Weather and Climate Disasters Are Declining Globally

[Mr Person]

Nice attempt to deflect from the facts.

Two things can be true. Climate change caused an unprecedented winter wildfire. And people lost lives and homes because of it.

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It's gold. Not only can @PoS not answer your challenge, but he engaged in the prime logical fallacy when he squawked "fallacy!" at you. It's abject failure at every step of the way, and he doesn't get it.

****ing gold.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Statistics from the first nine months of 2021 saw the largest number of billion-dollar disasters in a calendar year so far, with 2021 on pace for second behind 2020, which was an all time high.
From January through the end of September, the U.S. has experienced 18 weather and climate disasters that each cost more than $1 billion.
Additionally, 538 people have died from the disasters, which is more than twice the number of deaths from all billion-dollar disasters that occurred in 2020.

What happens when you factor in population, number of building changes, and inflation?

I've done the numbers before when such claims were made some years ago. When adjusting for population and inflation, the costs were less. Not more. Consider that. Maybe do the calculations and see if you wish to maintain that same opinion.

 

[KingLeo]

What happens when you factor in population, number of building changes, and inflation?

I've done the numbers before when such claims were made some years ago. When adjusting for population and inflation, the costs were less. Not more. Consider that. Maybe do the calculations and see if you wish to maintain that same opinion.

Creative accounting to try to overlook the bottom line top end increase in damages related to more frequent and more violent storms.

 

[Lord of Planar]

You are determined to never, never look up.

I have before. Be my guest. Look it up.

I don't care if anyone believe me or not.

It is up to you if you want to believe gossip, or look at the facts.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Creative accounting to try to overlook the bottom line top end increase in damages related to more frequent and more violent storms.

How can you say that with certainty when you only look at costs?

 

[PoS]

Nice attempt to deflect from the facts.

Two things can be true. Climate change caused an unprecedented winter wildfire. And people lost lives and homes because of it.

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LOL doubling down on the appeal to emotion fallacy again! LMAO.

Extreme Weather Events Have Increased Significantly in the Last 20 Years​

Extreme Weather Events Have Increased Significantly in the Last 20 Years

e360.yale.edu

Climate change: Big increase in weather disasters over the past five decades​

Climate change: Big increase in weather disasters over the past five decades

Floods, storms and extreme events increase five-fold but the number of people dying in them fell.

www.bbc.com

LOL dont you read your own links? It proves my point since those hyperbolic headlines are using the economic damage model in trying to prove that storms are worse. Its not science. Good job on proving me right!

Appeal to screaming idiocy. Bad job, no potato.




PSA: the guy does not appear to understand how things work. Like, at all.

He says that he knows AGW is false because if it were true, then the number of articles he has come across about rising ocean levels would mean that Everest would be under the waves.

He says that he knows AGW is false because it was really cold one single day in this one English town when he felt it was *supposed* to be hot.

And now, his own article says:

"Of course, don't use data on disasters to say anything about changes in weather or climate"

LOL incoherent neurotic babbling that has nothing to do with the subject matter detected again. Good job on making yourself look bad, Mr. P. I always knew you had it in you.

 

[code1211]

It's a conspiracy!

No. It's a moronic interpretation of an article despite the article itself warning against exactly what the OP did.

I'm always confused by posters who amputate a sliver of a thought and then respond to that sliver as if it is the whole thought.

 

[watsup]

I'm always confused by posters who amputate a sliver of a thought and then respond to that sliver as if it is the whole thought.

At least your first three words are correct.

 

[ecofarm]

I'm always confused by posters who amputate a sliver of a thought and then respond to that sliver as if it is the whole thought.

The article itself advises against creating the OP because that would be misconstruing the article and misrepresenting the data. Then someone did exactly that. Right here.

But you didn't read the article or Mr. Person's citation above, did you. You don't know the article itself says "don't do what the OP did". How sad and pathetic is that.

And you want to defend it? Sink with the ship.

 

[KingLeo]

LOL doubling down on the appeal to emotion fallacy again! LMAO.


LOL dont you read your own links? It proves my point since those hyperbolic headlines are using the economic damage model in trying to prove that storms are worse. Its not science. Good job on proving me right!


LOL incoherent neurotic babbling that has nothing to do with the subject matter detected again. Good job on making yourself look bad, Mr. P. I always knew you had it in you.

I see you will continue to ignore the facts that severe storms are becoming more common, affecting more people, and causing more financial and economic damage.
That's OK, live with your head in the sand.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Extreme Weather Events Have Increased Significantly in the Last 20 Years​

Extreme Weather Events Have Increased Significantly in the Last 20 Years

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This Yale (activist college group) link refers to a UN (activist global group) link which refers to a report. If you read that report, you find the disasters they list include volcanoes and earthquakes.

I challenge you to break it down to make sense for us.

 

[Lord of Planar]

i think the funniest thread was that it was snowing at Lake Tahoo...

Isn't it less common for it not to snow there?

 

[CaughtInThe]

Isn't it less common for it not to snow there?

It's evidently, by itself, proof of something.

 

[Mr Person]

LOL doubling down on the appeal to emotion fallacy again! LMAO. LOL dont you read your own links? It proves my point since those hyperbolic headlines are using the economic damage model in trying to prove that storms are worse. Its not science. Good job on proving me right LOL incoherent neurotic babbling that has nothing to do with the subject matter detected again. Good job on making yourself look bad, Mr. P. I always knew you had it in you.

