What have you done to encourage people to get the vaccine?

[yankintx]

As we all know, getting the vaccine is the only thing that can keep us safe and prosperous.

But as with everything human, ignorance abounds. Some folks simply will not get the shot.

I'd like to establish a thread where we can all post examples of how we encouraged others to get the vaccine and encouraged businesses to make it mandatory for their employees or refuse service from a business whop does not compel it's employees.

For example, this week I fired my exterminator for not being vaccinated.

I have also cancelled my gym membership because no rule exists and have not bought sporting events tickets that I other wise would have.

What is your story of valor?

No Valor in my actions

I am Vet and was offered the vaccine thru the VA. They where asking Vets to bring a friend, so i did. She was unable to get the vaccine thru her HMO due to supply.

Now we can go out without masks, and i can travel to Europe this summer.

 

[AARguy]

You are worryingly misinformed.

Any specifics? No? ok.... babble on...

 

[Chagos]

Any specifics? No? ok.... babble on...

They were already stated and if you had paid attention, you would have come across them.

But sleep on by all means.

 

[Queen Margo]

Yes, I get all my medical information from emails about friends of friends.

OH, much like the liberal media sources.

 

[brothern]

I have done nothing to encourage people to get vaccinated.

 

[COTO]

What's really dangerous is a bunch of ignoramuses buying into conspiracy theories about a vaccine and giving the virus ample time to figure out a way to break through the vaccines we have now and setting the world up for another round of CONTINUING global pandemic that gradually becomes worse and worse, until we can no longer get ahead of it.

The virus will mutate or stagnate, remain at large or disappear, regardless of the precise number of Americans vaccinated. Coronaviruses spread too easily and mutate too quickly to be eradicated, even by reasonably effective vaccines.

If the effects of the virus become worrying enough to people--if it were to more closely resemble polio, say, than the flu--I assure you vaccination rates will climb. Likewise, rates will climb as long-term data on m-RNA vaccine technology becomes available and people need no longer take it on faith that the technology is safe.

But that doesn't bother you in the least, right? Because you're only thinking about the death toll instead of the clinical and economic toll, right?

The overwhelming majority of the economic toll has been due to the (largely futile) efforts to contain the virus, not the virus itself.

It's just the flu, right?

No. It's about 3-5 times as lethal for the sick and elderly, which warrants some special consideration.

See, you automatically assume I rub my hands together with glee at this idea....nope...that's what people like you do when you sacrifice everything this country stood for to "own the libs"....that's how you think.

I didn't say you're "rub[bbing] you hands together with glee", I said you're scared, and supporting the kinds of dangerous and unreasonable policies people support when they panic.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

The virus will mutate or stagnate, remain at large or disappear, regardless of the precise number of Americans vaccinated. Coronaviruses spread too easily and mutate too quickly to be eradicated, even by reasonably effective vaccines.

Incorrect, countries that practiced common sense eradicated it much more quickly. That's why life in New Zealand looked normal as far back as Fall 2020.
You are essentially advocating doing nothing, and we know that doing nothing is dangerous because we're looking at the results.

If the effects of the virus become worrying enough to people--if it were to more closely resemble polio, say, than the flu--I assure you vaccination rates will climb. Likewise, rates will climb as long-term data on m-RNA vaccine technology becomes available and people need no longer take it on faith that the technology is safe.

Meanwhile COVIDIOTS and their paid trolls in the CT media get carte blanches to keep pushing that date back, as if the window to do something is infinite.
It's finite and nothing you can say changes the fact that virii are as old as life on Earth, and virii know how to mutate better than we know how to create "antidotes" unless we act in a coordinated fashion.

The overwhelming majority of the economic toll has been due to the (largely futile) efforts to contain the virus, not the virus itself.

An interesting statement that means precisely nothing, because I never said it was anything else.
The point is, the clinical toll and economic toll are the crisis, whereas the death toll isn't, because once you're dead, you're not part of the problem anymore, you're dead.
The death toll is the TRAGEDY.

No. It's about 3-5 times as lethal for the sick and elderly, which warrants some special consideration.

