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She's watching you. Be careful.Of course the riot was violent and illegal. It was a riot. D'uh.
Sheep posting.You mean like making the point that a riot is violent and illegal? LOL.
Baaaaaa!!!!Said the gaslighting leftist.
You appear to have missed the underlying thread of American politics, which is@quip
Thanks for the replies and the substitution, but "selfishness," though a near antonym to "altruism," does not capture the extreme I hoped to convey. (And apparently failed to do.)
Altruism = unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others
Dispassion = freedom from or lack of strong feeling, which would remove selfishness as a concern for one's own welfare or advantage at the expense of or in disregard of others.
Does not care one way or the other< . . .>Completely cares above and beyond self interest
Anyway, thanks.
LOL. No, they don't.Sure they do.
Lots.Some people just choose to talk shit.
Only one at our capitol.Political riots are not rare. There were hundreds during the trump years. Almost all of them from the left of course, who are teh source of most political violence in the US.
It was orchestrated, not a fluke.When you only have ONE riot a generation, it is by definition a fluke that you can't depend on.
Trump got what he wanted, even thought the he didn't get the outcome he hoped for. The stunt did not work well enough to delay the certification. All that damage, all those people's lives messed up for nothing.Anyone betting on the outcome of the protest before the riot, would have been predicting a "wild" protest, very loud, very angry.
You guys are ahead in insurrections; The score is 1 - 0.But a republcian riot is always unlikely.
"You think so. Not everyone shares that view."
LOL. No, they don't.
Lots.
Only one at our capitol.
Only one was clearly political. Heck, the criminals wore trump merch and waved trump flags.
Good effort on your part though. Most trumpers refer to the "lefty summer of riots' or some similar stupidity. You are going to try to include years. Truly absurd.
Pretending that any and all riots anywhere for whatever period of time you want to choose were due to politics - left or right - is laughable.
Trying to equate this jumble of events to the singular insurrection by trumpers at our capitol is equally absurd. No one is buying it.
That stain on our history is forever linked to trump and his trumpers. It will not be forgotten, no matter how much you pretend.
It was orchestrated, not a fluke.
Trump got what he wanted, even thought the he didn't get the outcome he hoped for. The stunt did not work well enough to delay the certification. All that damage, all those people's lives messed up for nothing.
You guys are ahead in insurrections; The score is 1 - 0.
No it isn't.The elector scheme is completely seperate from teh riot.
When people successfully conflate seemingly "unconnected issues", that is when they file RICO charges.When people try to conflate unconnected issues, that is them trying to hide how weak their position is.
Oh goodie.Your manufactured hysteria is noted and dismissed.
What merch were they wearing?The antifa and blm riots were political.
I don't try to equate utterly unrelated events in order to justify awful things done at the behest of my chosen candidate. You, apparently, feel you have no option. I strongly suggest stepping away from the cult, from Fox "News", and thinking for yourself. If that feels like a daunting task only because you are unfamiliar with it. Take a breath and give it a try.That you ignore the far more numerous and deadly riots of YOUR side, to have a hissy fit about the ONE riot on the side of your enemies, is clearly just so you can spam negs about your enemies.
I agree with this to a point. Democratic messaging could have and should have been better, but in the end voters decided to cast their ballot for a known liar, cheater and convicted felon.Let me make this clear: I voted for Harris and do not blame Biden for the rise of prices. My point is about lack of communication skills on the issue. The average Joe and Joanna doesn't understand economics or how the U.S economy operates. It is the job of the Biden Administration to communicate with the average Joe and Joanna and put them at ease with the situation.
If you look at the debate between Harris and Trump, the first question asked to Harris was: Are we better off than we were four years ago? Harris responded that she grew up in a middle class family and acknowledged that prices are too high. There was no defense of the last four years. She could have pointed out that four years ago we ran out of toilet paper, and that she and Joe inherited a recession and a pandemic. There should have presented dozens of examples of how they got us out of a deep hole, and then go on to talk about how the Harris administration is going to tackle affordability. That didn't happen. The Harris campaign basically implied that we are worst off than we were four years ago.
I am rooting for Trump to succeed, like I do with every President and believe he has the power to redeem himself.I agree with this to a point. Democratic messaging could have and should have been better, but in the end voters decided to cast their ballot for a known liar, cheater and convicted felon.
Maybe the Dems were just lazy, thinking no decent person, no patriotic American would vote for trump. I hope trump is a successful president, because that is good for the country, but
based on his cabinet picks so far, we are looking at a cluster****.
The good professor is a drama queen.
No it isn't.
When people successfully conflate seemingly "unconnected issues", that is when they file RICO charges.
,Marxists rioting in support and working with dems.Oh goodie.
What merch were they wearing?
Which party?
How do you know?
