by congress, and the 16th ammendment is what allows for income tax to happen..
128shot said:My anti-taxation got the better of me.
you're right, but I'm still against income tax.....
128shot said:Agreed. I'd be all for the flat taxation....
I think there is enough evidence that this would work.
128shot said:What about the idea of lock bracketed flat tax?
I know technically this isn't "flat tax", but its a much better idea..
Aren't individual today 'reliant' on businesses to support them? Personally, I'd much rather be 'supported' by an organization over which I have considerable power: a democratically elected government.TJS0110 said:Ok yes your right, however wouldn't this entire system make people to reliant on the government to support them with a living wage? What i mean is that people have to feel like they have a stake in society if you just give them there job and wage they don't make there way in society. Also, what i meant by people would mess it up is that we would be entering a socialist system with so many x factors that it would be very dangerous. We have lived in this system fir what like 60-100 yrs(i mean the way the system works not the time of America conceptionWe have been able to learn about our system. If we entered the socialist system we would probably find some serious loop holes(like in our tax system). Thats all i meant.
Where did I say you are 'punished' for your ambition? There is certainly a graduated tax system, yes, but a rich man will still rake in considerably more than a poor man. The fact that your taxes will be higher does nothing to lower your social status. Those with higher skills will morel ikely make it to the top with the abolishment of inheritance, so I'd say that you are rewarded for ambition, and it's easier to be rewarded. I'm fighting capitalism, certainly even a libertarian should see this!128shot said:So, I'm punished under socialism for my ambition,
and under Capitalism, I get some type of reward for bringing my ambition to light.
What are you fighting here? corruption or capitalism?
Originally Posted by Kelzie
I realize you weren't saying that. But a lot of people think that welfare is corrupt and taking care of a bunch of lazy people, and I have never seen any numbers that support it.
jamesrage said:You must have never meet anyone on welfare before.
Kelzie said:Food stamps FED me and my family when I was a kid, and it is really disturbing to me that some people think that we didn't deserve to eat. And it wasn't easy for my mom to get them either. She had to check in once a month, so they could make sure she was still going to school. It is NOT that easy to mooch off of welfare.
ncallaway said:I need ten characters (outside of quotes) to post this message. But I didn't need them. The quotes speak for themselves.
Originally Posted by Kelzie
Hmm. Thanks. Was going to post it myself but you did it for me.
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