Sarcasm...the political Right in America (and Brazil) keep insisting it's just the flu, and you KNOW this, so you're basically sea-lioning at this point, nice try.

I didn't say you're "rub[bbing] you hands together with glee", I said you're scared, and supporting the kinds of dangerous and unreasonable policies people support when they panic.

There is nothing dangerous in supporting maximum vaccination, which is what I am supporting.
Let's hope it doesn't get to the point where the virus is able to outsmart our vaccines.
You support playing with matches by comparison.
Me, I almost died from it.

We're done here.

 

[bomberfox]

We learned nothing from the past….

 

[bomberfox]

What the GOP was saying last year is our corporate donors are more important than your grandparents. Faux news explicitly said your grandparents must throw their lives upon the meat grinder of late stage capitalism. Lost profits are more terrifying than lost lives.

 

[phoenix2020]

3. I think that more people would take the vaccine if those who have already taken the vaccine would not be so cocksure & sanctimonious.

Huh... deciding not to get the vaccine because some people who got it acted smugly. OK, well, that's why have Darwinism. If these people want to self-select themselves out of the gene pool to prove a point, well, good for them.

 

[AARguy]

It actually is your business. Do you know how we essentially eradicated polio?

I've done nothing to encourage or discourage anyone to get the vaccine. I have it. My family has it. We're safe and ok. Not my business what others choose.

 

[Torus34]

In response to the title question, I've encouraged members of my family to get vaccinated. In addition, I've posted on forums such as this one whenever a post required de-bunking. It's kept me busy at times.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

[jimbo]

As we all know, getting the vaccine is the only thing that can keep us safe and prosperous.

But as with everything human, ignorance abounds. Some folks simply will not get the shot.

I'd like to establish a thread where we can all post examples of how we encouraged others to get the vaccine and encouraged businesses to make it mandatory for their employees or refuse service from a business whop does not compel it's employees.

For example, this week I fired my exterminator for not being vaccinated.

I have also cancelled my gym membership because no rule exists and have not bought sporting events tickets that I other wise would have.

What is your story of valor?

No we all don't know that.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

As of today ALL VETERAN CAREGIVERS are eligible to receive their COVID vaccine at any VA facility on a walk-in/no appointment necessary basis.

 

[Paradoxical]

As we all know, getting the vaccine is the only thing that can keep us safe and prosperous.

But as with everything human, ignorance abounds. Some folks simply will not get the shot.

I'd like to establish a thread where we can all post examples of how we encouraged others to get the vaccine and encouraged businesses to make it mandatory for their employees or refuse service from a business whop does not compel it's employees.

For example, this week I fired my exterminator for not being vaccinated.

I have also cancelled my gym membership because no rule exists and have not bought sporting events tickets that I other wise would have.

What is your story of valor?

I tried this with a few people and gave up. There are many hurdles to overcome In convincing people. Take for instance those who had Covid. Studies have shown that they probably have lifetime immunity. They told me I was nuts to demand they’ve vaccinated. I didn’t have any arguments based on science or facts to counter this charge.

others told me that the CDC reported on their site that VaERS reports that over 5,000 people have died within a few hours, days or weeks after taking the va whereas they were strapping young men before taking it.
still others pointed to blood clotting, heart issues and the fact that this is an emergency vaccine and not fully tested. I found these arguments compelling and difficult to combat.

some said that herd immunity has kicked in with all the people that got it or have been vaccinated and I had no valid response.

Others threatened to deck me for threatening them and told me I would better suited for the Chinese army.

i gave up.

 

[COTO]

Incorrect, countries that practiced common sense eradicated it much more quickly. That's why life in New Zealand looked normal as far back as Fall 2020.

Some countries enjoyed lower overall infection rates, but numerous studies (25 and counting) have concluded that the infection rates don't correlate with strictness of lockdown measures.

I agree that common sense--and in particular, the practice of self-quarantining when ill--has a major impact on reducing the spread of infection, and that some (not all) Asian countries in particular did this better than European or North American countries. In fact, it's perfectly reasonable to state that they prevailed against the virus without the use of vaccines.