I don't try to equate utterly unrelated events in order to justify awful things done at the behest of my chosen candidate. You, apparently, feel you have no option. I strongly suggest stepping away from the cult, from Fox "News", and thinking for yourself. If that feels like a daunting task only because you are unfamiliar with it. Take a breath and give it a try.
No, I don't, and I really have no idea why you would even ask the question.Do you really believe people voted for Trump because he represents model citizenship?
I think you hit onto something here. The democrats thought the overall dislike of Trump as a person would carry them to a win. Biden used this strategy, he let Trump be Trump back in 2020. But Biden was the challenger facing an incumbent president whose overall job approval was a low 43%. This time around it was Biden who had the very low overall job approval of 41%. 56% of all Americans were very dissatisfied with the job the Biden administration had done over the last 4 years. Trump, who at election time had 54% of all Americans viewing him in a negative or unfavorable manner. It seems enough of those who disliked Trump as a person overcame that dislike of him to vote for him thinking, hoping their life would be better under Trump than a carryover VP of the Biden administration. After all, presidential elections are a referendum on the sitting president, not the challenger.I agree with this to a point. Democratic messaging could have and should have been better, but in the end voters decided to cast their ballot for a known liar, cheater and convicted felon.
Maybe the Dems were just lazy, thinking no decent person, no patriotic American would vote for trump. I hope trump is a successful president, because that is good for the country, but
based on his cabinet picks so far, we are looking at a cluster****.
I think you hit onto something here. The democrats thought the overall dislike of Trump as a person would carry them to a win. Biden used this strategy, he let Trump be Trump back in 2020. But Biden was the challenger facing an incumbent president whose overall job approval was a low 43%. This time around it was Biden who had the very low overall job approval of 41%. 56% of all Americans were very dissatisfied with the job the Biden administration had done over the last 4 years. Trump, who at election time had 54% of all Americans viewing him in a negative or unfavorable manner. It seems enough of those who disliked Trump as a person overcame that dislike of him to vote for him thinking, hoping their life would be better under Trump than a carryover VP of the Biden administration. After all, presidential elections are a referendum on the sitting president, not the challenger.
I do agree that Harris spent way too much time denigrating Trump with negative personal attacks and not enough time on messaging. Especially about inflation, rising prices and illegal immigration. What she would do differently than what Biden had to fix those problems. Perhaps the most damaging event to her campaign was when she said she’d do nothing different than what Biden had done. That wasn’t what people were looking for. They believed what Biden had done to fix those problems hadn’t worked. Here they were being offered more of the same. A continuation of the Biden programs to counter inflation, rising prices and immigration which hadn’t worked in their minds.
In the end, a candidate they disliked as a person won out over a candidate who was viewed as continuing the same path on those most important issues that they deem failed. In short, a change in policy won would over dislike of the challenger. They deemed they had it better under Trump, their lifestyle, standard of living was better than under Biden and his administration. Perhaps it is just this simple.
Only for the MAGAs.You can read the full article here. Here are some snippets on key points:
This is a terrific, but sad great read. Quite frankly, I cannot disagree with a single word he wrote. Do you guys think human decency is dead?
No, the riot was not a fluke, but rather the logical result of the stop-the-steal LIE, the right-wingnut propaganda, the anti-government sentiments, and the brainwashing of so-called "christian" nationalists.The riot was a fluke.
The fact that the plan, if it existed, was poor and uncoordinated, does not mean there was no plan. There were any number of disparate groups of radicals there, so cohesive coordination was unlikely. But even entirely absent a "plan" per se, it does not mean that there wasn't a unified intention! You can have intention with no plan. You can bring weapons - and they did. You can bring effigies - and they did. You can bring personal armor against police action - and they did. You can bring rope to hang Mike Pence - and they did. You can bring pepper spray - and they did. They came prepared for an assault on the Capitol - and they did assault the Capitol!There was no way it could have been part of any plan.
No - it's merely observant, without ignorant partisan denial. We've all heard more than enough of that.It is insane to claim otherwise.
No, the riot was not a fluke, but rather the logical result of the stop-the-steal LIE, the right-wingnut propaganda, the anti-government sentiments, and the brainwashing of so-called "christian" nationalists.
The fact that the plan, if it existed, was poor and uncoordinated, does not mean there was no plan. There were any number of disparate groups of radicals there, so cohesive coordination was unlikely. But even entirely absent a "plan" per se, it does not mean that there wasn't a unified intention! You can have intention with no plan. You can bring weapons - and they did. You can bring effigies - and they did. You can bring personal armor against police action - and they did. You can bring rope to hang Mike Pence - and they did. You can bring pepper spray - and they did. They came prepared for an assault on the Capitol - and they did assault the Capitol!
No - it's merely observant, without ignorant partisan denial. We've all heard more than enough of that.
