'We Currently Have No Container Ships,' Seattle Port Says (1 Viewer)

[Questerr]

D you have any actual arguments or is it just cultish “trust the dear leader” nonsense?

 

[Questerr]

The article states its down about 35%...that it happens during normal times...but if your gloom and doom is really as you project (and lets face it...Newsweek IS the biggest leftist rag pushing anti-Trump material going right now) then what you are REALLY saying is that the country is WAY too dependent on China and other suppliers.

Then the answer is to subsidize domestic manufacturers, not raise the taxes on poor and middle class people.

 

[tharock220]

https://www.nwseaportalliance.com/cargo-operations/vessel-schedules-and-calendar

There appear to be multiple container ships docked at the Port of Seattle unloading at this very moment with several incoming.

Imagine being a loser to such an extent you'd use an opinion piece to crow about an apparent bad situation at an American port. I suggest the OP try a little independent verification next time.

 

[Allan]

"We currently have no container ships," Seattle port says

Seattle port commissioner Ryan Calkins described the decline in activity as "a stark reminder" of the impact of tariffs.

www.newsweek.com

It's going to get bad in the coming months folks. It didn't have to be this way. A global tariff war was a choice made by President Donald Trump.

During his 2024 election campaigning, Donald Trump promised Prosperity, a "golden age" for America. Instead we are careening towards empty store shelves, higher prices for virtually everything, rising unemployment, and a looming recession.

You will have to get by with only two dolls. Also without toilet paper, electronics, car parts and building materials.

I'm sure it will be fine.

 

[vanceen]

Then the answer is to subsidize do mastic manufacturers, not raise the taxes on poor and middle class people.

That's an interesting point. At the worst, tariff income could be used to collect revenues which could then subsidize domestic production to offset the effect on the poor and middle class.

Unfortunately, subsidies would usually take some time to work through as lower pricing. Tariffs, I expect, will hit consumers pretty fast.

 

[Questerr]

That's an interesting point. At the worst, tariff income could be used to collect revenues which could then subsidize domestic production to offset the effect on the poor and middle class.

Unfortunately, subsidies would usually take some time to work through as lower pricing. Tariffs, I expect, will hit consumers pretty fast.

Not “pretty fast” basically immediately.

And that’s not Trump’s plan with the tariffs. He wants them to offset the tax cuts he gives the rich, with the end goal of eliminating the income tax entirely, shifting the burden of taxation onto the poor and middle class.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Make it obvious, why don't you, that ANY thread posted critical of Trump gets you crying. Like we didn't know that already, sheesh!

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

https://www.nwseaportalliance.com/cargo-operations/vessel-schedules-and-calendar

There appear to be multiple container ships docked at the Port of Seattle unloading at this very moment with several incoming.

Imagine being a loser to such an extent you'd use an opinion piece to crow about an apparent bad situation at an American port. I suggest the OP try a little independent verification next time.

Did you just call the OP a loser?

 

[vanceen]

Not “pretty fast” basically immediately.

And that’s not Trump’s plan with the tariffs. He wants them to offset the tax cuts he gives the rich, with the end goal of eliminating the income tax entirely, shifting the burden of taxation onto the poor and middle class.

I was talking about your proposal, not Trump's plan.

I seriously doubt his plans are that coherent, but I could be wrong.

 

[Questerr]

I was talking about your proposal, not Trump's plan.

I seriously doubt his plans are that coherent, but I could be wrong.

Even in my proposal, there wouldn’t be tariffs. Tax the income of the rich, don’t make prices higher for poor and middle class people.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

I seriously doubt his plans are that coherent, but I could be wrong.

What you have to realize with Trump is that he always has "concepts" of a plan.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

https://www.nwseaportalliance.com/cargo-operations/vessel-schedules-and-calendar
There appear to be multiple container ships docked at the Port of Seattle unloading at this very moment with several incoming.
Imagine being a loser to such an extent you'd use an opinion piece to crow about an apparent bad situation at an American port. I suggest the OP try a little independent verification next time.

In your opinion,

Does a vessel schedule / forecast show you how many container ships were docked there in the past,​

on the Wednesday morning when the statement was made?​

afaf

 

[reflechissez]

Not “pretty fast” basically immediately.

And that’s not Trump’s plan with the tariffs. He wants them to offset the tax cuts he gives the rich, with the end goal of eliminating the income tax entirely, shifting the burden of taxation onto the poor and middle class.

Magats don't know how anything works.

