What is Obama hiding?

[Bobcat]

Obama has paid lawyers to keep his college records from Harvard, Columbia, and Occidental sealed from public view. What is in them that is worth a million dollars in legal fees to keep us from seeing them? Must be something really bad (to quote a poster discussing Romney's taxes).

Did obama get scholarships or loans reserved for foreign students? did he register as a muslim? did he fail his classes and get an affirmative action degree? is his thesis about a radical movement in the USA?

Now, I am not saying any of those things is true. But what is the hidden truth?

 

[zgoldsmith23]

Obama has paid lawyers to keep his college records from Harvard, Columbia, and Occidental sealed from public view. What is in them that is worth a million dollars in legal fees to keep us from seeing them? Must be something really bad (to quote a poster discussing Romney's taxes).

Did obama get scholarships or loans reserved for foreign students? did he register as a muslim? did he fail his classes and get an affirmative action degree? is his thesis about a radical movement in the USA?

Now, I am not saying any of those things is true. But what is the hidden truth?

"I'm not saying he maybe did something underhanded and shady, but he did something underhanded and shady" - basically what your post amounts to.

It could be it's none of anyone's business. How about you substantiate every one of your claims in here:

1. He has paid lawyers to keep his college records from Harvard, Columbia, and Occidental sealed from public view.
2. Must be something bad.
3. Why do you think he received scholarships reserved for foreign students?
4. Why would he register as a Muslim?
5. Why do you think he failed classes?
6. What makes you think he has an AA degree?
7. Why do you think his thesis is about a radical movement in the USA?

I'll be waiting for these citations. I doubt they'll happen, though. This will undoubtedly resort to "Hussein Obama the Marxist collectivist."

 

[Jetboogieman]

I hate doing homework for people.

The idea that any Obama record is “sealed” is a falsehood, to start. The word “sealed” when applied to documents ordinarily refers to records that would normally be public, but that a judge has ruled cannot be released without the court’s permission. Common examples of truly “sealed” documents include records of crimes committed as a juvenile or records of adoptions. None of the claims in this message refers to records actually “sealed” in that usual sense.

FactCheck.org : Obama’s ‘Sealed’ Records

Many of your claims are addressed in this article.

 

[Bobcat]

I hate doing homework for people.

The idea that any Obama record is “sealed” is a falsehood, to start. The word “sealed” when applied to documents ordinarily refers to records that would normally be public, but that a judge has ruled cannot be released without the court’s permission. Common examples of truly “sealed” documents include records of crimes committed as a juvenile or records of adoptions. None of the claims in this message refers to records actually “sealed” in that usual sense.

FactCheck.org : Obama’s ‘Sealed’ Records

Many of your claims are addressed in this article.

please post his college records and the issue will be closed.

 

[Jetboogieman]

please post his college records and the issue will be closed.

No president has ever released those records.

Bushs got leaked illegally and that was wrong.

This issue is closed.

 

[Bobcat]

please post his college records and the issue will be closed.

I agree with your cite that "sealed" is the wrong word.

 

[Blue_State]

Post Romney's last 10 years of tax returns. I get what you are doing, but this is the same thing. Anything but what counts.

 

[Arbo]

It seems funny that so many assume Romney has done something wrong because he won't release information, but it's ok if their guy doesn't.

It is all moot anyhow.

But it is interesting that a guy raised by a single mother, who was not wealthy, got to go to some big and expensive schools. Was it grants? Loans?

 

[Bobcat]

No president has ever released those records.

Bushs got leaked illegally and that was wrong.

This issue is closed.

Then the Romney tax return issue is also closed for the same reasons. No ones business, private information. or is there a double standard that you would like to cite?

 

[Bobcat]

Post Romney's last 10 years of tax returns. I get what you are doing, but this is the same thing. Anything but what counts.

OK, then lets forget the BS and allow the campaigns to focus on what has been done the last four years and what each plans for the next four. OK?

 

[TheNextEra]

please post his college records and the issue will be closed.

So let's get this straight. You think it's stupid that the Dems are demanding Romney release all his tac records yet you are demanding that Obama release his college transcripts?

Frankly all of this with the college transcripts, birth certificate, and tax records distract from the real problem and that is America is being ****ed by both Dems and Reps, yet both sides just continue to suck the Koolaid.

 

[zgoldsmith23]

It seems funny that so many assume Romney has done something wrong because he won't release information, but it's ok if their guy doesn't.

