What, exactly, do people want from a president that's different than Biden?

[Craig234]

There's a rather high level of dissatisfaction with Biden. Is that anything more than people being, for an indelicate word, rather idiotic, or at least manipulated by propaganda?

I'd like to hear, what would people like a president to do specifically, different than Biden.

Not 'things' they'd like different, like 'lower inflation' Biden has done nothing wrong on, but specific things for the president to do, policies to support. If they want lower inflation, how are they saying the president should do that, should Biden have let the economy crash instead of stimulus?

Similarly, I don't want to hear 'do something to fix the border'. That's not a specific thing for a president to do differently than Biden. Here's factcheck.org quoting an expert that the immigration isn't from Biden policy:

"Other immigration experts, writing in the Washington Post, agree that “the current increase in apprehensions fits a predictable pattern of seasonal changes in undocumented immigration combined with a backlog of demand because of 2020’s coronavirus border closure.” It’s “not a surge,” they said.

Overall, Payan said, “The patterns of migration do not seem to correlate to any specific U.S. immigration policy. The numbers seem to go up and down on a logic of their own.” People leave their home countries for reasons other than U.S. policy, such as deteriorating economic, political or public safety conditions."

If we need immigration reform, which many feel we do, that seems more an issue for Congress - which nearly passed a bill at one point, but Republicans changed their minds and killed it. Not so much a 'thing for a president to do differently than Biden'.

I have things I'd like to see different from Biden, but they don't make me support someone else, so I'll leave them to the side for the moment. So let's hear the specific things, the policies, the taxes, the regulations, the foreign policy, the administration, the laws, whatever people want from a president Biden is getting wrong. Because it seems pretty irrational and how to get a terrible president instead, as we've done in other elections.

 

[ataraxia]

Give voice to their concerns some way or another, not just NOT talk about it at all: the demographic shifts they feel are going to effect not just the racial make-up of the US, but its culture (including guns); to keep their religion having a stronger voice in public affairs than others, to stop what they see as the loss of traditional morality (acceptance of gays, "woke" culture) etc...

They see their way of life and their sense of identity as to what it means to be an American dying. They want someone to acknowledge that, give voice to it, and do something about it. It's frightening.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Biden is kind of stuck between people who want accelerated social progress and people who want to take us back a few decades. He's in a bit of a no win situation.

 

[Razoo]

Just to get things moving .......

Someone would not sell off federal land to big oil as in Koch Oil owners of Phillips-Conoco...

Someone who does not have a status quo background

Someone who will step up and add 4 new judges to the Supreme Court

Someone who will step up to save the USPS from Louis Dejoy

Someone who will lead the way to not allowing a supreme court acting as a super power over our legislative body. Meaning that legislation must be returned to the house or congress or both until an agreement is made instead of bypassing the bodies of responsibility to a group who has no business being the last word.

The Supreme Court is NOT an elected body it is a political body.

Someone who will step up and lead the way to a country that protects the majority of voters that which is
Moderate in their politics. This person realizes a Woman's Right To Choose which protects every woman's right
to choose whether it be yea or nay ...............

 

[Mycroft]

There's a rather high level of dissatisfaction with Biden. Is that anything more than people being, for an indelicate word, rather idiotic, or at least manipulated by propaganda?

I'd like to hear, what would people like a president to do specifically, different than Biden.

Lead.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

Well, basically 100% of conservatives are not going to like Biden, so there goes like 45% of the country right there. But then Biden also isn't far left enough for many Democrats, so there goes another good 15-20%. Really only a small moderate 5-10% of the country are die hard Biden enjoyers, with another 10-20% feeling fairly positive (if not excited) about him.

There is no doubt; Biden is one of the most progressive presidents the US has ever had on a number of issues. That is no small thing. But there are a number of reasons many of the left (especially young people) don't like him. I'm going to focus on the left because the right was never going to like him anyway.