Is that supposed to be English? Oh right. Dumbassed revenge-trolling. Now, here's a reminder about the actual subject, since I am not it:

I'm not even going to bother explaining what is amazingly stupid from drawing the conclusion "there is no reason to worry about CC," especially when the article our denier cited includes things like this:

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More stupid cherry-picked bullshit from OP, and naturally he didn't even notice that nobody on Earth ever citied extreme weather as the only reason to fight CC

omg, his article even says: "Pielke properly cautions, "Of course, don't use data on disasters to say anything about changes in weather or climate — data on specific weather and climate variables are always more appropriate for tracking changes in climate." Data such as global temperature and precipitation trends"

So he does exactly that. Nice one, @PoS.

Able to speak about a subject that isn't one of your pathetic little grudges? There it is. Try doing it for once.

 

[watsup]

This Yale (activist college group) link refers to a UN (activist global group) link which refers to a report. If you read that report, you find the disasters they list include volcanoes and earthquakes.

I challenge you to break it down to make sense for us.

“Climate-related disasters jumped 83 percent — from 3,656 events during the 1980-1999 period to 6,681 in the past 20 years. Major floods have more than doubled, the number of severe storms has risen 40 percent, and there have been major increases in droughts, wildfires, and heatwaves.”

Extreme Weather Events Have Increased Significantly in the Last 20 Years

e360.yale.edu

And you are basically lying in respect to “including volcanoes and earthquakes”.

“ There has also been a rise in geophysical events including earthquakes and tsunamis which have killed more people than any of the other natural hazards under review in this report.”

The human cost of disasters: an overview of the last 20 years (2000-2019)

UNDRR report published to mark the International Day for Disaster Risk Reduction on October 13, 2020, confirms how extreme weather events have come to dominate the disaster landscape in the 21st century.

www.undrr.org

Please note that they say that there has “ALSO BEEN” an increase in purely geophysical events, which clearly indicates that they have NOT included those events in their discussion of climate events, per se. They are an add-on. You should know by now that we almost always catch the dishonesty of the deniers, just as I did with Longview a couple of times last week,

 

[Lord of Planar]

“Climate-related disasters jumped 83 percent — from 3,656 events during the 1980-1999 period to 6,681 in the past 20 years. Major floods have more than doubled, the number of severe storms has risen 40 percent, and there have been major increases in droughts, wildfires, and heatwaves.”

Extreme Weather Events Have Increased Significantly in the Last 20 Years

e360.yale.edu

Hey. If you wish to believe what is not more than a student college news article, then be my guest. I see you didn't go to the source material like I did.

And you are basically lying in respect to “including volcanoes and earthquakes”.

Really? Please elaborate. I only said that these were included in disaster they talked about.

“ There has also been a rise in geophysical events including earthquakes and tsunamis which have killed more people than any of the other natural hazards under review in this report.”

The human cost of disasters: an overview of the last 20 years (2000-2019)

UNDRR report published to mark the International Day for Disaster Risk Reduction on October 13, 2020, confirms how extreme weather events have come to dominate the disaster landscape in the 21st century.

www.undrr.org

Please note that they say that there has “ALSO BEEN” an increase in purely geophysical events, which clearly indicates that they have NOT included those events in their discussion of climate events, per se. They are an add-on. You should know by now that we almost always catch the dishonesty of the deniers, just as I did with Longview a couple of times last week,

OK now, run the numbers.

 

[VanceMack]

Fewer extreme weather events is an indicator of global warming. Unless of course there are more events in which case, obviously that is an indicator of global warming.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Fewer extreme weather events is an indicator of global warming. Unless of course there are more events in which case, obviously that is an indicator of global warming.

That is it, isn't it.

No matter what change we see....It is blames on global warming.

And they wonder why they are considered a joke.

 

[Threegoofs]

That is it, isn't it.

No matter what change we see....It is blames on global warming.

And they wonder why they are considered a joke.

Don’t look up!

LOL

 

[watsup]

If you read that report, you find the disasters they list include volcanoes and earthquakes.

Again, they include the geophysical disasters as an add-on and do NOT lump them, as your statement implies by not noting it, with those that may have been enhanced by climate change.




Really? Please elaborate. I only said that these were included in disaster they talked about.

You are hilarious. You ask me to “please elaborate”, which I had already done IN MY LAST PARAGRAPH WHICH YOU DELETED and did not address. The depth of your dishonesty knows no bounds, does it?

 

[watsup]

That is it, isn't it.

No matter what change we see....It is blames on global warming.

And they wonder why they are considered a joke.

It is those who have nothing but denier talking points that are the “joke”.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Again, they include the geophysical disasters as an add-on and do NOT lump them, as your statement implies by not noting it, with those that may have been enhanced by climate change.




Really? Please elaborate. I only said that these were included in disaster they talked about.

You are hilarious. You ask me to “please elaborate”, which I had already done IN MY LAST PARAGRAPH WHICH YOU DELETED and did not address. The depth of your dishonesty knows no bounds, does it?

Wow.

Rationalize much?

 

[watsup]

Hey. If you wish to believe what is not more than a student college news article, then be my guest. I see you didn't go to the source material like I did.

Ummm—you “went to the source” and then MISREPRESENTED what it actually said. DUH!

 

[watsup]

Wow.

Rationalize much?

I seek the truth. If you are afraid of it, that is not my problem.

 

[PoS]

I see you will continue to ignore the facts that severe storms are becoming more common, affecting more people, and causing more financial and economic damage.
That's OK, live with your head in the sand.

LOL when your only proof is insurance costs instead of actual meteorological data, then yeah, your facts arent very solid, so keep your emotional charades to yourself.

Is that supposed to be English? Oh right. Dumbassed revenge-trolling. Now, here's a reminder about the actual subject, since I am not it:



Able to speak about a subject that isn't one of your pathetic little grudges? There it is. Try doing it for once.

LOL aww, he's run out of fallacies. Since you cant delve into any facts, then all you can do is whine about it?