New Zealand is a closed island with a tiny population that shut its airports to foreign travel at the beginning of the pandemic. Furthermore, their lockdown measures were less strict--and in effect for less time--than most US states.

It's finite and nothing you can say changes the fact that virii are as old as life on Earth, and virii know how to mutate better than we know how to create "antidotes" unless we act in a coordinated fashion.

Viruses know how to mutate better than we know how to create vaccines regardless of whether we act in a coordinated fashion, as the "Delta Variant" and the "Delta Plus Variant", and 10,000 vaccine-resistant strains to come readily prove.

The point is, the clinical toll and economic toll are the crisis, whereas the death toll isn't, because once you're dead, you're not part of the problem anymore, you're dead.
The death toll is the TRAGEDY.

The deaths and the economic fallout are both tragedies. I've posted on whitepapers that quantify the effect of both in terms of total years of human life lost. The number of years of life lost due to the direct and incidental effects of the lockdowns in particular dwarf the number of years of life lost due to the virus itself.

Sarcasm...the political Right in America (and Brazil) keep insisting it's just the flu, and you KNOW this, so you're basically sea-lioning at this point, nice try.

I was declaring my agreement that COVID is measurably worse than the flu, but if you want bluntness:

COVID is far closer to the flu than to a disease that legitimately warrants the panic--both personal and governmental--and the resulting havoc we've laboured under for more than a year.

Me, I almost died from it.

I realize this, and I further realize that you've suffered long-lasting effects. For you, COVID was no run-of-the-mill influenza. Even so, the experience has compromised your ability to keep proper perspective on the issue.

We see the same thing with people who survive mass shootings and then go around demanding new laws, strictures, prohibitions, bureaucracies--anything--regardless of effectiveness, deleterious impacts, and (lack of) moral justification. They get scared, they develop a psychological need to exert control over society at large to cope with their fear, and they embrace brash, dangerous, and/or illiberal policies they wouldn't otherwise support.

 

[Good4Nothin]

What the GOP was saying last year is our corporate donors are more important than your grandparents. Faux news explicitly said your grandparents must throw their lives upon the meat grinder of late stage capitalism. Lost profits are more terrifying than lost lives.

You are not aware that most of the business destroyed by the lockdowns were small privately owned businesses? You are not aware that the huge powerful companies like Amazon benefited greatly from the lockdowns?

And you aren't aware that the Democrats also owned by huge corporations and mega banks?

 

[bomberfox]

You are not aware that most of the business destroyed by the lockdowns were small privately owned businesses? You are not aware that the huge powerful companies like Amazon benefited greatly from the lockdowns?

And you aren't aware that the Democrats also owned by huge corporations and mega banks?

You are still referring to the profits of the business class which is encompassed in my post. Deflection denied. The lockdowns should have included payments for lost wages a la vietnam and Germany. 600k dead is a lot of cash flow and productivity that cannot be regained too. Buh buh the democrats is irrelevant.

 

[Good4Nothin]

I tried this with a few people and gave up. There are many hurdles to overcome In convincing people. Take for instance those who had Covid. Studies have shown that they probably have lifetime immunity. They told me I was nuts to demand they’ve vaccinated. I didn’t have any arguments based on science or facts to counter this charge.

others told me that the CDC reported on their site that VaERS reports that over 5,000 people have died within a few hours, days or weeks after taking the va whereas they were strapping young men before taking it.
still others pointed to blood clotting, heart issues and the fact that this is an emergency vaccine and not fully tested. I found these arguments compelling and difficult to combat.

some said that herd immunity has kicked in with all the people that got it or have been vaccinated and I had no valid response.

Others threatened to deck me for threatening them and told me I would better suited for the Chinese army.

i gave up.

You had good reasons for giving up. People who are skeptical about these vaccine are not all far right nuts.

 

[noonereal]

No we all don't know that.

Now that is a shame.

This is common knowledge.

