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Well, Its On, Officially

Yeah. You edited the rest out.
No.

Your post is still there. Unedited.

In my post I used the "quote box" to "quote" the part of your post that I was responding to.

But hey, you need an out, you've got nothing, this is your run away card. I get it. You always do it
 
No.

Your post is still there. Unedited.

Of course it is. My objection is what you do with your quotation of it.

In my post I used the "quote box" to "quote" the part of your post that I was responding to.

But hey, you need an out, you've got nothing, this is your run away card. I get it. You always do it

Not running. Just don't like you editing my posts when you respond to them. You do it every time you're stuck.
 
Of course it is. My objection is what you do with your quotation of it.
So the confusion is clearing?

Your post is still there. Unedited.

You just have the silly idea that I should quote your whole post when I am only fefering to part of it.


if you went to collige your term papers must have been tens of thousands of pages long and very hard to follow, quoting entire studies and books when you were only refering to a sentence or two.
Not running. Just don't like you editing my posts when you respond to them. You do it every time you're stuck.
I didn't edit your post. Its still there unedited. I just quoted part of it.

The part I was refering to.

How much do you want to bet you didnt go to college?
 
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So the confusion is clearing?

Your post is still there. Unedited.

You just have the silly idea that I should quote your whole post when I am only fefering to part of it.


if you went to collige your term papers must have been tens of thousands of pages long and bery hard to follow, quoting entire stufies and books when you were only refering to a sentence or two.

I would hope if I went to college, I could spell better than that dismal mess.

I didn't edit your post. Its still there unedited. I just quoted part of it.

I bet you hit reply and then removed part of my post.

The part I was refering to.

You don't have to remove the rest of my post to respond to one part of it. This is actually a demonstration of that.
How much do you want to bet you didnt go to college?

I never had enough credits to get a degree or anything.

You're college educated? How's it feel to be so thoroughly owned by a dumb-ass construction worker? (Retired) 😆
 
I would hope if I went to college, I could spell better than that dismal mess.
Seriously?????

That is your response?

I am on a phone. Tiny little keyboard. No proof reading

You are so bad at this
I bet you hit reply and then removed part of my post.
Right

The fog is clearing. Good.

I hit reply and then quoted the part i was refering to, Instead of quoting the entire thing like an idiot when I was only refering to part of it.
You don't have to remove the rest of my post to respond to one part of it. This is actually a demonstration of that.

Why would i quote the whole thing when I was only refering to part of it.

That makes zero sense.

If you ever go to college start with a logic class.
 
They already have:



so they can again.

MAGA.

That was the National Guard in 1970 during the war in Vietnam. It was at Kent State U in Ohio that had a Republican governor James Rhodes with his trigger finger. Soon before it Nixon called anti war protesters "bums" and said Rhodes was his favorite governor.

Rhodes declared martial law on the campus only which is how the NG did the lethal discharge of their weapons they never should have had ammunition for. The martial law exempted all of 'em from the governor to the NG from the civil laws. The Ohio NG has never been held accountable under civil or military laws.

The troops were not regular Army with RA NCOs and officers in the US Army chain of command. The NG did not have the discipline, education, training, awareness and active service that RA forces have. This was during the draft whereas the military since the end of the VN war are volunteer professionals who want nothing to do with dizzy draftees beside 'em.


During J6 the acting SecDef Christopher Miller who had been chief of counterintel before, and was a retired RA colonel, cited Kent State in his refusal to commit the DC NG to the Capitol until the rioting insurrectionist criminals had begun to withdraw in their failures. Miller's posture reflects what everyone at the Pentagon knows, which is that the NG -- bless 'em for their work in disaster relief -- are not reliable in instances of civil disorder.

Plus everyone knows the RA does not do law enforcement and the Potus/C'nC has no authority in any of the laws or the Constitution to impose a federal martial law. Well and actually, the federal government and martial law are not known so I'll say it again, no law authorizes a federal martial law by either the Potus/C'nC or by the Congress or by both of 'em together. While a governor can declare martial law, there is no and never has been a federal martial law in America.

