Western Kentucky Professor: Trump's victory signals that human decency is no longer an American virtue

[TU Curmudgeon]

Your two sentences indicate you agree with the professor's thesis. People do not care about the morality of the candidate, no matter how bad they are.

The term you are looking for is "socially normalized" as in

"Another of those terrible _[fill in the blank]_ ain't it? Honey, when does "Blooper Highlights from Survivors of Dancing with the Stars of the NASCAR-WWF Monster Truck and Tractor Pull Mud Wrestling Wet Tee Shirt Contest" come on?"​

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Dispassion<--------------------------------------->Altruism

Where on the line would you place a person's moral equilibrium? A nation's?

The line is actually

Selfishness<--------------------|-------------------->Altruism​

and the current average rank is

Selfishness<-------X-----------|-------------------->Altruism​

 

[eman623]

I doubt Hamas is trembling in fear. What can trump do to them that Israel hasn't already done?

Ask Qatar. The day after Trump was elected, they kicked Hamas out of their luxury hotel and Trump was not even president yet.

Better still, ask Iran. Trump will probably go after Hamas' puppetmasters if the US hostages are not released. Iran has a history of returning hostages when strong presidents take office you know

 

[911Sparky]

Ask Qatar. The day after Trump was elected, they kicked Hamas out of their luxury hotel and Trump was not even president yet.

Better still, ask Iran. Trump will probably go after Hamas' puppetmasters if the US hostages are not released.

Iran has a history of returning hostages when strong presidents take office you know

Is trump going to step down? Oh, I get it, you're saying trump will be a strong president.

 

[BrotherFease]

The term you are looking for is "socially normalized" as in

"Another of those terrible _[fill in the blank]_ ain't it? Honey, when does "Blooper Highlights from Survivors of Dancing with the Stars of the NASCAR-WWF Monster Truck and Tractor Pull Mud Wrestling Wet Tee Shirt Contest" come on?"​

"Sanewashing" is the word.

 

[BrotherFease]

Biden did address affordability, he brought inflation down to a little over 2%. trump voters apparently believe there would have been no inflation if he had been reelected in 2020.

Of course the price of goods went up. We had/have a labor shortage, one we overcame by increasing wages. When your local McDonalds employee pay goes from $8 to $15 the price
of a big mac is gonna go up. I think the American people made a mistake, I hope I'm wrong.

Let me make this clear: I voted for Harris and do not blame Biden for the rise of prices. My point is about lack of communication skills on the issue. The average Joe and Joanna doesn't understand economics or how the U.S economy operates. It is the job of the Biden Administration to communicate with the average Joe and Joanna and put them at ease with the situation.

If you look at the debate between Harris and Trump, the first question asked to Harris was: Are we better off than we were four years ago? Harris responded that she grew up in a middle class family and acknowledged that prices are too high. There was no defense of the last four years. She could have pointed out that four years ago we ran out of toilet paper, and that she and Joe inherited a recession and a pandemic. There should have presented dozens of examples of how they got us out of a deep hole, and then go on to talk about how the Harris administration is going to tackle affordability. That didn't happen. The Harris campaign basically implied that we are worst off than we were four years ago.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

"Sanewashing" is the word.

Only if you aren't literate and have to make up words.

 

[Along Came Jones]

The line is actually

Selfishness<--------------------|-------------------->Altruism​

and the current average rank is

Selfishness<-------X-----------|-------------------->Altruism​

@quip

Thanks for the replies and the substitution, but "selfishness," though a near antonym to "altruism," does not capture the extreme I hoped to convey. (And apparently failed to do.)

Altruism = unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others
Dispassion = freedom from or lack of strong feeling, which would remove selfishness as a concern for one's own welfare or advantage at the expense of or in disregard of others.

Does not care one way or the other< . . .>Completely cares above and beyond self interest

Anyway, thanks.

 

[Corbell]

Disagree with what?

You think Trump has great moral character?

