What is Alt-Right?

[OpportunityCost]

Yes, my post was a big old lie. Trump really is a conservative! He really wants everyone to come live in peace and harmony! He isn't at all saying that outsiders are bad people, or the current lawmakers are bad people! That's what his positions are today, right? I always love the anticipation of hearing about what position Trump has on a given day. It's so exciting. I wonder what's going to happen next?

Emotional horse crap. Why don't you quit throwing a tantrum to deflect from your guilt by association politics?

 

[tres borrachos]

Emotional horse crap. Why don't you quit throwing a tantrum to deflect from your guilt by association politics?

"Guilt by association"?

I get it now. You're playing McCarthy. Paranoia is a bad thing.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Actually, I just did it, so no, it doesn't suck. I don't deal in McCarthyism. I'm not paranoid. That's what the Trump fans exhibit...not me.

That's exactly what you just did with the term "Trump fans", you are engaging in stereotypes to paint everyone the same by association. It is incredibly similar to the red scare. You need to see what you are actually doing.

 

[tres borrachos]

I don't know what is the most idiotic, the fact you think that the government is a well oiled machine or that if it were, it would be good for the populace.

My point, and you still haven't addressed it, is that guilt by association is a despicable practice. Why are you doing it?

Yes, Trump is despicable. No decent person would hire a bigot like Steve Bannon to be his campaign's CEO.

 

[Mycroft]

Yes, my post was a big old lie. Trump really is a conservative! He really wants everyone to come live in peace and harmony! He isn't at all saying that outsiders are bad people, or the current lawmakers are bad people! That's what his positions are today, right? I always love the anticipation of hearing about what position Trump has on a given day. It's so exciting. I wonder what's going to happen next?

There you go again...useless spin, lies and hyperbole.

Trump hasn't, to my knowledge, said he's a conservative. He HAS said he is a Republican. He hasn't, to my knowledge, said he want everyone to live in peace and harmony. He HAS said he wants to follow the rule of law. He hasn't said outsiders are bad people. He HAS said that there are some bad people out there. He hasn't said that current lawmakers are bad people. He HAS said that Hillary and Obama are bad people.

So no...your hyperbole is NOT what his positions are today.

Your attempts are continuing to suck.

 

[tres borrachos]

That's exactly what you just did with the term "Trump fans", you are engaging in stereotypes to paint everyone the same by association. It is incredibly similar to the red scare. You need to see what you are actually doing.

Trump fans make me shudder because you support someone who is obviously an ignorant, hateful, manipulative liar.

The only scare I ever see is the one that says "Watch out - Muslims want to come here to destroy you! They want to implement Sharia law!". I know what camp that message comes from. It isn't Gary Johnson's.

 

[tres borrachos]

There you go again...useless spin, lies and hyperbole.

Trump hasn't, to my knowledge, said he's a conservative. He HAS said he is a Republican. He hasn't, to my knowledge, said he want everyone to live in peace and harmony. He HAS said he wants to follow the rule of law. He hasn't said outsiders are bad people. He HAS said that there are some bad people out there. He hasn't said that current lawmakers are bad people. He HAS said that Hillary and Obama are bad people.

So no...your hyperbole is NOT what his positions are today.

Your attempts are continuing to suck.

Thanks for admitting you have no knowledge.

Donald Trump defends himself: I’m a conservative - POLITICO

Trump: ‘I Am a Conservative But I Get Along With People,’ Unlike Cruz | Mediaite

Don't worry. That's par for the course for you hardcore Trump supporters.

 

[Mycroft]

Yes, Trump is despicable. No decent person would hire a bigot like Steve Bannon to be his campaign's CEO.

Including Hillary, who has long hired a lady who supports her own mother's anti-American new srag...in fact, who was on the board of editors for that rag.

But hey...I'm not judging Hillary. Maybe she has her reasons. Maybe Huma is just a very capable person. Of course, maybe Trump feels the same about Bannon.

 

[Mycroft]

Thanks for admitting you have no knowledge.

Donald Trump defends himself: I’m a conservative - POLITICO

Trump: ‘I Am a Conservative But I Get Along With People,’ Unlike Cruz | Mediaite

Don't worry. That's par for the course for you hardcore Trump supporters.

Well. Then it's settle, isn't it? Trump IS a conservative. Are you complaining about that?

 

[tres borrachos]

Including Hillary, who has long hired a lady who supports her own mother's anti-American new srag...in fact, who was on the board of editors for that rag.

But hey...I'm not judging Hillary. Maybe she has her reasons. Maybe Huma is just a very capable person. Of course, maybe Trump feels the same about Bannon.

"HILLARY!"

(we ain't talking about her)

 

[tres borrachos]

Well. Then it's settle, isn't it? Trump IS a conservative. Are you complaining about that?

Yes, thanks for proving that you just blindly accept whatever Trump says. When he says the sun is going to rise in the west tomorrow, you'll believe that too.

No wonder he loves the less educated.

 

[Mycroft]

Trump fans make me shudder because you support someone who is obviously an ignorant, hateful, manipulative liar.

The only scare I ever see is the one that says "Watch out - Muslims want to come here to destroy you! They want to implement Sharia law!". I know what camp that message comes from. It isn't Gary Johnson's.

I think you have Trump supporters all wrong. They don't support Hillary.

In any case, you ARE aware that radical Muslims do want to come here to destroy you? As in "kill you"? I mean, it's happened already.

There's that useless spinning, lying and hyperbole again...:roll:

 

[Mycroft]

Yes, thanks for proving that you just blindly accept whatever Trump says. When he says the sun is going to rise in the west tomorrow, you'll believe that too.

No wonder he loves the less educated.

sigh...

Come on...

