Maximus Zeebra said:People who use non facts and glorification of the US as arguments in a debateforum
Anti-American is the following:The list is a lot longer, but I'm getting tired.
- People that have a blind allegiance to the flag
- People that support legislation that compromises the Constitution.
- People that support un-provoked armed aggression.
- People that do not take the time to become well informed on the issues before they vote.
- People that want to build a wall across the border.
- People that want to combine Church and State.
- People that are intolerant to other nations and cultures
- People that say, "I'm a god-damn American!"
How about people make negative statements about the US even when the US has nothing to do with the thread?
http://www.debatepolitics.com/523451-post1.html
Hmmm...you again.
How about people who use non-facts to criticize the US in every single post they make in a debate forum? For example, you.
Anti-American is the following:
With accent on the word 'blind'. If you mean agreeing with America and American policies no matter what, then I agree with you completely.People that have a blind allegiance to the flag
The Constitution is a living, breathing entity (I'm a Benjamain Cardozzo fan). Supporting legislation that changes the Constitution is not anti-American. What do you mean by 'compromises'?People that support legislation that compromises the Constitution.
Define 'unprovoked'. Some preemptive 'strikes' to prevent aggression that puts the US national security at risk is not anti-American.People that support un-provoked armed aggression.
Completely agree.People that do not take the time to become well informed on the issues before they vote.
Disagree. Protecting one's territorial security is not anti-American.People that want to build a wall across the border.
Is there a stronger phrase than completely agree?People that want to combine Church and State.
Agree.People that are intolerant to other nations and cultures
Without anything behind it? Agree.People that say, "I'm a god-damn American!"
You clearly dont think its a fact that people die in Iraq every day because of the US invasion.
To you its not a fact that the US is aggressive in foreign policy and that their foreign aid contribution is low.
To you its not a fact that the US is widely disliked around the world.
To you its not a fact that the US have lost allies because of Iraq.
To you its not a fact that US have massive trade debt and trade deficits.
To you its not a fact that dollars are being replaced by Euroes every day.
Etc, etc etc... Those are facts, but I guess since they are no PRO-American facts, they are not facts in your mind.
Maximus Zeebra said:Show me one post that I critized the US in where I used an UNFACTUAL base for my assumption, and I will explain you why and the aspects of it that you dont understand, or I will admit in that case I did just critisize without reason and ask you to show me one more.
There was not negative statement about the US in that, just a question about when the EU pass US gdp growth..
You are a perfect example of the people who take anything as anti Americanism.
You clearly dont think its a fact that people die in Iraq every day because of the US invasion.
To you its not a fact that the US is aggressive in foreign policy and that their foreign aid contribution is low.
To you its not a fact that the US is widely disliked around the world.
To you its not a fact that the US have lost allies because of Iraq.
To you its not a fact that US have massive trade debt and trade deficits.
To you its not a fact that dollars are being replaced by Euroes every day.
Show me one post that I critized the US in where I used an UNFACTUAL base for my assumption, and I will explain you why and the aspects of it that you dont understand, or I will admit in that case I did just critisize without reason and ask you to show me one more.
To you its not a fact that the US is aggressive in foreign policy and that their foreign aid contribution is low.
Actual dollar contributions reveal that the U.S. is the world’s largest donor. The OECD calculates U.S. development assistance (based on bilateral assistance, humanitarian assistance, and contributions to multilateral institutions like the International Development Association of the World Bank) in 2003 at $16.2 billion—more than double the amount given by France, Germany, or any other European nation.[2] Japan is second at $8.9 billion.
Private aid is ignored. These numbers do not include private assistance. This is not a major factor for most other nations because private charity is not large in most countries. It is a gigantic oversight when calculating America’s aid ratio, however, because the U.S. Agency for International Development estimated that private assistance was $33.6 billion in 2000.[3] Therefore, the calculations upon which Egelund based his criticism severely shortchange the generosity of the United States.
You clearly dont think its a fact that people die in Iraq every day because of the US invasion.
To you its not a fact that the US is aggressive in foreign policy and that their foreign aid contribution is low.
To you its not a fact that the US is widely disliked around the world.
To you its not a fact that the US have lost allies because of Iraq.
To you its not a fact that US have massive trade debt and trade deficits.
To you its not a fact that dollars are being replaced by Euroes every day.
Etc, etc etc... Those are facts, but I guess since they are no PRO-American facts, they are not facts in your mind.
*Edit* Correction. I read one of your points too quickly. I disagree with the US aid contribution being low. Hatuey us right. This has been debunked in many threads
Actually I agree with all of those things, dingleberry. But unlike you, I don't have a vendetta against the United States.
OK. Look no further than your moronic and infantile signature. Or how about the image you submitted of the US flag with swastikas in place of the stars.
Your statement in the post brought up the US, professing the upcoming advancements of the EU over the US. The article that you posted did not mention the US at all. Your comment was an obvious, yet subtle attempt to get a 'shot' on America, which you do most of the time. I stand by my statement.
Please. You have no idea what you are talking about. I've posted with you many times and I think you know better. When you make intelligent, non aggressive or bashing posts, you receive responses similar. When you don't, I point it out, especially when you wonder why you receive negative comments. I have done this many times, and the frustrating part is you claim to not be anti-American, but you consistently initiate the bashing.