What do you call the OP? Both sides are guilty of it. Deal with it.

 

[VanceMack]

Obama has paid lawyers to keep his college records from Harvard, Columbia, and Occidental sealed from public view. What is in them that is worth a million dollars in legal fees to keep us from seeing them? Must be something really bad (to quote a poster discussing Romney's taxes).

Did obama get scholarships or loans reserved for foreign students? did he register as a muslim? did he fail his classes and get an affirmative action degree? is his thesis about a radical movement in the USA?

Now, I am not saying any of those things is true. But what is the hidden truth?

Why are you worried about ANY of this crap? Why arent you far more concerned about unemployment, spending, accumulation of debt, foreign policy, a congress that cant balance a checkbook, etc etc etc? This kind of **** is as foolish as the continued attacks on Romney.

We get the government we deserve.

 

[Redress]

Why are you worried about ANY of this crap? Why arent you far more concerned about unemployment, spending, accumulation of debt, foreign policy, a congress that cant balance a checkbook, etc etc etc? This kind of **** is as foolish as the continued attacks on Romney.

We get the government we deserve.

Knock this off VM. Let him play into our hands.

Please.

Pretty please.

Seriously, calling for the tax records of Romney is low class but effective politics. It keeps the focus on Romney. Going further and claiming Romney did not pay taxes is extremely low and might backfire, but still probably not harmful for the Obama campaign.

This crap is low class politics and helps Obama since it keeps the focus off anything that might harm Obama, and might backfire. It does not help Romney gain any of the ground he has to in order to win.

So let those who want to make a big deal over this keep making a big deal over this please. It helps my side.

 

[Bobcat]

Why are you worried about ANY of this crap? Why arent you far more concerned about unemployment, spending, accumulation of debt, foreign policy, a congress that cant balance a checkbook, etc etc etc? This kind of **** is as foolish as the continued attacks on Romney.

We get the government we deserve.

Because Obama's ideology has caused many of the problems we are dealing with and another term will push us over the cliff into european socialism---which is failing as we speak. A person's background tells us who he really is, it amazes me that none of you on the left care about obama's unknown past.

 

[Bobcat]

Knock this off VM. Let him play into our hands.

Please.

Pretty please.

Seriously, calling for the tax records of Romney is low class but effective politics. It keeps the focus on Romney. Going further and claiming Romney did not pay taxes is extremely low and might backfire, but still probably not harmful for the Obama campaign.

This crap is low class politics and helps Obama since it keeps the focus off anything that might harm Obama, and might backfire. It does not help Romney gain any of the ground he has to in order to win.

So let those who want to make a big deal over this keep making a big deal over this please. It helps my side.

translation----lets continue the corrupt chicago politics because thats the only way democrats can win.

 

[Redress]

translation----lets continue the corrupt chicago politics because thats the only way democrats can win.

Well, that has nothing whatsoever to do with what I said. Nicely done. Reject reality and substitute your own.

 

[zgoldsmith23]

Well, that has nothing whatsoever to do with what I said. Nicely done. Reject reality and substitute your own.

 

[VanceMack]

Knock this off VM. Let him play into our hands.

Please.

Pretty please.

Seriously, calling for the tax records of Romney is low class but effective politics. It keeps the focus on Romney. Going further and claiming Romney did not pay taxes is extremely low and might backfire, but still probably not harmful for the Obama campaign.

This crap is low class politics and helps Obama since it keeps the focus off anything that might harm Obama, and might backfire. It does not help Romney gain any of the ground he has to in order to win.

So let those who want to make a big deal over this keep making a big deal over this please. It helps my side.

I just did a quick glance. of the 23 active threads on this site 1 had ANYTHING to do with the state of the country...the Middle Class Tax cuts. Sheesh...

 

[Carleen]

please post his college records and the issue will be closed.

To compare a college transcript to tax returns is like apples to oranges. If Romney gave 23 years of returns to McCain why not now?

 

[VanceMack]

Because Obama's ideology has caused many of the problems we are dealing with and another term will push us over the cliff into european socialism---which is failing as we speak. A person's background tells us who he really is, it amazes me that none of you on the left care about obama's unknown past.

Not the first time "one of you on the right" has called me "one of those on the left". Makes me laugh every time.