The professor correctly points out that morality is irrelevant in a presidential candidate.

The whole train of logic that the op is based on, is assuming that people that disagree with you and the profession, are voting for Trump BASED ON AGREEING with you and the professor.


You see Trump as racist. Thus IN YOUR MIND, a vote for Trump is a vote for racism. YOu can't grasp that the people that you know intellectually disagre with you, ACTUALLY disagree with you.

Your mind is closed to a point that is a form of delusion. You are unable to fully comprehend of other people as seperate from yourself.

 

[DrewPaul]

I know, what country wouldn't be proud to be led by a convicted felon, serial adulterer, liar and traitor?

Over Harris or Biden no doubt.

 

[PoS]

Biden crime family. So dumb. A registration charge and tax cheating. Not exactly the crimes of the century. Trump? The crime of the last two centuries.

It's because of retribution that Hunter got pardoned. If Harris had won, Hunter would not have been pardoned. If Biden had any balls, he'd pardon every single person on Patel's list.

MAGA aren't very bright. Telegraphing your evil intentions never works out well.

Another advocate for hypocrisy and criminality comes out of the closet. Libs are two faced hypocrites who cannot be trusted, and thats why they keep losing.

 

[Michael Cole]

Another advocate for hypocrisy and criminality comes out of the closet. Libs are two faced hypocrites who cannot be trusted, and thats why they keep losing.

Funny stuff. When lacking a response, play the lib card. Not a lib. I don't care about "libs." Don't know any. I used to have a neighbor who had his comics published in a liberal underground free paper. That's the closest I've been to a lib.

A registration charge and tax cheating are not the crimes of the century. Attacking the Capitol is. Trying to overturn an election is. That's just the reality of the situation. My views are conservative - law & order views. Oath to the Constitution views. Your views are radical. Conspiratorial. Your views remind me of the Chicago 7. Radical and conspiratorial. Leftist views. You sir are the liberal.

Alrighty then. Anything else? How's the crime in your area? Officer involved shootings are happening far too often around here.

Coroner identifies man killed in Keystone officer involved shooting

A suspect was killed in an officer involved shooting at the Raley’s on Keystone Avenue.

www.kolotv.com

Enjoy your leftist adventure.

 

[Corbell]

Funny stuff. When lacking a response, play the lib card. Not a lib. I don't care about "libs." Don't know any. I used to have a neighbor who had his comics published in a liberal underground free paper. That's the closest I've been to a lib.

A registration charge and tax cheating are not the crimes of the century. Attacking the Capitol is. Trying to overturn an election is. That's just the reality of the situation. My views are conservative - law & order views. Oath to the Constitution views. Your views are radical. Conspiratorial. Your views remind me of the Chicago 7. Radical and conspiratorial. Leftist views. You sir are the liberal.

Alrighty then. Anything else? How's the crime in your area? Officer involved shootings are happening far too often around here.

Coroner identifies man killed in Keystone officer involved shooting

A suspect was killed in an officer involved shooting at the Raley’s on Keystone Avenue.

www.kolotv.com

Enjoy your leftist adventure.

The 1/6 riot was a riot. Nothing more.

The idea that it was a serious attempt at a coup, is dumb.

 

[Michael Cole]

The 1/6 riot was a riot. Nothing more.

Whatever you need to lie to yourself about is not my concern. Whether you sleep at night is not my concern.

The idea that it was a serious attempt at a coup, is dumb.

The denial required to come to this conclusion is epic. Trump demanding VP Pence violate his oath are public knowledge. The fake elector scheme is public record.

Whatever you need to lie to yourself about is just wonderful by me. Don't care. If your liberal mind can't dissect truth from lie, then I don't know what to tell you.

So, how's crime in your area?

Salvation Army red kettle stolen in Carson City

It happened just after 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday night outside the Walmart on US-395 near Topsy Lane.

www.kolotv.com

That kinda crap ticks me off. I'm not a believer but I am a law and order guy. And I just hate thieves. Especially those who steal from the needy.

