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What Anti-Semitism Really Means[W:110]

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Your "logic" is simply more unsubstantiated claims on top of your original unsubstantiated claim.

AKA a **** sandwich.

Now you are CLAIMING I am a liberal.

I sm a libertarian in that I am opposed to many of the government's intrusions into the average American's life.

I am also a fiscal and military conservative.

So, wrong again.

Read the last sentence of my last ppst.

You just proved what I said.

Do you or do you not believe that politics should be oriented toward maximizing freedom? That is the definition of liberalism.
 
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Under the direct instructions of the Jews. It's as true as "Hitler killed people".

No, the Jews had no authority over the Romans. The Sanhedrin wanted Christ eliminated, sure enough, but the authority was Roman. We might want Hillary taken out of the Presidential race, but the authority to indict her rests with the DOJ. So, if it ever happens, it would be incorrect to say that the GOP indicted Hillary.
 
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More CLAIMS, zero support.


Ronald Reagan spoke of anti-semitism. Liberal?

The definition of liberal from the Oxford English Dictionary:

"favoring maximum individual liberty in political and social reform"

Ronald Reagan spoke many times of the need to protect freedom and the like; so yes, he was definitely a liberal.

No, the Jews had no authority over the Romans. The Sanhedrin wanted Christ eliminated, sure enough, but the authority was Roman. We might want Hillary taken out of the Presidential race, but the authority to indict her rests with the DOJ. So, if it ever happens, it would be incorrect to say that the GOP indicted Hillary.

Pilate expressly refused to condemn Jesus, and expressly permitted but did not authorize the Jews to have him executed ("see to it yourself", "I am innocent of this man's blood". And Jesus himself said that the Jews bore greater responsibility than Pilate did.

The analogy to Hillary is silly, because among other things she is probably guilty, and if she is punished it would be by the express order of the relevant authorities.

A better analogy would be to Terri Schiavo. Her husband successfully sought to have her executed, and the governor of Florida cowardly allowed it.
 
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the definition of liberal from the oxford english dictionary:

"favoring maximum individual liberty in political and social reform"

ronald reagan spoke many times of the need to protect freedom and the like; so yes, he was definitely a liberal.



Pilate expressly refused to condemn jesus, and expressly permitted but did not authorize the jews to have him executed ("see to it yourself", "i am innocent of this man's blood". And jesus himself said that the jews bore greater responsibility than pilate did.

The analogy to hillary is silly, because among other things she is probably guilty, and if she is punished it would be by the express order of the relevant authorities.

A better analogy would be to terri schiavo. Her husband successfully sought to have her executed, and the governor of florida cowardly allowed it.

omg....
 
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First, we need a clarification of terms. An anti-Semite is a goy, usually but not necessarily a Christian, who dares to utter any criticism, however slight, of the Jews. Another good definition is that an anti-Semite is a goy who is aware that the Jews hate his people.

Now, it's never really possible (or even desirable to the Jews) to eliminate "anti-semitism" because people will always slip up and forget to grovel when appropriate, such is the nature of political correctness. Of course, this actually benefits the Jewish victim hood racket, since it allows them (and their lackeys, dumb goy do most of the brunt work in enforcing Jew-worship) to create this sense of constant paranoia, as you are doing now.

This is a useful post Paleocon. A fine example of anti-semitism so that we all know what we are talking about.
 
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Pilate expressly refused to condemn Jesus, and expressly permitted but did not authorize the Jews to have him executed ("see to it yourself", "I am innocent of this man's blood". And Jesus himself said that the Jews bore greater responsibility than Pilate did.

The analogy to Hillary is silly, because among other things she is probably guilty, and if she is punished it would be by the express order of the relevant authorities.

A better analogy would be to Terri Schiavo. Her husband successfully sought to have her executed, and the governor of Florida cowardly allowed it.

No, Pilate may have found it more expeditious to execute Jesus in order to keep peace with the Sanhedrin, but the authority was still his. Jesus was tied by Romans, whipped and scourged by Romans, nailed to the cross by Romans, and speared in his side by Romans.
 
