accident :3oops:Naughty Nurse said:Why is this in the basement?
kellyjaz said:I am A muslim, Yes alot of times Religoun brings hate instead of peace.. but i dont know, everyone is different and beleives differently, i beleive in spiritual things, so iam a muslim but iam more spiritual! what iam trying to say is that religiuon sometimes helps ppl alot, and IT DOES bring peace at times which creates greator hate!
I've moved this over to religion & philosophy.BigMoose67 said:accident :3oops:
What does that mean? :shock:Quertol said:Christ said that He would be the rock of offense...
guns_God_glory said:I think religion in itself is something essential to mankind. We need something to believe in when things are hard. Denomminations are what can caus the spread the hate. I am a baptist. I don't go and try to convert people. But when the topic comes up I do tell people of other religions about what our God is. Besides it being our religion to spread the word of God it makes for a good conversation. Denominations and the people who enforce their religion with an iron fist are the ones who spread hat.
Niffer said:I agree, religion brain washes people. We can use this brain washing technique to our advantage and get the largest religion in the world (Christianity) to have one mind set about politics, raising children, and pretty much everything we fell like!
WiseRufus said:That's funny. I thought you were serious for a moment. But that's what makes this quote all the more real and frightening.
There are so many people out there that use this logic (for real) in their daily lives. They say, "Yeah, I'm a Christian, and I don't try to convert people, but...you guys suck, your own religions suck, you're going to hell, you have no values, you're not a true Christian...but hey, I'm not judging."
They don't even see how they contradicted themselves and actually believe in the logic they just presented.
Like many people here, I grew up Christian. It wasn't until I started studing history that I realized I had been brainwashed. Then I started thinking logically. Logic is something that is truely lacking in a lot of these people.
guns_God_glory said:So Logic vs. Faith
"Logic" will get you far. It helps you make sense of things that you can understand. But what happens when you come across something that logic can't help you understand? Faith is just as or more important to human beings. It doesn't have to be faith in God. It just has to be faith. Something you believe in no matter what happens. What do you have faith in?
alex said:Could you provide an example of what logic cannot help someone understand? I realize that there may be somethings (although I cannot think of one) but that does not mean a logical understanding does not exist for it. It just may not have been realized yet, or it may take more thinking than people are willing to do.
guns_God_glory said:That's exactly what I mean. When someone doesn't understand something because they don't know the answer. Or maybe there isn't one.
Poor you. You have nothing to believe in. You think that logic can explain it all. One day you'll find out your wrong.Niffer said:So now your contridicting your self? Your points are shabby, Logic explains everything, it just depends on the people who are willing to listen. God is for the weak minded, its for those who can't accept our purppose in life because it makes us who we really are...Animals! Now your going to say "but we're smarter then all the other animals!" ! agree yes we are ((or some of us anyways)). But think about it we were just lucky! Someone has to be on top, we were just lucky it was us. Thats all deal with it
guns_God_glory said:Poor you. You have nothing to believe in. You think that logic can explain it all. One day you'll find out your wrong.
It's not the religion itself that spreads hate. It's the enforcing it upon others who don't believe like you do that causes hate. I don't care what religion you are, if you believe in God it is good enough for me. All you Christians out there the bible states that Jews and Gentiles should be brothers. Meaning that you should accept other religions as long as they believe in God as their Saviour. Their perspective of God and practices are indifferent.loverofpeace said:My opinion:
Organized religion: hate
Individual spirituality: love
It was written by the hand of men and the spirit of God.Niffer said:Oh thank you! Yes thats it one day i hope to find God! Oh thank you fair sir for now i see the light!
Where do i even begin how wrong you are? Frist of all I'm not poor because theres stupid little flaws in your religion. Second thats a pretty stupid thing to say "one day you'll find out your wrong", because you defiantly don't have any proof. In which case if this WAS a REAL debate, that point would of course be moot. But lets not get technical here ^^. You have to look at it this way, your proof that god exists is a book written by men?
Yes there is actually proof of Jesus' existence thus there is proof of Gods existence.Niffer said:Theres no back up info to prove weather or not they were just making it up.
yeah, fish grow legs, ape turn into men. Much proof. Point out where we have seen significant evolution in documented history.Niffer said:As for evolution there is much more back up! Yeah i do think logic can explain it all, it makes a lot more sense then just believing somethings there.
Niffer said:love,
God
P.S Prove I'm not ^^
Gotta love a baptist with a since of humor.Niffer said:Where do i even begin how wrong you are? Frist of all I'm not poor because theres stupid little flaws in your religion.
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