 

[Pound4abrown]

There will be layoffs at the ports and in the domestic trucking industry in short order


All thanks to Trump


And the thing is? He does not care.

And Trumpco won't either, right up until they get their pink slip.
Then it will be a catastrophe so big Trans people will be left the **** alone.

 

[vanceen]

Even in my proposal, there wouldn’t be tariffs. Tax the income of the rich, don’t make prices higher for poor and middle class people.

I wouldn't have expected your thoughts on the matter to include tariffs.

I was pointing out how tariffs could play a role, however, in providing government revenue to fund subsidies. At least in principle. But not shotgun tariffs like Trump has initiated.

 

[Taylor]

There may well be a serious problem, but the statement from the Seattle port commissioner is not too convincing.

He says that empty berths is something that happens from time to time (if only rarely), but then immediately says that the particular emptiness he's observing now is a "stark reminder" of something. And all the rest is conjecture.

Reasonably plausible conjecture, in my estimation. But this statement does not contain information that legitimately leads to the confusion that it's all about to hit the fan.

Again, maybe it is, but this statement isn't evidence in itself.

Yep. The NWSA (marine cargo operating partnership for Seattle) says shipping traffic is normal. There are, however, reports of less cargo on ships. Of course, we had reports of more cargo on ships as a surge in purchases were made prior to tariffs kicking in.

 

[Taylor]

What are you even talking about? Do you know?

Don't know why you're having so much trouble. The post was pretty easy to understand.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

That's an interesting point. At the worst, tariff income could be used to collect revenues which could then subsidize domestic production to offset the effect on the poor and middle class.

Unfortunately, subsidies would usually take some time to work through as lower pricing. Tariffs, I expect, will hit consumers pretty fast.

So that's what they are calling it these days? I guess "Trickle Down" is kind of dated, right?

We subsidize big oil. We subsidize corporate farmers. We subsidize big pharma. We subsidize damn near every other big industry. The reality is these subsidies are designed to prop up prices, not lower them.

 

[redbeer]

D you have any actual arguments or is it just cultish “trust the dear leader” nonsense?

Poking fun at the doom and gloom obstructionists, negative nellies galore herein, lol. The sky is falling hysterics was too predictable, for the left has nothing else to do. All you have is to perpetuate negative, obstructionist threads as are happening.....it's really your only choice or path to follow.

 

[Mycroft]

"We currently have no container ships," Seattle port says

Seattle port commissioner Ryan Calkins described the decline in activity as "a stark reminder" of the impact of tariffs.

www.newsweek.com

It's going to get bad in the coming months folks. It didn't have to be this way. A global tariff war was a choice made by President Donald Trump.

During his 2024 election campaigning, Donald Trump promised Prosperity, a "golden age" for America. Instead we are careening towards empty store shelves, higher prices for virtually everything, rising unemployment, and a looming recession.

He'll have ships in a week.

But the important thing is that China isn't shipping anything.

If it bothers you that you won't be able to buy that cheap Chinese junk, too bad.

 

[redbeer]

https://www.nwseaportalliance.com/cargo-operations/vessel-schedules-and-calendar

There appear to be multiple container ships docked at the Port of Seattle unloading at this very moment with several incoming.

Imagine being a loser to such an extent you'd use an opinion piece to crow about an apparent bad situation at an American port. I suggest the OP try a little independent verification next time.

OOOOPS!!!! Chock this up to another hyper partisan bs thread.....one of many.

 

[reflechissez]

Don't know why you're having so much trouble. The post was pretty easy to understand.

Was I talking to you, HomeSlice?

 

[Callen]

Poking fun at the doom and gloom obstructionists, negative nellies galore herein, lol. The sky is falling hysterics was too predictable, for the left has nothing else to do. All you have is to perpetuate negative, obstructionist threads as are happening.....it's really your only choice or path to follow.

You have no concerns about the serious drop in imports arriving at American ports as a result of tariffs?

 

[VanceMack]

https://www.nwseaportalliance.com/cargo-operations/vessel-schedules-and-calendar

There appear to be multiple container ships docked at the Port of Seattle unloading at this very moment with several incoming.

Imagine being a loser to such an extent you'd use an opinion piece to crow about an apparent bad situation at an American port. I suggest the OP try a little independent verification next time.

But...but...its pandelerium! We might all die or maybe worse!!!

 

[BirdinHand]

The NWSA (marine cargo operating partnership for Seattle) says shipping traffic is normal

Citation?