Campbell
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60 years ago 80%-90% of all the food consumed in this country was prepared and cooked at home. Much of it was grown there too. Now a relatively few people farm and 80%-90% of food consumed is either in a restaurant or passed through a 30" opening in a restaurant wall. Big corporations produce or oversee others who produce nearly everything we eat. They have a couple of major goals. Make the food taste better and go to the lowest bottom line cost.
Do you think there is any connection from that to obesity being declared a disease in America?
60 years ago 80%-90% of all the food consumed in this country was prepared and cooked at home. Much of it was grown there too. Now a relatively few people farm and 80%-90% of food consumed is either in a restaurant or passed through a 30" opening in a restaurant wall. Big corporations produce or oversee others who produce nearly everything we eat. They have a couple of major goals. Make the food taste better and go to the lowest bottom line cost.
Do you think there is any connection from that to obesity being declared a disease in America?
60 years ago 80%-90% of all the food consumed in this country was prepared and cooked at home. Much of it was grown there too. Now a relatively few people farm and 80%-90% of food consumed is either in a restaurant or passed through a 30" opening in a restaurant wall. Big corporations produce or oversee others who produce nearly everything we eat. They have a couple of major goals. Make the food taste better and go to the lowest bottom line cost.
Do you think there is any connection from that to obesity being declared a disease in America?
I had smoked brisket, Elgin jalapeno sausage, green bean casserole, maple baked beans, ...followed by a nice zucchini bread and a cocktail.
yes, there's a connection... we moved away from an agrarian society, but we didn't drop the eating habits thereof.
folks eat a ton of calories, and then proceed to sit on their ass all day and not burn them off.
the workers on those evil corporate farms do the hard work for you
Two points:
1. I find your '80%-90% of food consumed is either in a restaurant or passed through a 30" opening in a restaurant wall' somewhat specious, do you have support. It seems odd that only 10-20% of the food consumed in this country is sold at grocery stores notwithstanding home gardeners and such...
2. If true it shoots a hole in the 'lower brackets doing worse' meme as they apparently are doing just fine if they can afford to eat out rather than purchase/grow their food unless your argument is restaurant food is cheaper...
Chicken fried steak w/gravy, mashed potatoes and green beans. I question your assesment of 80-90% of folks not preparing meals at home. That may be true if both must work full-time, but if you eat restaurant prepared meals that often it seems a bit self defeating, as the expense of eating out (or even carry-out) makes that economically suspect unless both have very high paying jobs. We eat out less than twice per week and that usually involves a Subway sandwich each or a "family size" order of fried chicken and small sides.
The cost of fully prepared foods, more than the nutritional difference, makes that basically mandatory for us. Relatively small amounts of meat, poultry or fish can be added to macaroni and cheese, rice, tortillas, pasta or potatoes and a can of vegetables to make a decent and filling meal for two. Frozen grocery store pizza can be had for $1.25 per serving (10-11 oz. Totinos party pizza) and buying frozen fish filets (in the large bag) is also fairly cheap.
The reason for the rise in obesity is simply folks consuming more calories than they use in the course of the day, the excess is naturally stored as fat. Where a meal is prepared makes more difference in its cost than in its caloric content.
Steak with squash simmered in onions and garlic chives. Everything but the steak was home grown. No pesticides, suicides or chemical fertilizers. No dessert. Two beers. I could go on and expound on the virtues of dried horse poop for a garden, but the fat folks would mainly be interested in eating the horses to start with. Being fat isn't a disease, but since we're redefining everything, why not include fat, mean, ugly, homicidal and all the rest as diseases too?
Hell....I didn't declare it a disease. I'm 6' 1", weigh 188 pounds. My wife is 5' 5" and weighs 120. All anybody has to do to lose weight is back away from the feed trough once or twice a day.
it does take a bit more work than that, to be fair. i lost most of my weight by 2008, and i just got back from a pretty decent workout in order to keep it off. i do this almost every day.
quitting smoking was far easier, in my opinion. i was a nonsmoker instantly. the food lifestyle change will require daily work for the rest of my life. is it worth it, though? yes.
Actually if an individual loses that initial weight and exercises for an hour a day the secret is still backing away from the trough.
Hell....I didn't declare it a disease. I'm 6' 1", weigh 188 pounds. My wife is 5' 5" and weighs 120. All anybody has to do to lose weight is back away from the feed trough once or twice a day.
i'd say that the secrets are :
write down everything you eat
write down every exercise that you do
choose healthy options whenever possible
occasionally have a slip meal, but exercise enough to cover it, and budget other meals
keep moving. take the stairs, park the car far away from the door, and walk.
it's not as simple as "backing away from the trough," and that particular way of putting it is counterproductive.
For dinner tonight I had a can of minestrone soup and a lettuce and tomato and cheese sandwich that I made myself.
I have not eaten red meat ( mammals) since I was 20 years old and I am now sixty one.
I weigh the same as I did in my senior year in high school ( 148) and I feel great.
I am by no means a vegan. I regularly eat chicken and fish including almost any sea food ( never fried). I rarely eat out and I prepare all my own food.
I believe that the bane of the American diet is animal fat and preserved meats.
I also eat a lot of vegetables and about a pound of fruit everyday, mostly melons; honey dew, cantaloupe and water melon with grapes and berries sweetened with white sugar.
I eat a lot of sugar and I love ice cream. I quit smoking at fifty and quit caffeine at fifty five.
I'm not saying that I have any magic formula , but it works well for me. I am almost never sick and I have no chronic ailments beyond some mild arthritis in my hands.
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