Well, your self-imposed segregation from the principles of our governmental system condemn you to the ignorance you display in nearly every post.
It simply can not be argued to exist . . .
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You seem to be having a great deal of trouble accepting the fact that all people do NOT accept your own beliefs. I suspect this is a condition not unique to yourself and is in fact shared by many True Believers of all sort of faith based doctrine. History shows us that the True Believer will welcome death and be a martyr to their beliefs rather than deny their own self imposed fantasy.
That is fine as such is your right as an American.
It would be good however if you stopped your attacks upon me and simply accepted that people have been on different sides of this question for hundreds of years and you are NOT going to settle it today. Despite all the volumes written about the subject, the belief in natural rights is still just a belief and no writer, no theorist, no philosopher has been able to come up with any proof of it.
The Constitution is real. The rights contained in it are real. That is what I concentrate on rather than the unprovable belief system which produced or may have produced them.
People believe in fantasy all the time and it motivates them to real world actions or deeds. The fact that it was fantasy that produced it is interesting but it in no way shape or from then proves the reality of the fantasy. It is still a fantasy.
The existence of the Constitution no more proves natural rights than the good deeds of Mother Teresa of Calcutta proves the existence of the God which inspired her to that wonderful life of service.
A very rich man can be convinced that the Faerie Kingdom exists and spend hundreds of millions of dollars building a ornate faerie castle that is very very real. He can open it to the public and you could walk through it and touch it and smell it the same way one can build a monument to a cartoon mouse. But that castle does not magically transform the belief of Faerie into a reality. The belief is still fantasy.
As is your belief in natural rights.
As I said, our rights might as well be inviolate forces of physics when the powers of Congress to modify or eliminate them is concerned.
But they are not so this line of argument is at best silly and at worse a demonstration that you are badly confusing the laws of science with the laws of man through government.
That you think you can discuss the powers and actions of government while denying the "existence" of non-tangible political philosophy is a cruel self-imposed reality (AKA delusion).
Again, you seem either badly confused or you are ascribing beliefs and positions to me that I have not taken. I do NOT deny the existence of other peoples belief systems some of which manifest themselves into political philosophy. What I have said quite clearly is that this is simply an intellectual construct that was created to provide some sort of rationalization for what a person wants to believe in the first place.
Yet again, it all comes back to self imposed belief that you cannot prove exists independent of any actual work or reality than may have inspired an individual or groups to create.
Again, the million dollar Faerie Kingdom castle can indeed be real. The belief in the Faerie Kingdom which inspired the structure is still a self imposed belief no matter how large, how ornate and how beautiful it is.
Your obtuseness is noted and my point stands
Obtuseness.... ahhhhh .... insistence that reality be applied to the real world is not considered as OBTUSE by you. Okay. That is your right to believe that. Your point has never stood as it is one of self imposed belief. And all the fellow True Believers laid end to end around the equator will not change a belief into a provable fact.
This does finally explain your delusional belief that you "support" the 2nd Amendment.
No one has ever produced one single sentence from me indicating that I wanted to deny the full protection of the Second Amendment to anyone. And that includes yourself.
