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for me personally its a no, a parade is my idea of hell! Some people need that extra pat on the back so its good for them I guess.
BTW, don't you love when public polls are posted and people are too weak to make their vote public. There are 4 no votes and only 1, jamesrage, made his public. Bravo to jamesrage for taking ownership of something he knew wouldn't be popular.
The Libbos don't think so. They want to declare the war a defeat, forget it and the troops right along with it.
They've claimed, all these years, to love the troops...until they no longer serve a purpose.
There is no anonymous way to vote in the poll as a member.
Yeah there is. Log out and then vote.
Then you are not voting as a member. It's far more likely that nonmembers are voting than that people are trying to stack the poll.
Not saying you wanted a parade. What I am saying is there was a concerted effort to ensure Desert Storm vets weren't treated like Vietnam Vets. Yes, it was a very different war and a much faster war. But, a lot people bent over backwards to make sure things were kosher when you guys came home. I think my generation has advanced that ball up the court. Parades, recognition at public events, etc help that cause. Again, this isn't a ploy by an individual to receive recognition. It is a way to make sure no vet is ever treated like Vietnam Vets were treated. Any vet on here that has ever encountered treatment like they got knows that it isn't exactly what you want to hear when you return. Imagine what it would be like if it were socially acceptable like it was in the 60's.As to your topic, when I came home from the first gulf war, the last thing I personally could have cared about was a parade, and would have been annoyed to have to take part in one. However, if cities can afford it and want to have one, great. I did not realize that somehow this was some big controversy.
No, I'm not saying they are trying to stack the pole. Just saying some people don't want others to see how they voted so they don't vote publicly.
Not saying you wanted a parade. What I am saying is there was a concerted effort to ensure Desert Storm vets weren't treated like Vietnam Vets. Yes, it was a very different war and a much faster war. But, a lot people bent over backwards to make sure things were kosher when you guys came home. I think my generation has advanced that ball up the court. Parades, recognition at public events, etc help that cause. Again, this isn't a ploy by an individual to receive recognition. It is a way to make sure no vet is ever treated like Vietnam Vets were treated. Any vet on here that has ever encountered treatment like they got knows that it isn't exactly what you want to hear when you return. Imagine what it would be like if it were socially acceptable like it was in the 60's.
I think we treat our vets now as well or better than we ever have. I used to do volunteer work for the local VA hospital when I lived in Michigan, and I can tell you that those people who work for the VA really care about taking care of vets and will go way above the requirements of the job to help people out.
I agree. We just have to make sure we don't rest on our laurels and let it get bad again.
How about a parade that also celebrates American pride & patriotism? Is that too much to ask of a liberal?I am in full support of these events as long as they are not styled as "victory parades," but rather a simple welcoming home of the troops and a show of appreciation for their service.
Go to another thread. This isn't the thread for rhetoric. StillBallin obviously said he supported exactly what you're saying. You're attempt at instigation has fallen short.How about a parade that also celebrates American pride & patriotism? Is that too much to ask of a liberal?
I've also got to come home both ways. I like the one on one homecoming as well. The crap you have to do when you come home with a unit is ridiculous. The single guys could care less how fast things get done, the friggin weapons turn in takes FOREVER, you have to appease officers (who haven't deployed in 5 years) ego's by letting the public affairs photographer get the perfect shot of you coming off the bus, its a fiasco.I think it would make my hubby feel uncomfortable. He doesn't even know how to act when people approach him to thank him for his 'service'. The first time he came home we had a welcome home ceremony which was nice. It was a cool way to share the experience with other families that couldn't wait to wrap their arms around their Soldier. The second time he came home(which was this past Christmas) he came home individually and it was just me and the kids welcoming him home. It was nice b/c we got to take him straight home, no checking in weapons, no waiting to be released etc. It was more intimate, but at the same time part of me missed the way he came home the first time since that's what I'm used to and it's more ''celebratory''.
How about a parade that also celebrates American pride & patriotism? Is that too much to ask of a liberal?
Go to another thread. This isn't the thread for rhetoric. StillBallin obviously said he supported exactly what you're saying. You're attempt at instigation has fallen short.
A very valid one because the mayor of New York declined to have on in their city. No NYC Parade For Iraq War Veterans, Says Mayor Bloomberg. If the mayor of the most important city in America says that, its a problem.no... we should say screw you i cannot believe you served our country and then shun them. what kind of question is that?
To explain my views a bit clearer - I think a parade would be a good idea, but when it comes to help for veterans, that's not even close to being a solid first step.
The average civilian has no idea what war can do to a human being, to his/her mind and body, and as much as we, the general population, like to pay lip service towards thanking the troops and appreciating their service, the fact is that when they come home there are numerous challenges they face socially just trying to integrate themselves back into society and working a job if they decide to leave the service. Personally I think programs that help people get by with those things would mean a lot more than a parade.
A very valid one because the mayor of New York declined to have on in their city. No NYC Parade For Iraq War Veterans, Says Mayor Bloomberg. If the mayor of the most important city in America says that, its a problem.
I think we treat our vets now as well or better than we ever have. I used to do volunteer work for the local VA hospital when I lived in Michigan, and I can tell you that those people who work for the VA really care about taking care of vets and will go way above the requirements of the job to help people out.
I have a better idea for you. Instead of parading, why don't you go and volunteer to work at a Veterans hospital. Or better yet, volunteer for the military yourself. You want to honor veterans? Become one!
You know, I served in a war and I didn't expect anybody to give me a parade. Frankly, when I got home from Vietnam the last thing I wanted was a parade. A job was what I really wanted.
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