Perhaps this is why I buy ammo by the case.Everything about our country spells doom.
Unlimited access to ammo aside, I completely disagree, this country is toast.
The new generation of kids is awful, spoiled, disobedient and lazy; nothing dooms us more than that fact.
sure... you can buy hollow point, full metal jacket, polymer coated ammo that will pierce kevlar body armor. Who says otherwise?I ordered 1000 rounds of USGI 5.56 ammo – the current stuff, with the AP steel core - and it’s being shipped via UPS to my door.
I wonder what other countries allow this.
I ordered 1000 rounds of USGI 5.56 ammo – the current stuff, with the AP steel core - and it’s being shipped via UPS to my door.
I wonder what other countries allow this.
Your free lesson for the day:sure... you can buy hollow point, full metal jacket, polymer coated ammo that will pierce kevlar body armor. Who says otherwise?
"Monstorus" weapons? Centerfire rifles?and we are not only willing to allow our citizens to carry these monstrous weapons, we sell them to damn near anyone who asks.
Excelent use of melodrama. Let us know when you can discuss the issue with some substance.who says the an individual's right to destroy life at a rate 100 times greater than whole a legion of ceasar's foot soldiers... 10 times that of Hitlers infantry...(blah blah blah)
Yes -- freedom to exercise your rights -is- idiotic.What kind of wacko decides he lives in a great country based on the ammo he can buy legally? I'm sorry your measure of what makes a country great is idiotic.
well, assuming you mean "excellent", thanks, i like to keep in practice. never know when it will come in handy.Excelent use of melodrama.
Let us know when you can discuss the issue with some substance.
Still looking for substance. Not seeing any.QUOTE=Goobieman;1058998432]
well, actually, i said "monstrous"."Monstorus"?
well, assunin you mean "excellent", thanks, i like to keep in pratice. never know when it will come in handy.Excelent use of melodrama.
Yes. Your post was full of ignorance and melodrama, and thus devoid of valid/relevant content."us", who, round eye? you? and you... YOU criticize a post for "lack of content"?
Yes -- freedom to exercise your rights -is- idiotic.
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So? That doesnt change anything I said.0.o .. there is more to rights then bullets for your gun.
So? That doesnt change anything I said.
Not really except the underenthusiastic response to legal ammo.. kinda freakish imo. Just sayin. I don't much think it is an attribute to get excited about .. really. Argument fail.Not really except the over enthusiastic response to legal ammo.. kinda freakish imo. Just sayin. I don't much think it is an attribute to get excited about .. really. Excitment fail.
Not really except the underenthusiastic response to legal ammo.. kinda freakish imo. Just sayin. I don't much think it is an attribute to get excited about .. really. Argument fail.
Unlimited access to ammo aside, I completely disagree, this country is toast.
The new generation of kids is awful, spoiled, disobedient and lazy; nothing dooms us more than that fact.
Besides that we are in tremendous debt, spread thin militarily, a political system in gridlock pretty much defined by corruption.
Everything about our country spells doom.
You miss the point - deliberately.Well let me see. I suppose legal ammo is pretty exciting in .. third world countries.
You miss the point - deliberately.
But, that's OK -- it doesnt matter at all to me if you dont undertsand the significance of the freedoms we have, especially the one described in the OP.
Because it is worth doing so, I shall repeat myself:lmao.. yeah I'm excited about legal ammo.. prolly one of the most common legal things on the market.. like bread or w/e only with less usefulness then bread. *yawn*
Because it is worth doing so, I shall repeat myself:
It doesnt matter at all to me if you dont undertsand the significance of the freedoms we have, especially the one described in the OP.
That's OK -- there's nothing I can do about your lack of understanding, especially when it is willful.I don't understand the mentality that thinks this is such a great thing
Still looking for substance. Not seeing any.
Yes. Your post was full of ignorance and melodrama, and thus devoid of valid/relevant content.
