what do you predict will happen to Congress in 2020?

[MAGAnificent]

He cut rich people's taxes Robert.

I am not rich. I am middle class and my taxes were cut. The left wing dishonesty regarding tax cuts is astonishing. There have been four major tax cuts in my lifetime. The four presidents involved have been JFK, Reagan, Bush(W), and Trump. All of those tax cuts applied to all who actually paid taxes. Yet everytime the left dishonestly insists that taxes were only cut for the rich. In your world is everyone above the federal poverty level rich? Or do you just harbor an unhealthy level of envy that there are Americans who earn more then you do?

He's done nothing for jobs.

Your own article destroys your claim that He's done nothing for jobs.

He's deflecting everybody with NK etc: he's done nothing but stir the pot there too.

Really? I only hear him mention North Korea if the insane fat boy (Kim Jung Un) is mentioned on the news. At least he is not getting played by North Korea like previous presidents, democrats and republicans who were so anxious to get an agreement on paper to flash in front of the press that they did not think about enforcement.

He's done - nothing. But - he DID get impeached!

Not until Nasty Nancy turns the articles of impeachment over to the Senate.

 

[MrWonka]

We republicans plan to parade to the voting booth and parade back with songs, mirth and drink and food.

Yeah, but the good news is they aren't making any more of you. In the last four years a bout a million older Trump supporters passed away. Meanwhile a million younger liberal voters turned 18, and another million or so that didn't like Clinton and voted another way or stayed home won't make that mistake again.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I prefer to advocate for change.

Advocate all you like if it rocks your boat. However the reality is that only the states have the power to abolish the electoral college through a constitutional amendment. 38 states would have to approve. I think that even you can work out it's simply not going to happen. 38 states will never give up that much power. Perhaps your real issue is that you never liked the concept of "United States of America". You want one big centralized government controlling everything. That's why I suggested that you should move. You are certainly not happy here.

 

[Moderate Right]

I thought Trump was suppose to be something different?(LOL)


Now, conservatives even believe in what Michael Moore thinks? Man, I have seen everything!




I see... so you now believe in polls?(LOL)

Right back at you.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I want no voter - no party - no candidate to have any advantage. That is the point.

That's intellectual dishonesty at it's worst. You quite clearly want party advantage. If you truly were a university professor then you are intelligent enough to work out which party would hold the advantage in a popular vote election. That's why you are so rabidly against the electoral college. it gives both sides a roughly equal shot as the candidates have to appeal to all regions of the nation rather then pockets of densely populated cities.

Taking away the GOP advantage does not then give it to anyone. It simply removes it.

That's an astonishing claim considering that all through the 2016 campaign, your soulmates assumed a vast electoral college advantage for the hildabeast. The common chants were : "Trump cannot win....look at the states Hillary starts out with." and "Get used to the term: "Madame President Hillary" If the electoral college was a built in advantage for republicans, Barack "Hussein" Obama" and "Bill Clinton" would never have been elected. We are quite aware that you are deeply butthurt over the results of the 2016 election, however the bull**** that you are tossing is not helping your argument. And your party actively seeks an electoral college advantage. That's what the left wing fight against Trump securing our southern borders is all about. The democrat party for instance changed the voting demographics in California through illegal immigration to the point where it turned from a red state to a blue state. They intend to repeat that success in other southwestern states. Texas is their biggest target. My point is that your party is fine with electoral college advantage as long as they think they can gain the advantage permanently.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Five times the EC has overruled the vote of the people and five times a winning Democratic candidate then lost in the EC.

I would distinctly label that as ad advantage. In addition, the formula today consistently benefits small states which vote Republican as any examination of the last elections voting results will tell you.

When was the last time a Democratic presidential candidate won Wyoming or North Dakota or South Dakota or Montana or any of those states with but one or two Representatives but they have three or four electoral votes?

Yes, the Republicans know the EC gives them a built in advantage and they will not give that up until it turns on them in some future election.

The electoral college has not overruled the will of the people.....not even once much less 5 times. How many times do you have to be told that we are a union of 50 states that still maintain a given level of sovereignity? Your wish is for the popular vote to overrule the will of the people. If the will of the people preferred a popular vote only system of electing presidents, we would not still be on the electoral college after 243 years. You are insisting that a union of 50 states acts as one big collective merely because you are butthurt over the results of the 2016 election. If I were a librul democrat, I would not waste time whining about a 243 year old system of electing presidents. I would start thinking about the next election.

 

[Luther]

The electoral college has not overruled the will of the people.....not even once much less 5 times. How many times do you have to be told that we are a union of 50 states that still maintain a given level of sovereignity? Your wish is for the popular vote to overrule the will of the people. If the will of the people preferred a popular vote only system of electing presidents, we would not still be on the electoral college after 243 years. You are insisting that a union of 50 states acts as one big collective merely because you are butthurt over the results of the 2016 election. If I were a librul democrat, I would not waste time whining about a 243 year old system of electing presidents. I would start thinking about the next election.