If you are TRULY concerned about the country and its leaders, your efforts might be better served examining the actual problems we are facing, examining actual records, examining actual plans to help solve some of those problems, and bang that drum as loudly as you can. I dont think I can check in my storage boxes and find enough material to give too much of a **** about Obamas school records, or Romneys teenaged pranks. I DO care that we have an actual unemployment of 14%. I care that we continue to heap mountains of debt on our great grandchildren. I care that congress (both parties) is so inept that they cant even agree to basic deficit cuts over 10 years. I care that states are facing bankruptcy and that our schools suck. I care that the housing crisis is just simmering and there have never been any real attempts to fix it, only temporarily prop it up. I care that the hate rhetoric continues to get amped up. I marvel that people are so vapid that we not only have a long running thread about Martin and Zimmerman but hell we had to dedicate an entire THREAD to it.

Sorry...got on a rant there. I'll go join my fellow liberals. Maybe we can make some national headlines about Romney tipping a waitress 7% 20 years ago, and you can dig up some **** on a young Barry Sotero smoking weed behind the shop class.

 

[washunut]

Knock this off VM. Let him play into our hands.

Please.

Pretty please.

Seriously, calling for the tax records of Romney is low class but effective politics. It keeps the focus on Romney. Going further and claiming Romney did not pay taxes is extremely low and might backfire, but still probably not harmful for the Obama campaign.

This crap is low class politics and helps Obama since it keeps the focus off anything that might harm Obama, and might backfire. It does not help Romney gain any of the ground he has to in order to win.

So let those who want to make a big deal over this keep making a big deal over this please. It helps my side.

Wonder who it helps Obama with. Yes his core supporters like the trash, but you wonder when something like the Reid comments get so far over the line that the people who count, which are only undecided in swing states feel this is just to sleezy. All Obama has to run on is that people like him, if he loses that charm effect due to the Reids of the world he may lose some luster. Perhaps not, he pays people a lot of money to figure this out, including his chief political advisor who it was disclosed today was paid a $100K speakers fee from a company affiliated with Iran.

 

[Redress]

Wonder who it helps Obama with. Yes his core supporters like the trash, but you wonder when something like the Reid comments get so far over the line that the people who count, which are only undecided in swing states feel this is just to sleezy. All Obama has to run on is that people like him, if he loses that charm effect due to the Reids of the world he may lose some luster. Perhaps not, he pays people a lot of money to figure this out, including his chief political advisor who it was disclosed today was paid a $100K speakers fee from a company affiliated with Iran.

OK, right now Romney is behind Obama in every way that matters. Obama is the clear favorite to win in November. WHen the discussion is on Romney, he is not gaining ground on Obama. This is what we call "strategy". It is not a discussion of right nor wrong, but of what it takes to win. When the discussion is on Romney, he is not going to gain the ground he needs to gain in order to win. Obama will probably not gain many votes from this, but niether does Romney, and that plays into Obama's hand.

 

[washunut]

OK, right now Romney is behind Obama in every way that matters. Obama is the clear favorite to win in November. WHen the discussion is on Romney, he is not gaining ground on Obama. This is what we call "strategy". It is not a discussion of right nor wrong, but of what it takes to win. When the discussion is on Romney, he is not going to gain the ground he needs to gain in order to win. Obama will probably not gain many votes from this, but niether does Romney, and that plays into Obama's hand.

I would call what you said "tactical" versus strategic. Strategic would be the best road to victory in November while tactical is what you are doing to win polls in August. It may turn out to be the same, time will tell. Most people say the real campaign starts with the convention and then after labor day. I agree that Obama's team has done a better job of framing Romney than Romney has done framing himself. Romney would have been off in my view if he took out positive adds explaining his life and what he would do versus the constant attack ads. Then again, I do not get paid the bucks those consultants do so we will see. Right now Romney looks like a poor man's McCain, which is not very good. His only good news is that he is not running against the Obama of 2008.

 

[Bobcat]

OK, right now Romney is behind Obama in every way that matters. Obama is the clear favorite to win in November. WHen the discussion is on Romney, he is not gaining ground on Obama. This is what we call "strategy". It is not a discussion of right nor wrong, but of what it takes to win. When the discussion is on Romney, he is not going to gain the ground he needs to gain in order to win. Obama will probably not gain many votes from this, but niether does Romney, and that plays into Obama's hand.

your partican hopefullness is noted. we get it, you love obama. you love socialism, you love high unemployment and huge deficits, you love putting the country further into debt. we get it.