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Christianity by its very nature is "anti-semitic", because it calls for the Jews to cease to reject Christ, and embrace his truth.

But Christ and his mother and his disciples were Jews. I am sorry to be the one to inform you of this this very inconvenient truth but someone had to do it.
 
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You love gays and people who use birth control? As I remember, you believe both should be condemned to death.

Fair's fair. He believes they should be condemned to death for their own good.. I think he might call it 'tough love'.
 
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No, Pilate may have found it more expeditious to execute Jesus in order to keep peace with the Sanhedrin, but the authority was still his. Jesus was tied by Romans, whipped and scourged by Romans, nailed to the cross by Romans, and speared in his side by Romans.

You seem to be operating under the assumption that this was all done in accordance with the formalities of law. It was not, Pilate explicitly found Jesus to be innocent, and expressly declared that he was not sentencing him to death. Handing a man found guilty of no crime over to be executed by those with no authority to do so was certainly not a properly legal act on Pilate's part, but that doesn't change the fact that it happened.

But Christ and his mother and his disciples were Jews. I am sorry to be the one to inform you of this this very inconvenient truth but someone had to do it.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the quoted post. Christ, his mother, and his disciples were not in rebellion against God. Jews today are.

Christ and his disciples, it might be added, had some rather harsh things to say about the Jews.
 
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Fair's fair. He believes they should be condemned to death for their own good.. I think he might call it 'tough love'.

Many criminals have been spurred to repentance by the fact of their impending execution. And in any case, execution stops them from continuing in their wicked ways.
 
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Many criminals have been spurred to repentance by the fact of their impending execution. And in any case, execution stops them from continuing in their wicked ways.

the kill her because she aborted a zygote argument
wonder why that hasn't received more traction [/sarcasm for those who need the hint]


not unlike like anti-semitism; replace logic with anger. then act upon the anger
 
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the kill her because she aborted a zygote argument
wonder why that hasn't received more traction [/sarcasm for those who need the hint]


not unlike like anti-semitism; replace logic with anger. then act upon the anger

I have not made any emotional arguments here.

You are engaging in the typical liberal tactic of psychoanalyzing one's opponents instead of discussing the issue.
 
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Having skimmed through this topic, I'll try to get over the bad taste it left in my mouth and hopefully engage in a meaningful discussion.

Judaism is either a religion or an ethnicity, not both. Since there's a consensus that it's a religion, with conversions, scriptures, and rituals, it can't be an ethnicity, even if the religion originated in some ethnic group in the olden days. Thus, it's meaningless to say Jesus was a Jew, just like it's meaningless to say Muhammad was a Pagan.

As for antisemitism, only institutionalized discrimination is legitimate, for people will always have their prejudices against others. Unless someone can cite a regime that singles out Jews for maltreatment, or a place where only Jews are victimized, antisemitism remains a vestige of the past. In fact, the evidence affirms the reverse. With the recognition of its most partisan allies, Israel occupies another people and continues to deny them liberty and dignity. It brutalizes them and divest them of their humanity. And as Israel insists that it's the Jewish State and the greatest benefactor of the Jewish People, and as the world either turns a blind eye or subsidizes its occupation, the Jewish People must be the darling of the free world to be entitled to such impunity and unconditional camaraderie.

A word on Sharansky's 3Ds and the asininity of relating them to antisemitism. By occupying another people and denying them the right to self-determination, Israel delegitimizes itself. An occupation cannot be moral or humanitarian; it has no choice but to oppress the occupied to maintain order and achieve the occupation's ends. Therefore, Israel demonizes itself. Considering the unwavering support Israel receives from countries that vaunt their values of liberty and their moral superiority, Israel is indeed subjected to double standards when these countries choose to throw away everything they claim to stand for and shower Israel with their largesse despite it being a country guilty of a great moral offense.

Though I don't blame Sharansky or anyone else hiding behind antisemitism. When you have a world that's willing to be played like a fiddle, you do right by playing it like a fiddle. Here we are, dutifully concerned with the sensibilities of a people, when those very same people continue to perpetuate the decades-old ruin of another people.
 