I would start thinking about the next election.

I would also start thinking on just how close the last election really was.

 

[antiquity]

No, your story is based on one picture of a black panther standing outside a building holding a billy club. It was precisely one incident, and there were no violent encounters.

So here’s the question: did somebody lie to you, or did you knowingly lie?

Edit: as I said to antiquity, I have no interest in where you move the goal posts to.

Operative in North Carolina congressional race arrested in ‘ballot harvesting’ case.

I’m not interested in where you move the goal posts to.

Funny how you claim one story based one one picture is irrelevant:2wave: but go ahead and pick one story and claim the goal post moved...:2wave:

 

[antiquity]

I would also start thinking on just how close the last election really was.

Unless you are trying to used new math...304 to 227 is not close.

 

[Cardinal]

Funny how you claim one story based one one picture is irrelevant:2wave: but go ahead and pick one story and claim the goal post moved...:2wave:

As I said, I’m not interested in where you move the goal posts to.

 

[Cardinal]

LOL. Oh yes there is, not only is Trump rolling in the cash big time due to the impeachment but several swing state polls are swinging toward Trump. Even Michael Moore is predicting a Trump victory, with even more more popular votes for the Dems than what Hillary had. We had polls on Dec 17 which showed Trump beating every Dem candidate, and that's just the national average.

If you were to measure impeachment support exclusively by a map of the electoral college, Democrats are winning. There’s no evidence that impeachment has harmed Democrats.

 

[haymarket]

How did they intervene with you?

If you read the various intelligence reports and the Mueller report you will see that the Russian interference was widespread and very thorough.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume2.pdf

 

[haymarket]

Advocate all you like if it rocks your boat. However the reality is that only the states have the power to abolish the electoral college through a constitutional amendment. 38 states would have to approve. I think that even you can work out it's simply not going to happen. 38 states will never give up that much power. Perhaps your real issue is that you never liked the concept of "United States of America". You want one big centralized government controlling everything. That's why I suggested that you should move. You are certainly not happy here.

I already spoke to your concern. What about it so baffled you that you are forced to repeat what has alwaredy been explained to you?

 

[haymarket]

The electoral college has not overruled the will of the people.....not even once much less 5 times. How many times do you have to be told that we are a union of 50 states that still maintain a given level of sovereignity? Your wish is for the popular vote to overrule the will of the people. If the will of the people preferred a popular vote only system of electing presidents, we would not still be on the electoral college after 243 years. You are insisting that a union of 50 states acts as one big collective merely because you are butthurt over the results of the 2016 election. If I were a librul democrat, I would not waste time whining about a 243 year old system of electing presidents. I would start thinking about the next election.

Five times the American expressed their will and cast their votes in favor of one particular candidate only to have that will overrode by the Electoral College. I would strongly advise you to get hold of a good American History book and educate yourself.

 

[haymarket]

That's intellectual dishonesty at it's worst. You quite clearly want party advantage. If you truly were a university professor then you are intelligent enough to work out which party would hold the advantage in a popular vote election. That's why you are so rabidly against the electoral college. it gives both sides a roughly equal shot as the candidates have to appeal to all regions of the nation rather then pockets of densely populated cities.



That's an astonishing claim considering that all through the 2016 campaign, your soulmates assumed a vast electoral college advantage for the hildabeast. The common chants were : "Trump cannot win....look at the states Hillary starts out with." and "Get used to the term: "Madame President Hillary" If the electoral college was a built in advantage for republicans, Barack "Hussein" Obama" and "Bill Clinton" would never have been elected. We are quite aware that you are deeply butthurt over the results of the 2016 election, however the bull**** that you are tossing is not helping your argument. And your party actively seeks an electoral college advantage. That's what the left wing fight against Trump securing our southern borders is all about. The democrat party for instance changed the voting demographics in California through illegal immigration to the point where it turned from a red state to a blue state. They intend to repeat that success in other southwestern states. Texas is their biggest target. My point is that your party is fine with electoral college advantage as long as they think they can gain the advantage permanently.

The EC has five times in our history - 1824, 1876, 1888. 2000, 2016- overruled the popular choice and will of the American people. Every single one of those five times it has been the Democratic candidate who finishes first in the popular vote but is overruled by the Electoral College and House of Representatives.

Check the election results and you will see the smallest states tend to go to the Republicans and thereby distort the vote beyond their true popular vote numbers. This built in unfair advantage is something Republicans will never give up until it bites them in their collective asses.