 

[Corbell]

Whatever you need to lie to yourself about is not my concern. Whether you sleep at night is not my concern.


The denial required to come to this conclusion is epic. Trump demanding VP Pence violate his oath are public knowledge. The fake elector scheme is public record.

Whatever you need to lie to yourself about is just wonderful by me. Don't care. If your liberal mind can't dissect truth from lie, then I don't know what to tell you.

So, how's crime in your area?

Salvation Army red kettle stolen in Carson City

It happened just after 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday night outside the Walmart on US-395 near Topsy Lane.

www.kolotv.com

That kinda crap ticks me off. I'm not a believer but I am a law and order guy. And I just hate thieves. Especially those who steal from the needy.

The elector scheme is completely seperate from teh riot.


When people try to conflate unconnected issues, that is them trying to hide how weak their position is.

 

[BabaVoss]

The 1/6 riot was a riot. Nothing more.

It was insurrection, by definition.

The idea that it was a serious attempt at a coup, is dumb.

Was it a poorly executed? Absolutely. Was it a coup attempt? I don't think so, not directly anyway. Trump orchestrated this event to happen at our capitol on that day, specifically. What did he hope to accomplish? Chaos and possibly an opening for him. I think he expected to DELAY the proceedings, because DELAY si Step 2 in his usual method. A DEALY combined with all the uncertainty and distrust he sowed and the fake elector scheme was all a hail mary pass in his hopes to maintain power.

Now that he will have it again, we are in for a rough few years. The cult believes his bullshit, but I wonder for how long? This time there will be no rational excuses for the coming failures. The trumper chaos we are seeing already is only a glimpse of what is to come. I can’t believe Americans were so stupid - again.

 

[BabaVoss]

The elector scheme is completely seperate from teh riot.

Was it?

When people try to conflate unconnected issues, that is them trying to hide how weak their position is.

Uh huh.

 

[Michael Cole]

The elector scheme is completely seperate from teh riot.

teh shit was violent and illegal

When people try to conflate unconnected issues, that is them trying to hide how weak their position is.

when someone is trying to bullshit me on the internet, it's always a leftist trying their best

enjoy your leftist adventure

 

[Corbell]

.... Trump orchestrated this event to happen at our capitol on that day, specifically. What did he hope to accomplish? ....

The republicans have had one riot in this generation, so far. It would be insane for Trump to have based a plan on having a riot. Especially as the DEMS controlled the police, that seem to have sparked the riot by firing (nonlethal) on the peaceful protestors.

He clealry called for a peaceful protest to put pressure on Pence and Congress.

Any claim by lefties that it was a planned insurrection attempt, is dumb.

 

[Corbell]

Was it?


....

Clearly.

The republicans had ONE riot this generation. There was no way that Trump could predict that the riot would happen. Especially as it seems to have been sparked by the dem controlled capitol police, when they fired (none lethal) on the peaceful protestors.

Any claim by any lefty that the riot was part of a planned insurrection, is stupid.

 

[Corbell]

teh shit was violent and illegal

Of course the riot was violent and illegal. It was a riot. D'uh.

when someone is trying to bullshit me on the internet, it's always a leftist trying their best

You mean like making the point that a riot is violent and illegal? LOL.

enjoy your leftist adventure

Said the gaslighting leftist.

 

[Along Came Jones]

It was insurrection, by definition.


Was it a poorly executed? Absolutely. Was it a coup attempt? I don't think so, not directly anyway. Trump orchestrated this event to happen at our capitol on that day, specifically. What did he hope to accomplish? Chaos and possibly an opening for him. I think he expected to DELAY the proceedings, because DELAY si Step 2 in his usual method. A DEALY combined with all the uncertainty and distrust he sowed and the fake elector scheme was all a hail mary pass in his hopes to maintain power.