 

[noonereal]

I tried this with a few people and gave up. There are many hurdles to overcome In convincing people. Take for instance those who had Covid. Studies have shown that they probably have lifetime immunity. They told me I was nuts to demand they’ve vaccinated. I didn’t have any arguments based on science or facts to counter this charge.

others told me that the CDC reported on their site that VaERS reports that over 5,000 people have died within a few hours, days or weeks after taking the va whereas they were strapping young men before taking it.
still others pointed to blood clotting, heart issues and the fact that this is an emergency vaccine and not fully tested. I found these arguments compelling and difficult to combat.

some said that herd immunity has kicked in with all the people that got it or have been vaccinated and I had no valid response.

Others threatened to deck me for threatening them and told me I would better suited for the Chinese army.

i gave up.

My guess, they had no respect for your words.

 

[Monica33]

Everything in my power to highlight the horrific dangers with the Spike Protein, the delivery envelope ( PEG ) , heavy metal nanoparticles , the lying track record of the CDC .And others .

But 90% of people have low IQ ( under 120) , 90% est are physically and mentally lazy and 90% , say , are Gullible .

There comes a point where people get the breaks they truly deserve .

In Spades this time .

All imho as ever .

 

[Paradoxical]

My guess, they had no respect for your words.

No re futation you mean, fixed it for ya.

 

[Ginger Ale]

Some countries enjoyed lower overall infection rates, but numerous studies (25 and counting) have concluded that the infection rates don't correlate with strictness of lockdown measures.

I agree that common sense--and in particular, the practice of self-quarantining when ill--has a major impact on reducing the spread of infection, and that some (not all) Asian countries in particular did this better than European or North American countries. In fact, it's perfectly reasonable to state that they prevailed against the virus without the use of vaccines.

New Zealand is a closed island with a tiny population that shut its airports to foreign travel at the beginning of the pandemic. Furthermore, their lockdown measures were less strict--and in effect for less time--than most US states.


Viruses know how to mutate better than we know how to create vaccines regardless of whether we act in a coordinated fashion, as the "Delta Variant" and the "Delta Plus Variant", and 10,000 vaccine-resistant strains to come readily prove.


The deaths and the economic fallout are both tragedies. I've posted on whitepapers that quantify the effect of both in terms of total years of human life lost. The number of years of life lost due to the direct and incidental effects of the lockdowns in particular dwarf the number of years of life lost due to the virus itself.


I was declaring my agreement that COVID is measurably worse than the flu, but if you want bluntness:

COVID is far closer to the flu than to a disease that legitimately warrants the panic--both personal and governmental--and the resulting havoc we've laboured under for more than a year.


I realize this, and I further realize that you've suffered long-lasting effects. For you, COVID was no run-of-the-mill influenza. Even so, the experience has compromised your ability to keep proper perspective on the issue.

We see the same thing with people who survive mass shootings and then go around demanding new laws, strictures, prohibitions, bureaucracies--anything--regardless of effectiveness, deleterious impacts, and (lack of) moral justification. They get scared, they develop a psychological need to exert control over society at large to cope with their fear, and they embrace brash, dangerous, and/or illiberal policies they wouldn't otherwise support.

I'm curious, what is your take on how the world is handling this pandemic? Do you think most of the world leaders are just paranoid? Scared? Have a psychological need to exert control over their societies? All for the exception I guess of Brazil, who didn't do much of anything to help Brazilians. It's clear on paper that those who did more PPP, and those who have higher vaccination rates save more lives.

It's not just us on here. It's not just the left. It's the entire world because it's a pandemic. What do you think the world should have done instead? I ask because I hear a lot of what we shouldn't do, but not a lot of alternatives. I hear crickets when I ask. Still waiting for Joko to get back with his fix for the pandemic.

 

[Ginger Ale]

Everything in my power to highlight the horrific dangers with the Spike Protein, the delivery envelope ( PEG ) , heavy metal nanoparticles , the lying track record of the CDC .And others .

But 90% of people have low IQ ( under 120) , 90% est are physically and mentally lazy and 90% , say , are Gullible .

There comes a point where people get the breaks they truly deserve .

In Spades this time .

All imho as ever .

I'm really trying hard to get your point, and my IQ is decent, but nope, not clear on what you're ranting about here. Maybe you could dumb it down for me a bit.....