Ironically, I thought that the link did work since there was nothing there when I clicked on the link. (And yes, I do have a morbid sense of humor, why do you ask? )vauge said:The URL doesn't work, but I am not sure that I want to see it.
alienken said:{{There is a flaw in your terminology. I think you mean to say aborted foetus, not child. Your English is very bad.}}.....No Ms. Franklin that IS correct english. People call the baby a fetus to depersonalise the situation.The baby has fingerprints even his/her own DNA.
alienken said:{{There is a flaw in your terminology. I think you mean to say aborted foetus, not child. Your English is very bad.}}.....No Ms. Franklin that IS correct english. People call the baby a fetus to depersonalise the situation.The baby has fingerprints even his/her own DNA.
Your whole response is ridiculous.Your comparing a bacteria with a baby. And yes, crack a biology book if you like and count the fingers toes and hands. Roll your eyes all you want but MISSNaughty Nurse said:No, they call a foetus a foetus because it is a foetus. It's like we call a chair a chair because it's, ummm, a chair! :screwy
DNA and finger prints? Well, a bacterium has its own DNA. Are you absolutely oppossed to the use of antibiotics and disinfectants? And what, exactly, is the sifnificance of some patterns on the finger tips? Are they the seat of the alleged soul? Was each line put there by the alleged god him/her/itself?
alienken said:Your whole response is ridiculous.Your comparing a bacteria with a baby.
The facts aren't ignored, it's just that the line has to be drawn in the sand somewhere. The problem is, for some, it's at birth, for some it's at conception, for the Supreme Court in Roe V. Wade it's after the first semester (and after that it's up to the individual state's interpretation).vauge said:Welcome to Debate Politics!
No argument here. I do not understand how these facts are ignored.
shuamort said:The facts aren't ignored, it's just that the line has to be drawn in the sand somewhere. The problem is, for some, it's at birth, for some it's at conception, for the Supreme Court in Roe V. Wade it's after the first semester (and after that it's up to the individual state's interpretation).
That's problem one.
Problem two is if you claim that life begins at conception, how do you limit or grant a government's role in protection of it?
1)Do you stop at abortions?
2)Do you consider it a homicide if a person kills the fetus?
3)Is it considered felonious child abuse if a mother drinks/smokes/does drugs or otherwise harmful activities while pregnant?
4)Should the mother be charged with manslaughter/murder if the infant is miscarried by doing harmful activities?
5)Should there be a perfunctory investigation if there is a miscarriage, just in case?
I could go on and on (and often I do), my point is that you redraw the lines in the sand and you open Pandora's box for a lot of problems.
Here's a "fun fact" for the day. In California and Kansas, minor boys statutorily raped by adult women must pay child support to the criminals who raped him. In one case, the boy was drugged before sex.
alienken said:Your whole response is ridiculous.Your comparing a bacteria with a baby. And yes, crack a biology book if you like and count the fingers toes and hands.
alienken said:MISS
Franklin,
ShamMol said:http://www.gospelbillboard.com/abortion.jpg
So click the picture of the aborted fetus if you wanna see.
Asherz said:A developing baby has a heartbeat at just 22 days after conception. The baby is starting to develop teeth under the gums in just 8 weeks. At week 9 the babys fingers and thumb have taken shape. At week 10 the baby is able to move and all of the joints are formed. By week 12 the baby's respitory system and nearly all of the organs are formed.
Only someone with no heart could terminate something like that. What is inside of you is a baby, your baby.
Why of course i can read! this might really impress you but I have to brag about my 3rd grade education. Yep, I know my numbers too!Urethra Franklin said:Why are you directing your response at me when you're responding to Naughty Nurse's (very correct) post, not mine? Learn to read.
alienken said:Why of course i can read! this might really impress you but I have to brag about my 3rd grade education. Yep, I know my numbers too!
I prefer to see Samuel Armas while he was still in the womb. This one has a happy ending.Urethra Franklin said:I think your key word here is "several" I would be interested to know just how many months?
This appears to me very large to be within the legal limit in most countries where abortion is legal. I've seen many abortions - never with an end result like that. And that's exactly why the anti-abortionists have chosen such an image. This is, frankly, untypical, and specially designed to be emotive.
I would like to know where this picture came from? And if they can vouch for it's authenticity, at just how many months gestation did this procedure take place?
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