What changed? People.

[Antiwar]

You answered your own question. If you have to say history is irrelevant to justify your position then there is no validity to it.

With respect:

The fact that violence existed before guns is irrelevant.

 

[Chillfolks]

Never combine John Lennon heavy in the rotation with copious amounts of mescaline.

One too many Carradine closet moments

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[Chillfolks]

With respect:

The fact that violence existed before guns is irrelevant.

Put Pete back in the boat. Repeating that you have to ignore history to hold your position only makes you look foolish. Whenever you’re interested in talking about reality and holding a debate acknowledging human history and how it has brought us to we’re we are let me know until then back to my original reply to you.

Go get ‘em Sport. Chase those big bad windmills you tough guy.

 

[Antiwar]

Put Pete back in the boat. Repeating that you have to ignore history to hold your position only makes you look foolish. Whenever you’re interested in talking about reality and holding a debate acknowledging human history and how it has brought us to we’re we are let me know until then back to my original reply to you.

Go get ‘em Sport. Chase those big bad windmills you tough guy.

With respect:

Your reactions are strange.

 

[Chillfolks]

With respect:

Your reactions are strange.

What you are experiencing is a moment of self realization, a “spot it you got it” situation. Grow from it and become a better person you have that option.

 

[poppopfox]

Those assessments are "interpreted".

Personality assessments involve the scoring, administration, and interpretation of “empirically supported measures of personality traits and styles” to inform and structure interventions, increase the accuracy of behavioral prediction in various context and settings, and refine the clinical diagnosis.

Will objectivity be mandated?

Would you like to take the MMPI? I can score it then you can find out for yourself how objective it is.

 

[RF667799]

Personality assessments involve the scoring, administration, and interpretation of “empirically supported measures of personality traits and styles” to inform and structure interventions, increase the accuracy of behavioral prediction in various context and settings, and refine the clinical diagnosis.

Would you like to take the MMPI? I can score it then you can find out for yourself how objective it is.

None of that refutes that the assessments are interpreted subjectively.

 

[Antiwar]

What you are experiencing is a moment of self realization, a “spot it you got it” situation. Grow from it and become a better person you have that option.

With respect:

Do you write fortune cookie phrases for fun?

Eff guns. Stop making them. Disable them. Melt them down. They're horrible barbaric "tools."

 

[VanceMack]

This guy pretty much nails it. Cause - > effect. We're reaping what we've sown, and it isn't guns that changed, it is people.


"Chisholm’s office gave a deferred prosecution to a convicted drug dealer. After his release, reports the Mail, that dealer fatally injected a 26-year-old woman with heroin and then tried to hide her body. The man, Darrell Brooks, was caught but released on $1,000 bond. Within a few weeks, Brooks drove through a Christmas parade, killing five people. He previously had been convicted of a felony for running over the mother of his children."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...sedgntp&cvid=61df9d8a885c4b7187483ee0d7ba5ea0

You can tell by the results of the thread that the anti-gun left truly has no interest in the what or the why...they are only committed to their cause.

I have pointed out that contrary to the media hype, mass shootings and especially mass shootings in schools are extremely rare. That doesnt minimize the impact of every incident, it just addresses the facts. Prior to 2012, we averaged under 2 mass shootings a year, and mass shootings at schools only had a .0000000000187% likelihood of occurring at any given school on any given day.

Something has happened to our society, whether people want to admit it or not. Society's morals have taken a nosedive. Lawful gun ownership hasnt changed. Types of weapons have not changed. Availability of weapons has not changed. the problem literally has NOTHING to do with firearms, any more so than the problem with drinking and driving is caused by cars.

If anyone was actually serious about targeting the PROBLEMS, we might see corrective change. Since they arent, the problems arent likely to fix themselves.

 

[SMTA]

With respect:

"Nuclear bombs are just tools. Torture devices are just tools." That "just tools" bit ...

Internet Morons are tools too

 

[Antiwar]

Internet Morons are tools too

With respect:

Have more self-respect.

 

[SMTA]

With respect:

Do you write fortune cookie phrases for fun?

Eff guns. Stop making them. Disable them. Melt them down. They're horrible barbaric "tools."

I built my first AR15 4 weeks ago
Awesome gun

 

[Antiwar]

I built my first AR15 4 weeks ago
Awesome gun

With respect:

Groovy.

 

[SMTA]

With respect:

Have more self-respect.

