JOHNYJ said:Liberals have this love for this label,extreme right wing,what extreme right wing ? They have pushed America to the left. I was a centerist democrat most of my life. At the rate things are going I am going to be a Conservative democrat and I wouldn't have changed my ideas one wit .
The extreme Right Wing is not nearly as big as Liberals want to make it seem.
Another phrase they abuse is " christian conservative " Not long ago the word 'christian ' would have suficed .The leadership of mainline christian chuches has become more and more liberal and have been loosing followers at the same time. You will note you dont hear the phrase "liberal christian ".
JOHNYJ said:Liberals have this love for this label,extreme right wing,what extreme right wing ? They have pushed America to the left. I was a centerist democrat most of my life. At the rate things are going I am going to be a Conservative democrat and I wouldn't have changed my ideas one wit .
The extreme Right Wing is not nearly as big as Liberals want to make it seem.
Another phrase they abuse is " christian conservative " Not long ago the word 'christian ' would have suficed .The leadership of mainline christian chuches has become more and more liberal and have been loosing followers at the same time. You will note you dont hear the phrase "liberal christian ".
Liberals have this love for this label,extreme right wing,what extreme right wing ? They have pushed America to the left. I was a centerist democrat most of my life. At the rate things are going I am going to be a Conservative democrat and I wouldn't have changed my ideas one wit .
The extreme Right Wing is not nearly as big as Liberals want to make it seem.
Another phrase they abuse is " christian conservative " Not long ago the word 'christian ' would have suficed .The leadership of mainline christian chuches has become more and more liberal and have been loosing followers at the same time. You will note you dont hear the phrase "liberal christian ".
Another phrase they abuse is " christian conservative " Not long ago the word 'christian ' would have suficed .The leadership of mainline christian chuches has become more and more liberal and have been loosing followers at the same time. You will note you dont hear the phrase "liberal christian ".
jamesrage said:If you throw the word liberal onto any religious affiliation,then you might as well be adding the word fake to christian,muslim,or judiasm any time you state liberal christian,liberal jew,and or liberal muslim.
Liberal christians are not real christians,that is why they do not defend God's commandments in a courthouse and any other public building and make fun of the commandments.The liberal christians do not uphold any of God's commandments or they pick and choose which commandments to obey and claim the rest of commandments were written by extreamist/zealots/pharasies.And they think Jesus made sin legal in God's eyes.
Liberal Jews are not real jews they claim to be jewish only because their parents are jewish.The liberal jews does not uphold any of God's commandments or they pick and choose which commandments to obey and claim the rest of commandments were written by extreamist.
Liberal muslims are not real muslims.They are just fake a liberal christian or liberal jew.
And conservative Christians pick and choose which Biblical laws to obey and claim the rest were written by God only for specific people at a specific time. What else is new?jamesrage said:The liberal christians do not uphold any of God's commandments or they pick and choose which commandments to obey and claim the rest of commandments were written by extreamist/zealots/pharasies.And they think Jesus made sin legal in God's eyes.
I ask myself this question a lot. People call me a liberal. But I've never thought of myself in those terms. Even today, after researching the issue, I have liberal views in some areas and conservative views in others. If I had to put a label on myself, I'd call myself a voter. An American Voter. Aligning with one party or the other is like drawing lines in the sand. "Cross this line, and you die!" As soon as you cross it, they draw another line and say, "Cross THIS line and you die!" And on and on it goes....Originally posted by 128shot:
why do we seek to label anything?
This exactly why people do it. Because its easy. Just label someone a bleeding heart liberal, and call it a day. It's so ridiculous. The more they label, the more I know they don't have a valid arguement.Originally posted by 128shot:
Isn't that a bit too easy? things are much more complex than that...
Ratings. Ratings. Ratings..........by trying to act like Howard (who doesn't have any drug or alcohol problems, just FCC ones).Originally posted by 128shot:
and why do all talk show radio hosts have alcohol and drug problems, overweight, and just insult one particular group of people over and over?
To me, extreme right wing is:
- Opposing any form of public funding to help the unemployed or disadvantaged.
- Supporting lassez faire capitalism.
- Supporting a church-state.
- Willingness to hunt animal species to extinction.
- Believing a religious text over science.
- Racist and sexist.
YamiB. said:You hear conservative Christian and not liberal Christian because it is conservatives who are using the goverment to try forcing Christianity on people.
JOHNYJ said:RE : Southern Democrat / #14
In what way isnt the democrat party far left ? I admit they maybe some what more frugal than the Republicans on,moey,Strange as that seems.
Their leftist social ideas are what dominates in the democratic party.
SouthernDemocrat said:Look, I am not a member of the extreme left. I am a Democrat, but more of a centrist one than anything. In fact, there are times I support moderate Republicans over Democrats.
That said, there is simply no doubt about it that the Republican leadership by and large is a lot further to the right of center than the Democratic leadership is to the left of center. Many Republican leaders are as far to the right as the green party is to the left. Thats a fact. Barry Goldwater represented the far right of the Republican Party in 1964. Today, he would at best be a moderate Republican. Arlen Specter in the 60s was at the far right of the Republican Party, today he is one of the more liberal Republicans. He didnt change, the Republican Party did. Ronald Reagan was more conservative than any president before or since. Yet most Republican leaders are every bit as conservative as Ronald Reagan was.
Democrats are less liberal today than they were 40 years ago. By and large, JFK was far more liberal on most issues than todays Democrats. He referred to himself as a proud liberal in the same line as FDR.
Notice I am refering to political ideology, not social liberalism. A lot of people get the two confused. The nation is more socially liberal today than ever before, the nation will be more socially liberal in 10 years than it is today. That change is a constant.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:If the Dem party hasn't gone far left then how do you explain Dean heading the DNC, furthermore; if you actually listen to Bush and see what he's doing he is one of the most liberal Reps to ever enter the white house, why do you think he's losing alot of support from the conservatives in the Rep party?
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