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What are the feeling on a Third Party? I've been seeing movement behind the "Forward" party.

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Who's got information on the "Forward Party". I think Andrew Yang was involved with the founding along with Christine Todd Whitman.
 
Who would they caucus with in Congress?
 
Neither available party represents me very well, but I want the Republican party to not only lose but, at this point, to also go extinct. Ideally, there would be a real progressive party and we could hand the current Republicans the corporatist Democratic party to crash like a teenager's family hand me down car. That's not likely to happen, though. The way it stands, Democrats are the only viable way to push back against the far right. I don't see that dynamic changing significantly within my lifetime.
 
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Who would they caucus with in Congress?
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According to the little they tell you about themselves, nobody I would assume since they disagree with the paths both have taken. However as they say, politics makes strange bedfellows.
So far what I've seen is not giving me much to like or dislike, except the lack of information.
I've been told it's intentional because they do not want to alienate any potential supporters. I need more than that.
 
Helix said:
Neither available party represents me very well, but I want the Republican party to not only lose but, at this point, to also go extinct. Ideally, there would be a real progressive party and we could hand the current Republicans the corporatist Democratic party to crash like a teenager's family hand me down car. That's not likely to happen, though. The way it stands, Democrats are the only viable way to push back against the far right. I don't see that dynamic changing significantly within my lifetime.
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WELL! I see the same thing except I want the Democrats gone, particularly Progressives. Just saying. I think the only chance the democrat party has is to separate themselves from the far left.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Who's got information on the "Forward Party". I think Andrew Yang was involved with the founding along with Christine Todd Whitman.
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Personally, with party politics having become so tribal, I think more in terms of populist movements. I am not a fan of modern establishment politics. As a conservative, I had been disappointed with the direction or lack of direction of the Republican Party in the last nearly three decades. It had become nearly a middle of the road go along to get along party and was not representing its own platform. Starting around 2010, a populist conservative movement did pop up under the auspices of the Tea Party. Ultimately in 2016, Trump tapped into that movement, and at least in Trump's second term, the Republican party is largely on board.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Yeah, I've seen the website, woefully short on information.
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But overflowing with stupid anime art and teenage angst.
We HAD a Yang fan here, he even named himself $1000
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All his posts sounded alike.
"Secure the bag!"
"Bag secured! $1000 for every man and woman, go Yang!!!"

Sorry, living under a WWE administration and then switching to a Pokemon administration? Neither are the selling points people wish they were.
 
Integrityrespec said:
WELL! I see the same thing except I want the Democrats gone, particularly Progressives. Just saying. I think the only chance the democrat party has is to separate themselves from the far left.
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We aren't going to agree on that. It is what it is.
 
Integrityrespec said:
WELL! I see the same thing except I want the Democrats gone, particularly Progressives. Just saying. I think the only chance the democrat party has is to separate themselves from the far left.
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I feel you. I want all the MAGAs gone.

As in "absent".
 
Integrityrespec said:
WELL! I see the same thing except I want the Democrats gone, particularly Progressives. Just saying. I think the only chance the democrat party has is to separate themselves from the far left.
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Why would that make any difference if, as you say, you want the Democrats GONE?
Seems you view ALL Democrats as Far Left, which means you're a good little Trumper.
Stick with Trump, he's scratching your itch.
 
uplift your voice in the country and the workplace. Join DSA. All representatives come from the chapter and are elected by the chapters. The national org doesnt just shovel someone in your face.
 
Lethargic Aptitude said:
Political parties are sanctioned corruption and anti-democratic..
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It depends on if the party has democratic decision making. DSA doesnt rely on paid consultants because we dont need to. It is already bottom up. Each representative is an extension of the chapter and communicates with the chapter.
 
bomberfox said:
uplift your voice in the country and the workplace. Join DSA. All representatives come from the chapter and are elected by the chapters. The national org doesnt just shovel someone in your face.
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The folks who said "Yawn, not a real socialist" when Bernie was on the Dem ticket both times?
Naaah, pass.
DSA is content to just buttress the same folks who refuse to vote Dem even when Dems serve their interests.

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Notice how they’re the ones getting ****ed over after insisting they won’t vote for Democrats.
If your vote is your power and you throw it away, do you really get to complain when you lose power?
You do when you’re an entitled white kid.

Yeah I know there's more than just entitled white kids in the DSA, so what?
They're still just pulling up the ladders and yelling "Last man in before the door slams shut!" just like their white counterparts.
Entitlement is a helluva drug but in the face of multi-billion dollar funding for fascism, it's a slap in the face to people who actually
have a lot to lose.