Your post about the NG in Ohio in 1970 only stands both newly informed and corrected.
 
Such orders are against the Geneva Conventions, the Laws of War and the Laws of Land Warfare. They are unConstitutional and illegal in the USA. Your post is oblivious.

Trump finally caved to Gen. Milley and the then SecDef Mark Esper in Lafayette Square in June 2020 when they said NO to firing on unarmed peaceful civilian American protesters expressing their dissent.

Trump knows now never again to give such an order because he would find himself having an International Arrest Warrant out on him by prosecutors at the International Criminal Court in The Hague for war crimes. And as I say, in the USA any such order is illegal and unConstitutional.

Both you and Trump have no clue of any of this, although since then the elected Generalissimo Trump has had to stifle himself about the military and domestic law enforcement. You too need to acclimate yourself to the laws of civilization and civil-military relations in the USA.
Nothing about Trump is civil. You think he's going to follow judges orders, especially now that he has surrounded himself with complete sycophants? I think you're naive.
 
That was the National Guard in 1970 during the war in Vietnam. It was at Kent State U in Ohio that had a Republican governor James Rhodes with his trigger finger. Soon before it Nixon called anti war protesters "bums" and said Rhodes was his favorite governor.

Rhodes declared martial law on the campus only which is how the NG did the lethal discharge of their weapons they never should have had ammunition for. The martial law exempted all of 'em from the governor to the NG from the civil laws. The Ohio NG has never been held accountable under civil or military laws.

The troops were not regular Army with RA NCOs and officers in the US Army chain of command. The NG did not have the discipline, education, training, awareness and active service that RA forces have. This was during the draft whereas the military since the end of the VN war are volunteer professionals who want nothing to do with dizzy draftees beside 'em.


During J6 the acting SecDef Christopher Miller who had been chief of counterintel before, and was a retired RA colonel, cited Kent State in his refusal to commit the DC NG to the Capitol until the rioting insurrectionist criminals had begun to withdraw in their failures. Miller's posture reflects what everyone at the Pentagon knows, which is that the NG -- bless 'em for their work in disaster relief -- are not reliable in instances of civil disorder.

Plus everyone knows the RA does not do law enforcement and the Potus/C'nC has no authority in any of the laws or the Constitution to impose a federal martial law. Well and actually, the federal government and martial law are not known so I'll say it again, no law authorizes a federal martial law by either the Potus/C'nC or by the Congress or by both of 'em together. While a governor can declare martial law, there is no and never has been a federal martial law in America.

Your post about the NG in Ohio in 1970 only stands both newly informed and corrected.

In my opinion, you are splitting hairs, but that's not to say I am bothered by it.

I am not.
 
Childish response.

I admit it. I hit reply and then carefully deleted nearly everything in your post I was quoting. I edited your post. I edited YOUR post! Bwahaha.
 
Nothing about Trump is civil. You think he's going to follow judges orders, especially now that he has surrounded himself with complete sycophants? I think you're naive.
Wrong.

I've never posted that and I've never said that outside of posting. Indeed and as I've noted, the whole idea of the Heritage Project 2025 is to overwhelm and overpower the federal judiciary to establish a PutinMagaTrump fascist dictatorship. You are ridicuously uninformed and misinformed to say I am naive about America's first bloodthirsty president commander in chief Generalissimo Trump.

I posted about the Geneva Conventions, the Laws of War and the Laws of Land Warfare in international conventions and the USA laws and Constitution. And that Trump would become the target of an International Arrest Warrant by prosecutors at the International Criminal Court in The Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

I have taken your wrong wrong wrong posts to task to correct 'em because they assume and presume the USA armed forces would shoot innocent unarmed civilian American citizens on orders from Trump because they will not and that the USA military demonstrated they did not at Lafayette Square in June of 2020.

As we know, Trump's Master and Mentor Vladimir Putin has an ICC international arrest warrant out on him for war crimes and crimes against humanity in his barbarian war in Ukraine. Because of his Putin did not attent a G-20 summit in Brazil because this fellow Brics member country said it would arrest him on the warrant and transport him to The Hague for arraignment and incarceration pending trial. Putin also had to stay away from a Brics summit in South Africa because its president also said, as the Brazil president had said, he would have Putin arrested under the warrant and transported to The Hague.