Not for internet Morons

 

[Antiwar]

Not for internet Morons

With respect:

I'm not Mormon.

 

[Chillfolks]

I built my first AR15 4 weeks ago
Awesome gun

Did you use a 80% or build from finished parts? Either way is a great learning experience.

 

[Rucker61]

Personality assessments involve the scoring, administration, and interpretation of “empirically supported measures of personality traits and styles” to inform and structure interventions, increase the accuracy of behavioral prediction in various context and settings, and refine the clinical diagnosis.

Would you like to take the MMPI? I can score it then you can find out for yourself how objective it is.

Is this test sufficient?

 

[Daddyo]

With respect:

Humanity could do much better without barbaric "tools."

Here is the major malfunction. Humanity will not do better. Without a means to repel those individuals who are simply not capable of living in a civilized society this country would decend into chaos.

Want a snap shot? Just look at communities run by liberals. Guns banned. Bail reformed. Crime out of control. Citizens under seige in the worst areas.

Human kind is not ready for Star Trek values. The quest to better ones self without reward is still a pipe dream.

In my lifetime without those barbaric tools I would either be dead or alive but without a business to feed my family. Guns saved both IMO.

 

[noonereal]

Wow! What a moronic meme!

 

[Daisy]

Wow! What a moronic meme!

 

[Goshin]

You can tell by the results of the thread that the anti-gun left truly has no interest in the what or the why...they are only committed to their cause.

I have pointed out that contrary to the media hype, mass shootings and especially mass shootings in schools are extremely rare. That doesnt minimize the impact of every incident, it just addresses the facts. Prior to 2012, we averaged under 2 mass shootings a year, and mass shootings at schools only had a .0000000000187% likelihood of occurring at any given school on any given day.

Something has happened to our society, whether people want to admit it or not. Society's morals have taken a nosedive. Lawful gun ownership hasnt changed. Types of weapons have not changed. Availability of weapons has not changed. the problem literally has NOTHING to do with firearms, any more so than the problem with drinking and driving is caused by cars.

If anyone was actually serious about targeting the PROBLEMS, we might see corrective change. Since they arent, the problems arent likely to fix themselves.

Oh I've noticed. There's a distinct lack of interest in discussing the real root causes of violence and mass shootings, especially among the most vocal anti-gun crowd.

Part of the reason is it is more complicated and messy to address, and the answers involve deep-seated issues not easily changed. Our coddling of criminals and crazies, our lack of a moral foundation in society and loss of discipline among children. Things the left tends not to want to think about, let alone discuss.

 

[zsu2357]

With respect:

Eff guns. Eff people's fascination with barbaric weapons. Eff gun illogic. America is about guns because America is about barbarism. They were used to steal the land, enslave Africans, and they're used to dominate Earth militarily. Eff guns. Melt the pieces of down.

If we were all about barbarism wouldn't ax's and large knives and maces etc. be the way to go? I mean everyone just knows it better to have your head bashed in or loped off or just gutted out in general. And militarily Rome held a pretty fair sized chuck of the world with the barbaric weapons I listed and slaves and yes some African. Hell even African countries had African slaves so we didn't have a monopoly on it (different time frame) since England had them also for one.

 

[zsu2357]

Well, society, needing more guns than people is part of the problem, especially if our attitude is "we shouldn't bother because it's too hard".

Why would we bother? And don't say "for the children", since that is getting real old in a hurry or rather has gotten old quite awhile back. You would punish every gun owner for the actions of some loser idiots. Why aren't we punishing all car owners for the act of a few?

 

[Daddyo]

With respect:

Incorrect, and frankly, just another cliche line. Think deeper. If you can't or won't, then let others do the thinking.

I'm not a fan, but has no one seen Star Trek?

Lol I just used star trek in my last post.

So you are basing your post on a Sci fi series? This is some seriously funny stuff. You are living in fantasy land lol.

This is the shit we have to debate? People who want to disarm me believe in star trek. The idea that man will suddenly shed envy, greed, lust, wrath, and sloth. You are joking right?

Our founders knew the evils of man. History is loaded with example after example of man enslaving man. Daily news full of murderous monsters. Just tons of pathetic disgusting human filth. And you want my gun lol. Right now I reserve the right to protect myself and family. If guns are eliminated I am nothing more than a helpless victim to the first evil piece of crap that trys something. Basically a helpless victim like you.

 

[zsu2357]

Yes? What do we do about the excess murderers?

Let them back out on the street so they can repeat it.