Navy Pride
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Your comments please........
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Navy Pride said:Your comments please:
aps said:Navy Pride, where's the poll, you tease?
Okay, it showed up after your post. Hmmmm. I gave the same answer as you did. There are checks and balances for each branch of government. Bush has acted in ways that indicate he has no respect for either Congress or the Judiciary.
Navy Pride said:That may be but I have heard rumors and I can't prove this that the eavesdropping that has take place since 9/11/01 may have prevented more the one terrorist attack particulary the one by the guy who wanted to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge.....
aps said:I have no problem with them eavesdropping, as long as they follow proper procedure.
tecoyah said:Seconded.....I dont like living with a Government I cant trust.
Gilluin said:I will let Ben franklin speak
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
If you are willing to live in a police state more power to you but I would rather die a free man with my privacy and civil liberties intact then be a scared little conservate wimp, control freak, who give up their rights like good little sheep to the slaughter.
aps said:I have no problem with them eavesdropping, as long as they follow proper procedure.
Frankly, yes. The Government totalitarianism is much more dangerous that terrorist attacks.Navy Pride said:So terrorist attacks on this country are fine with you as long as we maintain our civil liberties.......
steen said:Frankly, yes. The Government totalitarianism is much more dangerous that terrorist attacks.
I think I mentioned in another tread about my Dad's saying (He is a good liberal like me, BTW): "It is better to be a hungry wolf than a fat but chained dog."
Navy Pride said:What if they did not follow proper procedures and by doing so prevented a terrorist attack?
aps said:Navy Pride, there is a provision within the NISA that allows them to wiretap and then ask for a warrant within 72 hours. Tell me why this wasn't something they could follow. There is no excuse for their failure to obtain a warrant.
Navy Pride said:I don't know but if a wiretap without a judges permission saves millions of American lives I say go for it and worry about the details later........
Navy Pride said:So terrorists attacks are fine with you as long as we protect our civil liberties?
Gilluin said:Not what I am saying at all. If you are prepared to give up and civil liberties then the terrorists have won. I would rather be dead in a free country then live in a police state.
Really? Buch couldn't even mention ONE attack prevented by his Gestapo methods, and you have evidence of 20 attacks prevented? :roll: :roflNavy Pride said:Thank God Liberals like you are not in charge..We would have had about 20 more terrorists attacks on this country by now........
Your derisiveness of civil rights is duly noted.Navy Pride said:7-4 for Civil Rights....How fast are Liberal friends forget about 9/11/01.....I can bet you if God forbid we had another attack they would be the same ones saying that this administration did not do enough to protect us.....
Pathetic.......
steen said:Really? Buch couldn't even mention ONE attack prevented by his Gestapo methods, and you have evidence of 20 attacks prevented? :roll: :rofl
steen said:Your derisiveness of civil rights is duly noted.
Navy Pride said:Civil rights don't mean squat if your dead........Think about it.....
Columbusite said:So I guess we should have just let the British rule us. Better to live under an unjust monarchy than die for freedom. I guess these words by Partick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death" don't ring true, for you at least.
So you would rather live your life as the fat but always chained -up dog of my example. No way would I live like that, chained and controlled by the authorities; that seems more a conservative goal.Navy Pride said:Civil rights don't mean squat if your dead........Think about it.....