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What if Joe Biden was the better candidate all along?

DrewPaul said:
Sure.
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It is, it is.

Take some neuroscience courses, it is fascinating.
Our perceptions are seldom correct, we seldom use critical thinking. We are about always unaware of why we belive what we do.

You could never get a Trump if people really used critical thinking. (Just one example)
 
noonereal said:
It is, it is.

Take some neuroscience courses, it is fascinating.
Our perceptions are seldom correct, we seldom use critical thinking. We are about always unaware of why we belive what we do.

You could never get a Trump if people really used critical thinking. (Just one example)
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Let me know when you start to use critical thinking.
 
Harris would not be the democratic nominee for president if critical thinking was involved in the choice.
 
noonereal said:
Stay away from the personal insults. Speak to my posts, stay within the rules.

Thanks
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I did speak to your post. You lectured me about critical thinking.
 
noonereal said:
You spoke to me personally, not my post.
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What's your take on what critical thinking is? I think its when you seek to find the truth of a matter no matter where it falls. Acknowledging facts against your point of view as well as in favor of it. To be an objective critical thinker you have to purge any previously conceived notions.

Personally I observe your thinking and comments often go in one direction usually to the extreme.
 
DrewPaul said:
What's your take on what critical thinking is? I think its when you seek to find the truth of a matter no matter where it falls. Acknowledging facts against your point of view as well as in favor of it. To be an objective critical thinker you have to purge any previously conceived notions.

Personally I observe your thinking and comments often go in one direction usually to the extreme.
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If you are serious in learning about critical thinking and neuroscience, here is a relatively brief introduction from a neuroscience professor at Yale whom i studied under.

 
DrewPaul said:
Interesting article from The Hill....
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4941734-biden-harris-woodward-presidential-election/
With the Nov. 5 election just over a fortnight away, here is an intriguing thought experiment.
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Not really.

DrewPaul said:
By most accounts, the election is still a horse race too close to call.
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Not really.

Trump is winning and may win large.

DrewPaul said:
But although Vice President Kamala Harris quickly assumed the presidential mantle from Joe Biden and put in place an impressive start-up, October has not been particularly kind to her. Donald Trump has closed the electoral gaps, and some believe he is actually leading.
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Not some, most informed observers.

DrewPaul said:
No matter who wins, we have to ask: Would President Biden have been a better candidate and choice despite suffering from the effects of age and 81 years? Further, suppose that the disastrous June 27 debate with Trump had not taken place, or that Biden had been firing on all cylinders that night. Would Biden have been forced to withdraw? And whether Harris loses or wins, some will ask whether Biden might still have been a better candidate.
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As you say, the June debate was the end of Biden's line.

The only choice was to prevent him from running in 2023.
 
DrewPaul said:
Interesting article from The Hill....


With the Nov. 5 election just over a fortnight away, here is an intriguing thought experiment.


By most accounts, the election is still a horse race too close to call. But although Vice President Kamala Harris quickly assumed the presidential mantle from Joe Biden and put in place an impressive start-up, October has not been particularly kind to her. Donald Trump has closed the electoral gaps, and some believe he is actually leading.

No matter who wins, we have to ask: Would President Biden have been a better candidate and choice despite suffering from the effects of age and 81 years? Further, suppose that the disastrous June 27 debate with Trump had not taken place, or that Biden had been firing on all cylinders that night. Would Biden have been forced to withdraw? And whether Harris loses or wins, some will ask whether Biden might still have been a better candidate.
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Too many what ifs. What we know is Trump had a 2.6-point lead on the day of the debate which later increased to a 4.2-point lead on the day Biden withdrew. Trump also led in all 7 battleground states back on 21 July with 3 of those 7 states outside the MOE. Also, in the Trump vs. Biden rematch, 12% of the intended voters planned on voting third party against both Trump and Biden.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...24/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein

Harris brought an energy to the democratic campaign which was totally lacking with Biden. All of a sudden, democrats went from doom and gloom with Biden to having a ton of enthusiasm. Back in July only 44% of democrats were either extremely or very enthusiastic with 38% not too or not enthusiastic at all. With Harris, today 65% of democrats are either extremely or very enthusiastic with but 15% being not too or not at all enthusiastic. That is a huge difference.

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_RptTnGc.pdf

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_O3e18LR.pdf

Harris has brought life to the democratic campaign for president. She has also increased the democratic share of the vote from 39.2% with Biden to 47.4% today. Most of Harris’s additional support came from those who intended to vote third party against both Biden and Trump as the intended third-party vote fell from 12% down to 4% today. It’s highly doubtful if Biden would have been able to attract the intended third-party voter for various reasons that Harris could and did.
 
Perotista said:
Too many what ifs. What we know is Trump had a 2.6-point lead on the day of the debate which later increased to a 4.2-point lead on the day Biden withdrew. Trump also led in all 7 battleground states back on 21 July with 3 of those 7 states outside the MOE. Also, in the Trump vs. Biden rematch, 12% of the intended voters planned on voting third party against both Trump and Biden.
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At this point I think the right and left leaning media are soothsaying all of us. I hate that. I'm going into election night with no certainty who will win. Like they say in football, its why they play the games.
 
Jay59 said:
Trump is winning and may win large.
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I'm not banking on it. Trump has positives...but also huge negatives. Haley or DeSantis would have double digit leads. I suspect the news I watch are soothsayers.
 
DrewPaul said:
I'm not banking on it. Trump has positives...but also huge negatives. Haley or DeSantis would have double digit leads. I suspect the news I watch are soothsayers.
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Not banking, betting. Trump is a known quantity. The better people got to know Hattis, the more they turned to Trump.


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I won't be convinced of anything until Nov 5th or later. I'm on the West coast so I can wait for the swing states. I've been through other elections I thought were foolproof. I was totally fooled in 2016. I tuned in at 6pm (9 Eastern) only to assume Hillary had won.

Are you putting money on the election?
 
DrewPaul said:
Interesting article from The Hill....


With the Nov. 5 election just over a fortnight away, here is an intriguing thought experiment.


By most accounts, the election is still a horse race too close to call. But although Vice President Kamala Harris quickly assumed the presidential mantle from Joe Biden and put in place an impressive start-up, October has not been particularly kind to her. Donald Trump has closed the electoral gaps, and some believe he is actually leading.

No matter who wins, we have to ask: Would President Biden have been a better candidate and choice despite suffering from the effects of age and 81 years? Further, suppose that the disastrous June 27 debate with Trump had not taken place, or that Biden had been firing on all cylinders that night. Would Biden have been forced to withdraw? And whether Harris loses or wins, some will ask whether Biden might still have been a better candidate.
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If, at this point, America is still thinking about electing a convicted felon and rapist over the legacy of a president who has given us the best economy the US has seen in decades, then there is really nothing more to be said. America deserves to get what it wants, and deserves.
 
ataraxia said:
If, at this point, America is still thinking about electing a convicted felon and rapist over the legacy of a president who has given us the best economy the US has seen in decades, then there is really nothing more to be said. America deserves to get what it wants, and deserves.
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Fair enough.
 
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