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Having skimmed through this topic, I'll try to get over the bad taste it left in my mouth and hopefully engage in a meaningful discussion.

Judaism is either a religion or an ethnicity, not both. Since there's a consensus that it's a religion, with conversions, scriptures, and rituals, it can't be an ethnicity, even if the religion originated in some ethnic group in the olden days. Thus, it's meaningless to say Jesus was a Jew, just like it's meaningless to say Muhammad was a Pagan.

If Catholics admit Judaism is a religion, they have to admit what they follow is a Johnny-Come-Lately man-made invention and they don't want to do that.

Judaism has about 3000 years on Christianity.

It always makes me feel good to know they are worshiping one of our tribe as their savior.
 
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If Catholics admit Judaism is a religion, they have to admit what they follow is a Johnny-Come-Lately man-made invention and they don't want to do that.

Judaism has about 3000 years on Christianity.

It always makes me feel good to know they are worshiping one of our tribe as their savior.

let me make sure i understand your post

the Christian religion is inferior because it is newer and was propagated by man

your own jewish religion is superior because it is older and was a G_d-made invention. let's call that anti-anti-semitism

amused at the lengths some 'believers' will go thru to insist theirs is the superior religion
 
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let me make sure i understand your post

the Christian religion is inferior because it is newer and was propagated by man

your own jewish religion is superior because it is older and was a G_d-made invention. let's call that anti-anti-semitism

amused at the lengths some 'believers' will go thru to insist theirs is the superior religion

I was talking specifically about the poster here that thinks Judaism is an ethnicity and not a religion.

Where did you get all that from what I posted?
 
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I was talking specifically about the poster here that thinks Judaism is an ethnicity and not a religion.

Where did you get all that from what I posted?

from your post

appears you need to read it

allow me to make that easy for you. your post follows
If Catholics admit Judaism is a religion, they have to admit what they follow is a Johnny-Come-Lately man-made invention and they don't want to do that.


Judaism has about 3000 years on Christianity.


It always makes me feel good to know they are worshiping one of our tribe as their savior.
 
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Having skimmed through this topic, I'll try to get over the bad taste it left in my mouth and hopefully engage in a meaningful discussion.

Judaism is either a religion or an ethnicity, not both. Since there's a consensus that it's a religion, with conversions, scriptures, and rituals, it can't be an ethnicity, even if the religion originated in some ethnic group in the olden days. Thus, it's meaningless to say Jesus was a Jew, just like it's meaningless to say Muhammad was a Pagan.

As for antisemitism, only institutionalized discrimination is legitimate, for people will always have their prejudices against others. Unless someone can cite a regime that singles out Jews for maltreatment, or a place where only Jews are victimized, antisemitism remains a vestige of the past. In fact, the evidence affirms the reverse. With the recognition of its most partisan allies, Israel occupies another people and continues to deny them liberty and dignity. It brutalizes them and divest them of their humanity. And as Israel insists that it's the Jewish State and the greatest benefactor of the Jewish People, and as the world either turns a blind eye or subsidizes its occupation, the Jewish People must be the darling of the free world to be entitled to such impunity and unconditional camaraderie.

A word on Sharansky's 3Ds and the asininity of relating them to antisemitism. By occupying another people and denying them the right to self-determination, Israel delegitimizes itself. An occupation cannot be moral or humanitarian; it has no choice but to oppress the occupied to maintain order and achieve the occupation's ends. Therefore, Israel demonizes itself. Considering the unwavering support Israel receives from countries that vaunt their values of liberty and their moral superiority, Israel is indeed subjected to double standards when these countries choose to throw away everything they claim to stand for and shower Israel with their largesse despite it being a country guilty of a great moral offense.

Though I don't blame Sharansky or anyone else hiding behind antisemitism. When you have a world that's willing to be played like a fiddle, you do right by playing it like a fiddle. Here we are, dutifully concerned with the sensibilities of a people, when those very same people continue to perpetuate the decades-old ruin of another people.