If your behavior wasn't as it is, you wouldn't get called out as much.
You show that you are an example of those overprotective and sensitive Americans. So what if I mentioned the US? Maybe I did it for comparison, ever though of that?
I am not bashing, but in your mind I probably am since you found that first thing you pointed out, the mare mention of the US as bashing and critisizm. I feel comfortable that I am right about this and you are oversensitive.
I have no vendetta, I just want the US to change.
If you have a child who is ****ing up in school, what do you do?
1. Say nothing
2. Talk positive about the child and mention non of the failures
3. Talk the truth and try to get him to change
???
Well maybe there is a reason people made a lot of US flags with swasticas, and have those on the intenet? Ever though of that?
I have no vendetta, I just want the US to change.
If you have a child who is ****ing up in school, what do you do?
1. Say nothing
2. Talk positive about the child and mention non of the failures
3. Talk the truth and try to get him to change
Not because the Sunnis and Shias are killing eachother?
Already debunked. Several times. U.S. foreign aid contribution dollar by dollar surpases that of any other country in the world. You really want me to put the links up again?
Must be why immigrants want to stay here and raise their children here. :roll:
Like who? France? Don't make me laugh. If I do. You guys might surrender. Again.
LOL. Yes and Euros are replaced with Yens and Yens with Jamaican dollars and Jamaican dollars with Rupies. Trade you know?
Thank goodness I dont have to work today.
No, it was the exposure of yet another link in your pattern. Perhaps it was a minor one, but it was part of the pattern, nonetheless. It was no isolated incident to become oversensitive about.
Again, it was just another example of a pattern of behavior that you have shown. When you post non-disengenuous information about America, I do not call you out on it...and you do at times. When the post is targetted, I will continue to point it out. I am comfortable that I am right about this and your comment was not made in good faith.
You want the U.S. to change? ROFL you mean negotiate with Bin Laden, Hezbollah and Hamas the way you've suggested so many times? Please don't make me laugh Daladier. Please point out how EU foreign aid is higher then American foreign aid so I can shoot that illusion down again. All you can do is complain because Europistan is full of ******s(starting with Tony Blair) who'd have rolled over to Al-Qaeda after 3-4 London-like bombings.
Morons who have been to the U.S. for 4-6 months and think that they're experts on this country.
Actually, no. Did they do that in such massive numbers BEFORE the US removed Saddam? Did 100ds of people die every day?
US foreign AID per capita is lower than all European countries.
That is state AID as % of government spending I am talking about yes.
And only that, if you want something else you better compare it to the same.
I dont want to hear your US private+ public AID, inside and outside the country VS the EU government foreign AID again. You can count much of the EU budget as foreign aid if you want as well, the insfrastructure budget, but its internal in the EU thus not foreign..
Then again you American are keen on bragging about your charity contribution, but that is not foreign AID, most of that is spent INSIDE the US.
And you didnt even care to compare it to a European equivilant.
US foreign AID is only 0.16% of GDP, while most Europeean nations are above 0.5% and many above 1%..
US foreign AID is low, its just no dispute.
That must be why immigrants want to do the same in Europe, all of it. That
must be the same reason immigrants in all nation wants to do that.
Like most of Europe, who dont agree with the US anymore and is less willing to go along with your bullshit. This is why Europe will ultimately replace the US, and have US be allied of Europe.
Laugh all you want, that doesnt change the fact that the Euro took dollar market share as world reserve currency and is still doing so. In every apsect of a currency the Euro is now bigger than the dollar, except as foreign reserve currency, but thats just a matter of time now.
Nice way of putting it "Actual dollar contributions reveal that the U.S. is the world’s largest donor. "
No one else donates in dollars.. Thats why.. The US can brag all they want, and redifine things to make it fit their own glorified picture of themself, but that doesnt make it true..
Ohh no, I also have to work today, actually, I am at work.
Its so black and white for you Americans innit? As soon as I mention change you assume the US sucking Bin ladens ****, and beg to the middle east for forgiveness and suck them all.
This is not what I mean, but instead of being a ****ing fool in foreign policy like the US is now, you can tone it down and do it in a different way.
Yeah ofcourse, I am God of the US, almitghty knower of the US, and its ONLY because I have been there 4-6 months. :2wave:
No, this is what's wrong with your whole attitude. America isn't a kid. We're not her mother. They are currently in a more powerful position than "Europe" on the world stage and they have been for 50 years. You delude yourself by trying to talk to down to them.
Currently Europe ain't really that good and most Europeans don't like it very much. Right now America isn't that great either and most Americans don't like it very much. I don't particularly like the US just now, but I don't treat her as some dumb little kid in need of my guidance. Americans know what's best for America and Europeans know what's best for Europe.
Your whole attitude just mirrors that of the American right who endlessly tell us how much **** Europe is. They piss me off and frankly so do you.
Are you saying you haven't suggested negotiating with terrorists? You have. On many occasions.
Sigh. "Peace in my lifetime" comes to mind. The Europeans once again choosing to bend over for the people who threaten to kill their children and women.
Must be because of the great view you get of the U.S. from...France?
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