Stephen Miller's family were Jewish refugees who escaped the Russian pogroms ofAntopol, a Jewish shtetl in the Pale of Settlement.
And he is a right wing master of the very same tactics, "Last Man In Before the Ladders are Pulled up".

The kids in the DSA had a chance to vote for Bernie in 2016 and in 2020...did they?
No, he was not a perfect Valentine so they didn't show up.
Don't give me the "DNC steamrollered him" bit either because they wouldn't have been able to if he'd had the numbers from the youth vote.

This last election, most people stayed home and didn't vote at all.
Seems the majority isn't concerned until the leopards eat their faces and it's not just the MAGA's being eaten.

We do not have a parliamentary coalition system of government here but there's still no reason why smaller groups can't ACT in coalition with one of the major parties.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
The folks who said "Yawn, not a real socialist" when Bernie was on the Dem ticket both times?
Naaah, pass.
DSA is content to just buttress the same folks who refuse to vote Dem even when Dems serve their interests.

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Notice how they’re the ones getting ****ed over after insisting they won’t vote for Democrats.
If your vote is your power and you throw it away, do you really get to complain when you lose power?
You do when you’re an entitled white kid.

Yeah I know there's more than just entitled white kids in the DSA, so what?
They're still just pulling up the ladders and yelling "Last man in before the door slams shut!" just like their white counterparts.
Entitlement is a helluva drug but in the face of multi-billion dollar funding for fascism, it's a slap in the face to people who actually
have a lot to lose.

Stephen Miller's family were Jewish refugees who escaped the Russian pogroms ofAntopol, a Jewish shtetl in the Pale of Settlement.
And he is a right wing master of the very same tactics, "Last Man In Before the Ladders are Pulled up".

The kids in the DSA had a chance to vote for Bernie in 2016 and in 2020...did they?
No, he was not a perfect Valentine so they didn't show up.
Don't give me the "DNC steamrollered him" bit either because they wouldn't have been able to if he'd had the numbers from the youth vote.

This last election, most people stayed home and didn't vote at all.
Seems the majority isn't concerned until the leopards eat their faces and it's not just the MAGA's being eaten.
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I voted. This is an alternative organization that i work with that has given me more opportunities to actually improve things than the heavily consultant influenced democratic party ever has. We are all concerned by MAGA and fight against it. Its just after all other attempts have failed this gives me a sense of accomplishment. If i dont get this sense of accomplishment im just going to spiral into deep depression.

I will always vote where it counts. This is extra.
 
bomberfox said:
I voted. This is an alternative organization that i work with.
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Love you Bomberfox but in the end, if fascism wins, we're all still going to be listening to the same people in the "detention centers" concentration camps when the net grows to
include "leftists, far leftists, radical far leftists, Democrats, independents, women who refuse to bear children, atheists, people of color, university professors who refuse to teach "Revised New History", native Americans, union members, anti-Trump conservatives and yes...JEWS"....the ones who refuse to bow to Bibi.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Love you Bomberfox but in the end, if fascism wins, we're all still going to be listening to the same people in the "detention centers" concentration camps when the net grows to
include "leftists, far leftists, radical far leftists, Democrats, independents, women who refuse to bear children, atheists, people of color, university professors who refuse to teach "Revised New History", native Americans, union members, anti-Trump conservatives and yes...JEWS"....the ones who refuse to bow to Bibi.
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I know that. This is extra that gives me opportunities. Im not insisting that people throw away their votes. Love ya too
 
Integrityrespec said:
Who's got information on the "Forward Party". I think Andrew Yang was involved with the founding along with Christine Todd Whitman.
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The replacement for the democrats will be tricky.

I like the idea of the left fracturing into dozens of parties.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
But overflowing with stupid anime art and teenage angst.
We HAD a Yang fan here, he even named himself $1000
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All his posts sounded alike.
"Secure the bag!"
"Bag secured! $1000 for every man and woman, go Yang!!!"

Sorry, living under a WWE administration and then switching to a Pokemon administration? Neither are the selling points people wish they were.
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Yeah Yang was a one point wonder. You need a lot more than that for president.
 
Helix said:
Neither available party represents me very well, but I want the Republican party to not only lose but, at this point, to also go extinct.
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And yet it's your party - the shameful democrats who are on the brink of extinction.

Into the shitcan of history - along side the Nazi Party and the Khmer Rouge.

Helix said:
Ideally, there would be a real progressive party and we could hand the current Republicans the corporatist Democratic party to crash like a teenager's family hand me down car. That's not likely to happen, though. The way it stands, Democrats are the only viable way to push back against the far right. I don't see that dynamic changing significantly within my lifetime.
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Peace and Freedom, the Green Party. Or just call it the National Socialist party.

The democrat name is toxic, but so are the ideals of Marxism that democrats and all of the left promotes.
 
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