Now that he will have it again, we are in for a rough few years. The cult believes his bullshit, but I wonder for how long? This time there will be no rational excuses for the coming failures. The trumper chaos we are seeing already is only a glimpse of what is to come. I can’t believe Americans were so stupid - again.

Depends on whose definition is used. Days after whatever happened, before we learned the militia groups came armed and stashed weapons around the city, we grabbled with how to define what happened.

Riot? Insurrection? Words matter in describing Capitol siege, David Bauder, Associated Press, 1/14/2021
"At first, viewed from a distance, it was a rally or protest. Then it became an assault, a riot, an insurrection, domestic terrorism or even a coup attempt. The language used by the American media to describe last week’s Capitol siege proves one thing whatever your perspective: Words matter."

For the majority of the participants, I agree with Edward N. Luttwak who wrote Coup d'État: A Practical Handbook, Revised Edition, 2016.

The Mob on the Hill Was Far From a Coup, Edward N. Luttwak, the Wall Street Journal, 1/7/2021 (Paywall)
"The only description that makes sense is a venting of pent-up resentments."

Those intent on the label "Coup d'État" applied a different definition. Whatever happened that day was a "Self Coup." Neat way to skirt around the crowd's intent. Label it and apply the label universally.

But I think the DOJ and the FBI sorted out the levels of culpability and the courts imposed penalties accordingly. Members of the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys were convicted of seditious conspiracy. Many more participants were tried, convicted and sentenced for lesser violations ranging from unauthorized entry to impeding Congress as well as assault.

We'll be at odds over how to describe January 6, 2021 till the rivers run dry.

 

[BabaVoss]

Clearly.

You think so. Not everyone shares that view.

The republicans had ONE riot this generation.

You mean the Jan 6th insurrection. Yes, political riots are quite rare. It should not be a source of pride that there was only ONE though. Especially not at our capitol. That is a stain on our history.

There was no way that Trump could predict that the riot would happen.

That's funny. "Be there. Will be wild."
He arranged for his angry supporters to be there, told them that if they didn't "fight like hell" they would not have a country anymore.
He used the word "fight" 20 or so times. But he did say "peacefully" once.
His cronies also said fight during this same 'rally'.
Crazy Rudy yelled "trial by combat!".
Many of the criminals testified that they were there because Trump called them to be there.
Of course this was all orchestrated.
Given the above, how hard was it to predict the violence.
Your assertion is absurd. Trump clearly wanted it to happen. He arranged for it to happen.
He got his wish.

Especially as it seems to have been sparked by the dem controlled capitol police, when they fired (none lethal) on the peaceful protestors.

Bullshit.

Any claim by any lefty that the riot was part of a planned insurrection, is stupid.

See above.

 

[Beruit 1978]

I think we need more articles dehumanizing real people with real concerns in real life, for the weirdos on the left to laugh at.

 

[Corbell]

You think so. Not everyone shares that view.

Sure they do. Some people just choose to talk shit.

You mean the Jan 6th insurrection. Yes, political riots are quite rare. It should not be a source of pride that there was only ONE though. Especially not at our capitol. That is a stain on our history.

Political riots are not rare. There were hundreds during the trump years. Almost all of them from the left of course, who are teh source of most political violence in the US.

That's funny. "Be there. Will be wild."
He arranged for his angry supporters to be there, told them that if they didn't "fight like hell" they would not have a country anymore.
He used the word "fight" 20 or so times. But he did say "peacefully" once.
His cronies also said fight during this same 'rally'.
Crazy Rudy yelled "trial by combat!".
Many of the criminals testified that they were there because Trump called them to be there.
Of course this was all orchestrated.
Given the above, how hard was it to predict the violence.
Your assertion is absurd. Trump clearly wanted it to happen. He arranged for it to happen.
He got his wish.


Bullshit.

When you only have ONE riot a generation, it is by definition a fluke that you can't depend on. Anyone betting on the outcome of the protest before the riot, would have been predicting a "wild" protest, very loud, very angry.

But a republcian riot is always unlikely.