Many presidents and prime ministers would arrest Trump in their ICC member country if he tried to set foot there while being the subject of an ICC international arrest warrant for his war crimes against the American people. Trump would be hauled away in chains from Air Force One with the Trumper agents of his Secret Service detail acting against this at their own risk.

And I advise you strongly and with certainty that despite your nastiness toward the USA armed forces, they are not the PLA Bots at Tiananmen Square in 1989. Despite the cruel impressions of the USA armed forces in your posts, they are not mouth breathing knuckle dragging goons who go in the pointed direction to begin firing their weapons at innocent unarmed civilian citizens of the United States.

This parade is not to scare or intimidate Americans against their armed forces they created to protect and preserve 'em against all enemies foreign and domestic. This parade and its festival are designed to show the people of the USA they and their armed forces are one and the same under the Constitution and the rule of law. Your strongly negative posts against the USA armed forces vis a vis the American people have no clue whatsoever.
 
In my opinion, you are splitting hairs, but that's not to say I am bothered by it.

I am not.
The NG is under state and/or federal authority. A governor has the authority to implement martial law in the exclusive jurisdiction of the governor. A governor can decline a federal invitation to active service for a specific domestic task such as border patrol. A state NG cannot enter another sovereign state without the consent of the state.

The regular force is under federal authority only while there is no federal law or provision in the Constitution for a federal martial law. Federal troops are under the UCMJ at all times and must accept and obey all legal orders from superior officers military and civilian. Ultimately federal forces may enter a state despite the absence of consent.

The Pentagon considers the NG as unreliable in civil disorders. In the Washington DC civil disorders of the 1967 antiwar march on the Pentagon, and in the 1968 riots after Dr. King was assassinated, the DC NG was placed under the command of the Army chief of staff general who consigned the NG to the rear in favor of active duty troops from Ft. Myer, Ft. Meade and the Marine Barracks Washington. Likewise in the 1991 LA riots after the acquittal of police in the beating of Rodney King -- Army and Marine active duty forces supplanted NG troops who were dispatched to support from the rear.

The NG and active duty federal forces are two different beasts with lots of intact hairs on each. Your resistance is futile.
 
I admit it. I hit reply and then carefully deleted nearly everything in your post I was quoting. I edited your post. I edited YOUR post! Bwahaha.
You didn't edit my post are all. Its still there exactly as I wrote it.

You just quoted the part you were replying to.
 
The NG is under state and/or federal authority. A governor has the authority to implement martial law in the exclusive jurisdiction of the governor. A governor can decline a federal invitation to active service for a specific domestic task such as border patrol. A state NG cannot enter another sovereign state without the consent of the state.

The regular force is under federal authority only while there is no federal law or provision in the Constitution for a federal martial law. Federal troops are under the UCMJ at all times and must accept and obey all legal orders from superior officers military and civilian. Ultimately federal forces may enter a state despite the absence of consent.

The Pentagon considers the NG as unreliable in civil disorders. In the Washington DC civil disorders of the 1967 antiwar march on the Pentagon, and in the 1968 riots after Dr. King was assassinated, the DC NG was placed under the command of the Army chief of staff general who consigned the NG to the rear in favor of active duty troops from Ft. Myer, Ft. Meade and the Marine Barracks Washington. Likewise in the 1991 LA riots after the acquittal of police in the beating of Rodney King -- Army and Marine active duty forces supplanted NG troops who were dispatched to support from the rear.

The NG and active duty federal forces are two different beasts with lots of intact hairs on each. Your resistance is futile.

You wrote:

The armed forces will not fire on unarmed peaceful American citizens demonstrating their dissent.

I simply pointed out that armed forces already have.
 
You didn't edit my post are all. Its still there exactly as I wrote it.

You just quoted the part you were replying to.