So let's hear the specific things, the policies, the taxes, the regulations, the foreign policy, the administration, the laws, whatever people want from a president Biden is getting wrong. Because it seems pretty irrational and how to get a terrible president instead, as we've done in other elections.

For me, the one of the worst policy things he did was throwing the striking rail workers under the bus. Absolutely disgusting, especially considering a huge reason for the strike wasn't even pay...but unreasonably long and unsafe working hours and considerations. And a few weeks later we had East Palestine.

But a lot of young Democrat voters are basically as far or further left than Bernie Sanders is. Biden didn't beat Bernie by that much, and while those voters fell in line to oust Trump, they didn't change their political opinions. So a lot of people aren't going to like Biden because he doesn't support universal healthcare. Or a $15 minimum wage. Or even really push for stronger labor laws protecting unions. He talks about "good union jobs" all the time, but certainly doesn't seem too concerned about making them.

A lot of people, most people even, are going to base how the 'feel' about a president on if they 'feel' they are fighting for them. Did Trump make Mexico build the wall? No. Did we epically own China in our trade war? No. Did we bring manufacturing jobs back? Nope. DId voters 'feel' he was fighting for those things? Damn right they did.

And that, ultimately, is why a lot of the left dislikes Biden. They don't 'feel' like he cares about issues. He comes off as someone who changes his opinion to whatever will get him elected abased off of polling data.

 

[Mr Person]

Hah!

This would be an infinitely better debate board if everyone actually articulated their own reasons why a politician did something wrong and how to do it better.

But overwhelmingly they just repeat criticisms they heard elsewhere. Often enough they do not seem to even think what Biden did was wrong in a given situation. They haven't thought about it on their own at all, it seems.

I mean, they'll say it was wrong. But they can't tell you why in their own words. They also can't go any deeper than the words they read or heard. If you ask "why did you say "blah blah blah" in light of X,Y,Z", you will *NOT* get a coherent response. You'll get a deflection of some sort, a brand new accusation, or a straight repetition of whatever they just said.

 

[Razoo]

Just to get things moving .......

Someone would not sell off federal land to big oil as in Koch Oil owners of Phillips-Conoco...

Someone who does not have a status quo background

Someone who will step up and add 4 new judges to the Supreme Court

Someone who will step up to save the USPS from Louis Dejoy

Someone who will lead the way to not allowing a supreme court acting as a super power over our legislative body. Meaning that legislation must be returned to the house or congress or both until an agreement is made instead of bypassing the bodies of responsibility to a group who has no business being the last word.

The Supreme Court is NOT an elected body it is a political body.

Someone who will step up and lead the way to a country that protects the majority of voters that which is
Moderate in their politics. This person realizes a Woman's Right To Choose which protects every woman's right
to choose whether it be yea or nay ...............

Someone who will see fit to grant taxpayers two economic boost checks ..one every six months....which will find their way back into the economy pronto. After all it is our money and most will likely be spent locally.

Someone who will push the elimination of the Electoral College and go after with gusto voter suppression and absurd gerrymandering.

I will do a ditto on someone who will back workers such as the railway worker on improving employee quality of life. That I could not get a grip on.

I have watched Biden for a number of decades.........too status quo for me.

 

[8085]

There's a rather high level of dissatisfaction with Biden. Is that anything more than people being, for an indelicate word, rather idiotic, or at least manipulated by propaganda?

I'd like to hear, what would people like a president to do specifically, different than Biden.

The problem isn't just Biden or even his branch of the tree, it's the whole tree is the wrong tree.
It's a hawthorn tree and we need oranges.

It isn't just that he is stupid and somewhat senile,

but the policies nowadays backfire every he uses them.

It isn't just Biden that is defective, it is the whole set of policies he has been given.

The policies are inconsistent and do not correspond to the world we are now in.