Centerfire cartridges are more powerful since they can hold higher pressures than a similar rimfire cartridge, thus they also are more efficient for their size. For target shooting purposes, centerfire cartridges are more expensive, but for applications involving the hunting of large game they are the best choice.
the key being wearing armor appropriate to the threat. the lowest rated, Type ITo date, body armor has not been known to fail to prevent the penetration of a bullet constituting a threat equal to or less than the protection rating of the armor
not enough, i am sure, to protect a ballsy fella like yerself against the profound threats you must face (oops... sorry...) and i suppose that falls out under your qualifying "almost". Too, of course, you were specific about "Kevlar" protection. I gotta admit, i just grabbed that as the most common identifier. i know, of course that new ceramic materials provide much better protection.protects against .22 long rifle lead round nose bullets, with nominal masses of 40 grain impacting at a minimum velocity of 1050 ft/s or less, and against .380 ACP full metal jacketed round nose with nominal masses of 95gr impacting at a minimum velocity of 1025 ft/s.
You're doing a pretty good job of demonstrating that you do indeed lack knowledge - you don't need any help from me.Still, you might want to wait until i demonstrate an actual lack of knowledge. You could have nailed me on the ammo... i did not know what your ammo was actually capable of (i deduced the United States Government Issue part). No idea what "centerfire" meant... but that is not much of a lack of knowledge is it...?
No, I did. Because it did. It contained nothing but self-demonstrated ignorance and melodrama.so, you do not claim it lacks content...
Good news! This is America - and, much like the freedom to purchase large quantities of ammunition, free from governmental interference, you have the right to hold these opinions, freeom from similar interference.i think that the ease with which you purchase high powered ammunition and the prevalence of guns in criminal (and accidental) deaths is relevant. i think too, that the obsession americans have with guns and ammunition provides the makers of these materials with wealth and power and thereby a means for arming our enemies.
Um... yeah. Why don't you now work on capitalization and punctuation.oh, and thanks for the spelling corrections but I fixed the spelling errors before doing the research necessary to respond more fully ... you may note that all my posts have an edit.... because i care.
I see your search for information hasn't really helped youwell... i suppose People are pretty large.
Nothing you have posted in suppport of this statement actually supports this statement.but, according to the best sources i can find, including the National Criminal Justice Reference Service, your proposition that "Almost every ceterfire [sic] rifle round will defeat most kevlar body armor, including standard soft-point hunting rounds." is far from true.
Every generation says that about the generation under it. So I'm calling BS on that.
You're doing a pretty good job .....So... what?
the rules of capitalization have nothing to the sense of writing. completely lacking it has no impact on understandability. capitalizing as you were taught to do so in school only demonstrates your abilities to do what you are told to do. judging from your views as you express them here, i have no doubt that you are expert in doing as you are told, but not everyone considers that a virtue.Um... yeah. Why don't you now work on capitalization and punctuation.
the expertise of the individuals that provided the info if more than adequate support, especially when we consider that you have made no attempts to support anything that you have said.Nothing you have posted in suppport [sic] of this statement actually supports this statement.
untrue. you said kevlar will not protect against centerfire rifles. Level I includes centerfire rifles. so your statement is wrong. level III protects against MOST weapons available outside of the military including so-called soft point armor piercing ammo. so, your statement is wrong.All you've done is state that vests have been shown to protect the wearer from the threats they are designed to protect the wearer from. It doesn't say anything about the level of protection from threats that exceed that specified level.
thanks... according to... YOU? sorry, i do not mean to be unkind but you have yet to show your qualifications as a munitions protection testing expert. dig out that West Point Curriculum Vitae or admit to spouting wishful thinking.Level I armor, .....
the jacketed soft point hunting ammo for my Weatherby .460 is FAR better able to pennetrate [sic] body armor than the 5.56 I just bought; your exception to the ammo I did buy is based on, well, ignorance.
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