So you keep insisting. It's still baloney, though. It was an insurrection, obviously set up and fed by trump's lies. But do go on.One riot in a generation. It wasa a fluke.
Yes, you can conflate decades of unrelated violent events, pretend they were wometign they were not, all in the thin hopes that the insurrection looks somehow less than it was. Its not working.Your hysterical exaggeration of the riot, is... dishonest and callous. You should save some of your pretend outrage for hte lefty riots of the same time, that killed dozens of people and devastated whole communities.
Exactly.I think you hit onto something here. The democrats thought the overall dislike of Trump as a person would carry them to a win. Biden used this strategy, he let Trump be Trump back in 2020. But Biden was the challenger facing an incumbent president whose overall job approval was a low 43%. This time around it was Biden who had the very low overall job approval of 41%. 56% of all Americans were very dissatisfied with the job the Biden administration had done over the last 4 years. Trump, who at election time had 54% of all Americans viewing him in a negative or unfavorable manner. It seems enough of those who disliked Trump as a person overcame that dislike of him to vote for him thinking, hoping their life would be better under Trump than a carryover VP of the Biden administration. After all, presidential elections are a referendum on the sitting president, not the challenger.
I do agree that Harris spent way too much time denigrating Trump with negative personal attacks and not enough time on messaging. Especially about inflation, rising prices and illegal immigration. What she would do differently than what Biden had to fix those problems. Perhaps the most damaging event to her campaign was when she said she’d do nothing different than what Biden had done. That wasn’t what people were looking for. They believed what Biden had done to fix those problems hadn’t worked. Here they were being offered more of the same. A continuation of the Biden programs to counter inflation, rising prices and immigration which hadn’t worked in their minds.
In the end, a candidate they disliked as a person won out over a candidate who was viewed as continuing the same path on those most important issues that they deem failed. In short, a change in policy won would over dislike of the challenger. They deemed they had it better under Trump, their lifestyle, standard of living was better than under Biden and his administration. Perhaps it is just this simple.
ONe isolated incident in a generation? HOw would Trump had seen it coming? NO way that was part of any plan.So you keep insisting. It's still baloney, though. It was an insurrection, obviously set up and fed by trump's lies. But do go on.
Yes, you can conflate decades of unrelated violent events, pretend they were wometign they were not, all in the thin hopes that the insurrection looks somehow less than it was. Its not working.
History will refer to that event as an insurrection forever.
I don't understand how voters could fail to give credit to Biden for bringing us out of the covid recession and the covid virus. trump mishandled both and yet they gave him a second chanceI think you hit onto something here. The democrats thought the overall dislike of Trump as a person would carry them to a win. Biden used this strategy, he let Trump be Trump back in 2020. But Biden was the challenger facing an incumbent president whose overall job approval was a low 43%. This time around it was Biden who had the very low overall job approval of 41%. 56% of all Americans were very dissatisfied with the job the Biden administration had done over the last 4 years. Trump, who at election time had 54% of all Americans viewing him in a negative or unfavorable manner. It seems enough of those who disliked Trump as a person overcame that dislike of him to vote for him thinking, hoping their life would be better under Trump than a carryover VP of the Biden administration. After all, presidential elections are a referendum on the sitting president, not the challenger.
I do agree that Harris spent way too much time denigrating Trump with negative personal attacks and not enough time on messaging. Especially about inflation, rising prices and illegal immigration. What she would do differently than what Biden had to fix those problems. Perhaps the most damaging event to her campaign was when she said she’d do nothing different than what Biden had done. That wasn’t what people were looking for. They believed what Biden had done to fix those problems hadn’t worked. Here they were being offered more of the same. A continuation of the Biden programs to counter inflation, rising prices and immigration which hadn’t worked in their minds.
In the end, a candidate they disliked as a person won out over a candidate who was viewed as continuing the same path on those most important issues that they deem failed. In short, a change in policy won would over dislike of the challenger. They deemed they had it better under Trump, their lifestyle, standard of living was better than under Biden and his administration. Perhaps it is just this simple.
Please stop. Trump arranged it, fed it, had his cronies add to the hype. He asked those people to be there. The criminals testified that they were there at his request. They were there for him. Did they make that up?ONe isolated incident in a generation? Hww would Trump had seen it coming? NO way that was part of any plan.
Roger that. You just said in a short couple of sentences what took me 3 paragraphs. In 2020 they didn’t like Trump nor his policies, Biden just had to sit back, relax and let those two dislikes take hold. In 2024, it was Biden’s policies that was disliked to where the more disliked candidate benefited over the more likeable candidate.Exactly.
Harris was the more likable candidate, but they agreed with Trump on the main issues.
The problem for Harris was she was attached to a widely disliked administration. Both sides of the aisle had major issues with Biden's job performance. Neither Biden or Harris made the case the country was better off under them instead of Trump.
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