 

[EdwinWillers]

What, exactly, do people want from a president that's different than Biden?​

Cognitive sanity
An incorruptible character
A firm moral compass
A non-partisan concern for the welfare of the United States
An ability and willingness to fight for the above
An ability to bring all sides together to work for important, common goals
A leader and statesman

...that would at least be a decent start

 

[8085]

Joe Biden has zero understanding of diplomacy and of the present world order.

Joe threatened a factory worker in Detroit to a punch up and basically that is the level of his diplomacy.

But a bigger part of the problem is the people who actually thought his policies would be any good.

 

[8085]

Take a really big disaster, Biden decided to isolate Russia with sanctions, and so did a lot of his minions.

They confiscated Russia's dollar reserves and told Belgium to ban Russia from using the SWIFT money exchange system.

Anyone who was going to trade with Russia couldn't do it with the world's reserve currency which was the dollar.

So we forced Russia and China to trade together and to support each other - China needed the energy from Russia and Russia needed many of the things manufactured in China.

Who needed the US? Not really anybody that much, because we have taken manufacturing from our own working class and moved it to China.

So we succeeded in linking Russia closely with exactly the country you would have thought we didn't want them working with.

 

[8085]

And the trend has continued for relatively obvious reasons.

Biden is running the presses printing dollars and thereby devaluing the dollar.

So which countries in the world are willing to be left holding rapidly devaluing dollars?

 

[8085]

We need a President who

1. (more to the left?) Doesn't want to fight every nation in the world
2. (more to the right?) Believes in a balanced budget including balanced trade with the rest of the world
3. (more to the left?) Who will do what most people want and eliminate the US health insurance maze and replace it with single payer, and doesn't think that is inviting Joseph Stalin to run the country.

That health insurance scam is why companies have trouble affording to pay people to do low wage jobs, but contract them out or if possible move them overseas or mechanize them.

So we terminate production here and buy things from abroad and then the government pays the health insurance costs of the people who used to do manufacturing but are now either unemployed or in some non productive government or government funded job.

We need a President who doesn't combine the worst of the left and the worst of the right and think he is doing everyone a favor.

Biden is just working for the rich, giving money to the Military Industrial Congressional Complex through war, and to the Health Insurance scams, whether classed as left or right he is always working for his wealthy backers.

 

[8085]

Consider two successful Presidents or Presidential candidates and what they had to offer.

1. Donald Trump despite COVID handed back the US in a good financial state.
Few people focus on what Donald Trump did not do: he did not start any new wars.
Further he stabilized the situation in Afghanistan.
Guess who didn't like either one of those actions - the weapons industry.


2. Bernie Sanders backed single payer healthcare for all.
It would have totally transformed the US economy and freed up 1 million good workers presently wasting time moving around pieces of paper.


There were other things that should be fixed but those were the two big things.

 

[Razoo]

Donald J Trump and the fake GOP party suck across the board ................. and have been sucking going on 43 years.

This fukking sucks 24/7 and yes I have a strong dislike for this group of ......believe it!

CONSERVATIVE Fake Republicans will never give up squashing democracy and YOUR right to vote. And steal OUR government services through their privatization scam.

So what is the secret 40 year Old ANTI AMERICAN RINO FAKE GOP Party Platform

Meet the 24/7 Fake Republican Fascist Scam of the century!!!!!

--- War On Good Wages aka Right To Work Legislation
--- War against AFFORDABLE Medical Insurance and Single Payer
--- War On Medicare
--- War On Medicaid
--- War on public education and Higher Education
--- War On Social Security Insurance
--- War on the economy through Supply Side Wreckanomics
--- War against women
--- War on the VA and Veterans Benefits
--- War on Voters Rights = VOTER SUPPRESSION
--- War on strict gun regulations
--- War On National Monuments/Parks
--- War on the press
--- War on the USA Postal Service
--- War On Environmental Cleanliness
--- War On USA Jobs through Free Trade Agreements and Leveraged Buyout Scams
--- War for Oil Control Worldwide
--- War on truth about global warming/climate change
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2010/03/30/174616/koch-denial-machine/