 

[Moderate Right]

If you were to measure impeachment support exclusively by a map of the electoral college, Democrats are winning. There’s no evidence that impeachment has harmed Democrats.

LOL. Keep on thinking that. If nothing else, how much money has flowed into the Democratic coffers vs the Republican coffers since impeachment? It' not even close.

 

[Cardinal]

LOL. Keep on thinking that. If nothing else, how much money has flowed into the Democratic coffers vs the Republican coffers since impeachment? It' not even close.

That's a different topic. Per impeachment itself, looking at the election map impeachment itself clearly hasn't impacted Democrats.

 

[Moderate Right]

That's a different topic. Per impeachment itself, looking at the election map impeachment itself clearly hasn't impacted Democrats.

Well, a poll on Dec 17th showed Trump beating every Democratic nominee. Hey, while we're at it, what do you think of Trump just being voted American's most admired man??? Sounds like an election win to me.


Trump, Obama tie for Americans''' most-admired man

 

[Robertinfremont]

Yeah, but the good news is they aren't making any more of you. In the last four years a bout a million older Trump supporters passed away. Meanwhile a million younger liberal voters turned 18, and another million or so that didn't like Clinton and voted another way or stayed home won't make that mistake again.

Birth rates are seized? Do we have too many people? Liberal does not accurately describe the Democratic party voters. They are far more authoritarian. Clinton was a mess. She couldn't stand up to the efforts just to run for president.

 

[Robertinfremont]

That's intellectual dishonesty at it's worst. You quite clearly want party advantage. If you truly were a university professor then you are intelligent enough to work out which party would hold the advantage in a popular vote election. That's why you are so rabidly against the electoral college. it gives both sides a roughly equal shot as the candidates have to appeal to all regions of the nation rather then pockets of densely populated cities.



That's an astonishing claim considering that all through the 2016 campaign, your soulmates assumed a vast electoral college advantage for the hildabeast. The common chants were : "Trump cannot win....look at the states Hillary starts out with." and "Get used to the term: "Madame President Hillary" If the electoral college was a built in advantage for republicans, Barack "Hussein" Obama" and "Bill Clinton" would never have been elected. We are quite aware that you are deeply butthurt over the results of the 2016 election, however the bull**** that you are tossing is not helping your argument. And your party actively seeks an electoral college advantage. That's what the left wing fight against Trump securing our southern borders is all about. The democrat party for instance changed the voting demographics in California through illegal immigration to the point where it turned from a red state to a blue state. They intend to repeat that success in other southwestern states. Texas is their biggest target. My point is that your party is fine with electoral college advantage as long as they think they can gain the advantage permanently.

That sums it up nicely. He will not accept it, but dozens, perhaps more, forum posters will accept it. It is true is why.

 

[Perotista]

what do you predict will happen to Congress in 2020?

I made a mistake in voting. I meant to choose option 3 but option 2 is accurate as well: Rs will re-take the House

I think this will happen mostly due to the impeachment circus

I do monthly forecasts on this site as to the 2020 election. That is my predictions.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/blog...nd-presidency-forecast-1-december-2019-a.html

Now if you tune in on 1 January, I will have my update to the one above. These are based on numbers, not of the heart or the mind nor of wants and desires. Just plain numbers as they stand at the beginning of each month.

 

[Crosscheck]

I do monthly forecasts on this site as to the 2020 election. That is my predictions.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/blog...nd-presidency-forecast-1-december-2019-a.html

Now if you tune in on 1 January, I will have my update to the one above. These are based on numbers, not of the heart or the mind nor of wants and desires. Just plain numbers as they stand at the beginning of each month.

Well written .

Of course we still have another 11 months till election and a lot can happen.

As for the presidential election I just say it is still far to early to feel confident in predicting either way. There are some posters here who are so certain. I asked one since he was so convinced Trump had this in the bag would he be willing to bet money on it and if Trump lost he would donate that money to Debate Politics. Guess what? He never replied to me......

 

[MrWonka]

Birth rates are seized?

No, you just can't brainwash young open minded people as easily as you could 40 years ago.

Liberal does not accurately describe the Democratic party voters. They are far more authoritarian.

You don't seem to know what either of those words mean.

Clinton was a mess. She couldn't stand up to the efforts just to run for president.

Yet you lost the popular vote to her and are currently trailing the top four Democratic candidates in the three states you have to win in order to have any hope of winning the presidency. Even Georgia, Texas and North Carolina are up for grabs this go around, and it's looking more and more like Arizona is beyond saving.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I would also start thinking on just how close the last election really was.

Was not that close. It was actually an electoral college landslide.

 

[MAGAnificent]

If you were to measure impeachment support exclusively by a map of the electoral college, Democrats are winning. There’s no evidence that impeachment has harmed Democrats.

Still trusting those opinion polls that served you so well in 2016?