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What Do You Think Went Through The Minds Of Those 800 Generals Today?...With A Drunk Rapist And Racist Fox News Host Like Pete Hegseth Lecturing Them?

Questerr said:
This but also keeping in mind that the military’s way of determining fat (BMI) is wildly inaccurate and hot garbage at actually determining if someone is fat.
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hooligan said:
Oh, I know.

Back after I graduated from jump school, I was 26 years old, 6'4" and 230lbs and regularly scoring 280+ on my PT test. That had me teetering on the edge of the "fat boy" program, which was ridiculous, at a solidly "overweight" BMI of 27.5. BMI assumes everyone is some sort of pencil-neck, evidently.
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1,000%. The standards were set decades ago when diets and muscle mass were different, by a worldview that assumed everyone was basically the same...... and every leader in this stupid zero-tolerance world has been afraid to change them to something smarter out of fear of "looking soft on underperformers".

We had people who were high first class PFTer's who were told they were Obese, and people who couldn't pick up a F'ing ruck and move to contact to save their lives who were supposedly "in shape". I had to starve myself and pull all the water out of my body every time to make sure I passed - and could max out pullups and abs, and generally score a 65-75 on the run.... and that's with starving myself and pulling all the water out of my body (because we held the events on the same day, and did weigh in's / taping after the PFT.... an event which caused your abdominal muscles to swell......

I hated it. Have high physical standards for achievement, and enforce them.
 
Queen Margo said:
Oh, but my husband has and I remember him having to lose weight to get promoted. They "had standards".
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Your post indicated a low opinion of more than just personal appearance/military bearing standards.

As for your implication of relaxed standards for fitness, you’re flat wrong. Fitness standards, including body fat, have not been adjusted except as part of drawdown (so-called “right sizing”) measures when body fat measurement standards have been tightened to reduce the ranks following the end of large scale campaigns requiring increased force manning levels.
 
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Sandy Shanks said:
Trump is a draft-dodger. He hates the military. Republicans made him President, so today Trump is allowed to use the military as pawns and cause an idiot like Hegseth to lecture generals.
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Republicans are forced to agree. No response from them.

Republicans try to avoid Trump as much as they can. Republicans in Congress say little or nothing about what Trump does and says.
 
BirdinHand said:
Then let’s just cut the bullshit, shall we?

A draft dodger and his drunken puppet rounded up thousands of years of military expertise and gathered them in a room so they could put on a performance equivalent of a bad Time Share Condo lecture/conference. Likely with the hopes that some of them leave service to be replaced by others more “loyal” to this administration and its whims.

And the draft dodger is the one calling the shots.

Someone that chickened out and didn’t serve this country when he was young and the time was there for him TO serve. When others DID answer the call. (And now he and his Congress are screwing with their benefits, healthcare, etc)

The same man that stands in military cemeteries and snaps photos, has our military bend their knees and roll out a red carpet for Putin, has our Guard members picking up trash and “deployed” in American cities, and spent millions on a pathetic parade for his birthday.

Everything he’s doing with regards to our military is shameful. Absolutely, positively shameful.

Because he’s a gross, self-centered, demented old man driven by his own ego and narcissism. And he doesn’t care about our service members, military readiness, etc. Not one iota.
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Please DO NOT call Donald Trump a "draft dodger".

I worked with American draft dodgers in the 60's and 70's. What they did took more guts than bribing a doctor to have him claim "bone spurs".

Courage and sense of right and wrong drove these men to leave their homes and families for a "cause", to make a statement that the Vietnam war was wrong! They tried to make a better life for themselves and their families...in a foreign country!

When has Trump ever given up anything for a cause other than his own appetite for glittery shit?
 
Sandy Shanks said:
Republicans try to avoid Trump as much as they can. Republicans in Congress say little or nothing about what Trump does and says.
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House Speaker Mike Johnson defended furloughed government workers as the White House budget office [Trump] has warned of layoffs amid the government shutdown.

Republicans in Congress seem to think Trump is not responsible for what the White House does.
 
RIP U.S. Democracy said:
Fat Man and Little Boy ended a war.

These two deranged ****s will start wars.
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Fat Man and Little Boy ended the war.

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If you guys think comparing them to nuclear bombs is appropriate, I never knew you had so much respect for them.
 
RIP U.S. Democracy said:
Reading comprehension is one among many of your weaknesses.
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I comprehend just fine. Those nukes most certainly got the job done and ended the Japanese attack on America during WWII.

How is comparing them to Fat Man and Little Boy not a compliment? Might not been meant as one, but it was. Were the generals really that stupid, or is this another media lying day?
 
Lord of Planar said:
I comprehend just fine. Those nukes most certainly got the job done and ended the Japanese attack on America during WWII.

How is comparing them to Fat Man and Little Boy not a compliment? Might not been meant as one, but it was. Were the generals really that stupid, or is this another media lying day?
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Look up "ridicule" and "mockery" in the dictionary.

Nobody intelligent who sees that post thinks it's a compliment.
 
RIP U.S. Democracy said:
Look up "ridicule" and "mockery" in the dictionary.

Nobody intelligent who sees that post thinks it's a compliment.
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It's a new on on me to ridicule and mock someone using a great achievement.
 
Common Sense 1 said:

Hegseth Announces War Department Reforms in Sweeping Speech to Top Military Brass​


Secretary of War Pete Hegseth today announced a series of new directives aimed at strengthening the War Department's people and culture during an in-person speech in Quantico, Virginia, to the U.S. military's most senior leaders.

"Good morning, and welcome to the War Department, because the Department of Defense is over," Hegseth said, noting the recent rebranding of the department emphasizes the military's requirement to ensure peace by preparing for war, and that the American people deserve a military that will win any war it chooses or that's thrust upon it.

"The topic today is about the nature of ourselves because no plan, no program, no reform [and] no formation will ultimately succeed unless we have the right people and the right culture at the Department of War," Hegseth told the group.

He added that, in his eight months on the job, he has learned the best way to take care of troops is to give them good leaders committed to the War Department's warfighting culture.
"Not perfect leaders [but] good leaders; competent, qualified, professional, agile, aggressive, innovative, risk-taking, apolitical [and] faithful to their oath and to the Constitution," Hegseth emphasized.

Stating that the military has been forced to focus on the wrong things by misguided politicians for too long, Hegseth said that he's made it his own mission to uproot the obvious distractions that have made the War Department less lethal in past years.

"The new War Department's golden rule is this: do unto your unit as you would have done unto your own child's unit. … Standards must be uniform, gender-neutral and high. If not, they aren't standards, they're just suggestions," Hegseth said.
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That's funny, considering Hegseth was forced to resign from the Army over Racist tattoos and behavior. An act he called insulting.
 
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