Don't you have ANY reasoned arguments? Is it ONLY your hyperbole? Are you now going to resort to insults?

 

[Mycroft]

"HILLARY!"

(we ain't talking about her)

Why not talk about Hillary?

Fact is, if you vote for anybody except Trump, you are actually voting for Hillary. Surely you are not so dumb to not understand that?

 

[tres borrachos]

Why not talk about Hillary?

Fact is, if you vote for anybody except Trump, you are actually voting for Hillary. Surely you are not so dumb to not understand that?

Because this thread is about the alt-right. Are you saying Hillary is part of the alt-right?

I'm not voting for Hillary. She only gets a vote when someone casts one. Surely you realize that when they count votes on election night "The lady in New Hampshire who voted for Gary Johnson is actually a vote for Hillary!". Please educate yourselves on how we count votes in this great country.

 

[tres borrachos]

I think you have Trump supporters all wrong. They don't support Hillary.

In any case, you ARE aware that radical Muslims do want to come here to destroy you? As in "kill you"? I mean, it's happened already.

There's that useless spinning, lying and hyperbole again...:roll:

Yes, all Muslims are scary people. Icky, too. Keep them out of this country (the one that apparently isn't really great). They want to destroy me. Oh noes, I better buy some prepper supplies.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Trump fans make me shudder because you support someone who is obviously an ignorant, hateful, manipulative liar.

The only scare I ever see is the one that says "Watch out - Muslims want to come here to destroy you! They want to implement Sharia law!". I know what camp that message comes from. It isn't Gary Johnson's.

Have you seen the level of support for Sharia law amongst Muslim immigrants? Have you seen the attempts to implement it in heavily Muslim areas? Have you seen what a disaster it has been in the UK and France, where small areas did have it implemented to some extent?

 

[OpportunityCost]

Yes, all Muslims are scary people. Icky, too. Keep them out of this country (the one that apparently isn't really great). They want to destroy me. Oh noes, I better buy some prepper supplies.

Get a better fishing pole. Your bait keeps falling off in the water and stinking on the surface.

The problem is the level of radicals in the Muslim population is far higher than we have seen in any other population immigrating to the US. Its a genuine problem. But you keep your head in the sand.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Yes, thanks for proving that you just blindly accept whatever Trump says. When he says the sun is going to rise in the west tomorrow, you'll believe that too.

No wonder he loves the less educated.

No, we don't. But I think everyone knows the media will hold him a damn sight more accountable than they will Hillary.

Your local bait shop must love you, you are practically chumming the water.

 

[JasperL]

Hillary...and her supporters on this forum and elsewhere don't mind being characterized as pathetic...as long as they can spin, lie and hyperbolize enough to make Trump look bad. That, after all, is their sole objective since they cannot argue a case for her based on policies.

It essentially comes down to "the ends justify the means"...even if the means makes them look like idiots.

Well, we (or at least I) don't mind pathetic Trump supporters characterizing us as pathetic :roll:. Consider the source and all.

And if you think I'm lying in any of those posts, you're welcome to jump in and demonstrate that I am in fact lying instead of throw rocks from the sidelines without bothering to prove your case.

Second, Trump being an ignorant blowhard appealing to the dregs of the white nationalist alt-right wing is in fact a policy based criticism - if affects what he'll do on immigration, the Muslim world, national security, Russia, the "War on Terror" and more. And if you'd like more policy based reasons I prefer democrats and therefore Hillary to Trump, we can take it up in another thread where it's an appropriate topic. I can promise I will have no problem making a policy based rationalization for my choice.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

Alt-right are a motley bunch of millenial tossers. Gamergate fails with chips on both shoulders 'cos they hate blacks Jews Muslims women, but mainly can't get laid.

You seem to be misled on exactly what Gamergate was (is?) about. Here's an old summary that I used to have to show people all the time.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Au contraire.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Well, we (or at least I) don't mind pathetic Trump supporters characterizing us as pathetic :roll:. Consider the source and all.

And if you think I'm lying in any of those posts, you're welcome to jump in and demonstrate that I am in fact lying instead of throw rocks from the sidelines without bothering to prove your case.

Second, Trump being an ignorant blowhard appealing to the dregs of the white nationalist alt-right wing is in fact a policy based criticism - if affects what he'll do on immigration, the Muslim world, national security, Russia, the "War on Terror" and more. And if you'd like more policy based reasons I prefer democrats and therefore Hillary to Trump, we can take it up in another thread where it's an appropriate topic. I can promise I will have no problem making a policy based rationalization for my choice.

What's funny is you think you prove anything by using media matters' conclusions from BuzzFeed source material.

What's also funny is the race card has been played so many times for so many things that its lost all meaning. Its been distorted to the point where a member of the majority cant speak on issues of the minority because he's a member of the racists/misogynists/etc. Its been thrown so much its seen as a way to shut down conversation and not engage in solutions and to use grievances as a way to gather political power.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

Au contraire.

Hmmm... Video that actually contained facts and evidence vs. a meme comic. Truly, you have won this round.

Edit: Did you even watch the video? It's only a minute and a half.

 

[Mycroft]

Because this thread is about the alt-right. Are you saying Hillary is part of the alt-right?

She is the only reason why anybody is talking about the alt-right.

And we can talk about Hillary in comparison to Trump when you talk about who Trump hires.

btw, nice side-step from my point about people hiring others...not necessarily for what they've done, but what skills they can provide the candidate.

I'm not voting for Hillary. She only gets a vote when someone casts one. Surely you realize that when they count votes on election night "The lady in New Hampshire who voted for Gary Johnson is actually a vote for Hillary!". Please educate yourselves on how we count votes in this great country.

Blah, blah.

The fact is, there are really only two effective choices. Trump or Hillary.