Hang on. Jesus was not a Christian, he practised Judaism, or so say the gospels; discussions with the Rabbis and all that.

Do you really, honestly, truthfully believe that Israel is ruining the super-rich, vastly more numerous, Arabs? It's possible, I suppose, given that some have the talent to believe anything they wish.
 
There are many other incidents in other places. Google "anti-semitism on campus".

I did. Are you referring to the organization "Anti-Semitism on Campus" or about anti-Semitism on campus. If the latter, there isn't much information, but I did find this.

The 10 Worst Anti-Semitic Campuses | Truth Revolt

It appears that the group Students for Justice for Palestine is a problem. I don't think, however, that there is a widespread or pervasive problem with anti-Semitism on campus.
 
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Hang on. Jesus was not a Christian, he practised Judaism, or so say the gospels; discussions with the Rabbis and all that.

Again, that's nonsensical. It's like saying Muhammad was a pagan - preaching to his pagan tribe, Quraysh, and demonstrating the supposed falsehood of its paganism.

As Judaism is a religion, it's not an ethnicity. The moment Jesus challenged established Judaism, he ceased to be a Jew forever. In ideology, what matters is the final product, not its precursors.

Do you really, honestly, truthfully believe that Israel is ruining the super-rich, vastly more numerous, Arabs? It's possible, I suppose, given that some have the talent to believe anything they wish.

What the hell are you babbling on about? in no where in my post did I even allude to that. Could this be the knee-jerk reaction of a Semitic-fetishist to the least of unfavorable rhetoric towards Jews: denigration by means of the most threadbare of conspiratorial talk?

Nevertheless, let's indulge you briefly. A Jew would tell you that the Jews are God's Chosen People, that Jews exert undue influence on world's finance, and that Jews are exceptionally intelligent, affluent, and successful. Yet if a goy dares allude to any of it, he's labeled a fanatic anti-Semite. Now, I'm inclined to believe in none of it, but since you were the one to bring it up, I'd like to hear you conciliating the dissonance.
 
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If Catholics admit Judaism is a religion, they have to admit what they follow is a Johnny-Come-Lately man-made invention and they don't want to do that.

Judaism has about 3000 years on Christianity.

It always makes me feel good to know they are worshiping one of our tribe as their savior.

I was tempted to gloat and say that Zionist Christians deserve the ungrateful Jewish ridicule, but I remembered that the Jewish-Christian alliance is wholly expedient, despite its perverse notion of expediency.

An exemplar of that phenomenon is Michele Bachmann. A staunch supporter of the Jewish State and a fervent advocate of the Jewish people, she lobbies for the en masse return of Jews to the Holy Land only to pave the way for Jesus's return and his anticipated annihilation of the Jewish people, though she's benevolent enough to advocate for the conversion of heathen Jews before they meet their terrible fate at the hands of her merciful God.
 
I did. Are you referring to the organization "Anti-Semitism on Campus" or about anti-Semitism on campus. If the latter, there isn't much information, but I did find this.

The 10 Worst Anti-Semitic Campuses | Truth Revolt

It appears that the group Students for Justice for Palestine is a problem. I don't think, however, that there is a widespread or pervasive problem with anti-Semitism on campus.

It seems that you are overlooking quite a lot. Here's an overview that I think you might find to be balanced: Anti-Semitism on Campus: Old Wine in New Bottles
 
It seems that you are overlooking quite a lot. Here's an overview that I think you might find to be balanced: Anti-Semitism on Campus: Old Wine in New Bottles

I really think this is a small chunk of a larger picture(which is not to downplay what you linked at all, having religion be a factor in qualification for student office is just not right, as one example from your article). We as a country seem to be spending far too much of our time splitting yourself into separate groups, by religion, by race, by ideology, by gender, by orientation. If you belong to a group that is not my group, then you are other, and bad. And I think that makes us much weaker as a nation than we could be. We no longer seem to be trying for common ground, but instead to draw lines in the sand, divides that must not be crossed. It is no one group that does this, but seemingly all groups, and I don't have any idea how we can stop it.
 
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