No, I quoted the whole thing, and then edited it down to just a few words before publishing it- along with my comments- on this site.
 
You wrote:

The armed forces will not fire on unarmed peaceful American citizens demonstrating their dissent.

I simply pointed out that armed forces already have.
Correction: the Army National Guard did. In 1970. There's been nothing of it since.

You went back to 1970 to find it. And it was the Army National Guard in one single state of fascism, Ohio. I pointed out moreover a governor can and did impose martial law that exempted the whole gang of executioners in Ohio against the unarmed students.

My post is in the present time and since 1970.

You'd have to go deep into US history much further before 1970 -- and before World War II -- to find any such instance of the regular force firing on innocent unarmed peaceful civilian citizens of the USA. It was usually against union movements by manufacturing workers in sweat shops.

It's a different active duty force today that your posts are adamant against recognizing, respecting, supporting. Your posts are stuck in the past and resistant about the present to include going forward.
 
Correction: the Army National Guard did. In 1970. There's been nothing of it since.

You went back to 1970 to find it. And it was the Army National Guard in one single state of fascism, Ohio. I pointed out moreover a governor can and did impose martial law that exempted the whole gang of executioners in Ohio against the unarmed students.

My post is in the present time and since 1970.

You'd have to go deep into US history much further before 1970 -- and before World War II -- to find any such instance of the regular force firing on innocent unarmed peaceful civilian citizens of the USA. It was usually against union movements by manufacturing workers in sweat shops.

It's a different active duty force today that your posts are adamant against recognizing, respecting, supporting. Your posts are stuck in the past and resistant about the present to include going forward.
Don’t forget the Bonus Army. Patton and MacArthur using tanks and troops with bayonets against veterans.
 
Don’t forget the Bonus Army. Patton and MacArthur using tanks and troops with bayonets against veterans.
Yes I am well aware of the Bonus Army, Pres. Herbert Hoover and MacArthur and all. The "Bonus Army" were indeed civilians who as we know well were veterans of WW I and the victorious Grand Army of the Republic.

The matter in this thread and topic as it has developed is the US Army and by implication the armed forces shooting unarmed peaceful civilian citizen Americans apart from veterans. At Kent State in 1970 the executioners of unarmed civilian antiwar protesters on campus who were shot and killed or wounded were the state National Guard troops acting under martial law imposed by the fascist governor of Ohio.

The Bonus Army was as I indicated pre WW II. Two of 'em were killed during a "police riot" while two others were killed when they resisted the regular Army troops busting 'em up. I'd also note civilians who are veterans of military service to include in WW I are different from civilian civilians, meaning no military service or history while having the equal protection of the law.

None of this negates or limits the fact that the post WW II Army and armed forces are not going to go around shooting innocent unarmed civilian citizens who are protesting peacefully which is what the Bloodthirsty Generalissimo commander in chief Trump insisted the Army National Guard of DC do at Lafayette Square in June 2020 against civilians objecting to the murder of George Floyd by a barbarian flatfoot cop currently doing time for it. Indeed, Gen. Milley and the then SecDef Esper told Trump to put that bloodthirsty madman notion back up from where it came to begin with.

Of course Potus Eisenhower and Potus Kennedy using active duty forces to enforce racial desegregation in AL and AR were not to shoot any civilians and indeed none were shot. Each potus/commander in chief also federalized the NG of each state that had been following the commands of the two contrarian racist governors. Regular active duty federal military have no obligation or loyalty to any governor of any state.
 
No, I quoted the whole thing, and then edited it down to just a few words before publishing it- along with my comments- on this site.
Right. There is a process. That is how you quote all or part of the persons post.

The result, as it shows here, is that my post is still there unedited. Your post quotes a part of my post.

Amazing that such a simple thing confuses you so.
 
Right. There is a process. That is how you quote all or part of the persons post.

The result, as it shows here, is that my post is still there unedited. Your post quotes a part of my post.

Amazing that such a simple thing confuses you so.

I posted an edited version of your post. I'm the one who edited it.

As you are the one who edits mine when you get stuck, and then deny you did so.
 
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