Wayne Lapierre is a nutjob.

[Lutherf]

How many times do I have to say it my friends. Gun safety is not the same as taking your guns away. Lapierre is trying to outrage the gun crazies into thinking otherwise in spite of majorty opinion. What is wrong with some common sense changes to gun laws when nobody is going to take your sacred guns away. Wise up NRA.

Wake the hell up!!!!

This is an extremely common rifle - a Ruger 10/22


It comes with a standard 10 rd magazine and larger capacity magazines are readily available so it could easily be a target of much of this proposed gun legislation.

Now, look at this proposed MO statute banning "assault weapons"

(1) "Assault weapon", any:

(a) Semi-automatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:

a. A pistol grip or thumbhole stock;

b. Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;

c. A folding or telescoping stock; or

d. A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel;

I highlighted subsection (d) because if you read that definition and look at the rifle you will see that the stock does indeed "partially encircle the barrel" and also allows the shooter to hold the firearm with his or her non-shooting hand without getting burned. That means that under this statute the Ruger 10/22, a staple item in gun collections across America, is an "assault weapon".

Note that this law is following the guidance of the Brady "Single Feature" test and a "barrel shroud" is part of that test. It is a popular definition for lawmakers across the country and if it is allowed to continue along these lines it will effectively outlaw pretty much everything except bolt action rifles with fixed magazines.

 

[Master PO]

This guy speaks in bumper sticker rhetoric and is a disgrace to all gun owners in this country. The vast majority of Americans including NRA members support 100% background checks,Clip restrictions and a ban on assalt guns so what is this man problem? The crap he is spewing is backward thinking and out of the mainstream.

so this is a beat up Wayne Lapierre thread, because you disagree with him.

so call him and everyone else who does not share you point of view, a nutjob, or whatever name you can think of.....

the only reason i can even see traction of this thread, is to beat-up , call names ....by progressives ------> this is childish

 

[mak2]

OK, that's funny.

Really? I thought he was married? Where they going on their date?

 

[Danbury]

so this is a beat up Wayne Lapierre thread, because you disagree with him.

so call him and everyone else who does not share you point of view, a nutjob, or whatever name you can think of.....

the only reason i can even see traction of this thread, is to beat-up , call names ....by progressives ------> this is childish

You make a very valid and excellent point. If only progressives would show Wayne LaPierre the same respect regressives show Obama.

 

[Mycroft]

This guy speaks in bumper sticker rhetoric and is a disgrace to all gun owners in this country. The vast majority of Americans including NRA members support 100% background checks,Clip restrictions and a ban on assalt guns so what is this man problem? The crap he is spewing is backward thinking and out of the mainstream.

LOL!!

He must be doing SOMETHING right...if he's got the likes of you frothing at the mouth.

 

[Master PO]

You make a very valid and excellent point. If only progressives would show Wayne LaPierre the same respect regressives show Obama.

whether its a ...i hate obama thread.... to i hate, anyone else thread, they are ridiculous.

because really its just a personal rant, against someone who that person disagrees with.

nothing wrong with a a disagreement among ideas......but personal comments, that reduces any point the person is trying to make to its lowest possible denominator.

 

[Danbury]

whether its a ...i hate obama thread.... to i hate, anyone else thread, they are ridiculous.

because really its just a personal rant, against someone who that person disagrees with.

nothing wrong with a a disagreement among ideas......but personal comments, that reduces any point the person is trying to make to its lowest possible denominator.

Interesting, considering you specifically ascribed it to progressives in your comment, which ironically, is doing exactly that about which you are complaining.

 

[haymarket]

It is really too bad old Ted is such a great guitarist because he is a complete moron on everythig else. I can't believe he talks about family values when he has sex with hundreds og groupies and fathered counless children and went tru several wives who left him for adultry while firing bandmembers for smoking pot. Oh by the way testical Ted had a chance to be a American hero and play with guns all the time but he was a draft dodger instead. What a winner.

Having been born and raised in the Detroit area and coming of age in the Sixties, it is ironic that Nugent was not really any big deal in those days. His band the Amboy Dukes were one hit wonders who were basic middle of the line-up performers. I saw countless shows where local groups like the MC5, Scot Richard Case (SRC) or Savage Grace would come on after them and simply surpass anything the Dukes could do.

 

[Master PO]

Interesting, considering you specifically ascribed it to progressives in your comment, which ironically, is doing exactly that about which you are complaining.

did you miss this ?.......whether its a ...i hate (obama) thread.... to i hate, anyone else thread, they are ridiculous.

if you don't agree with a person that is fine...i don't agree with obama at all, however i don't call him names, i just disagree with his policies, the administration.

if some created the "obama is a stupid fool" thread i would feel the same,...because it is a personal rant.....i don't need to jump on another person's soapbox and follow their lead, .......when i speak my own mind, and use my mind to convey ideas, not name calling or hateful comments.

 

[jamesrage]

How many times do I have to say it my friends. Gun safety is not the same as taking your guns away..

Gun safety is not the same thing as ****ting on the 2nd amendment.What you anti-2nd amendment whack jobs are proposing is not gun safety.When you anti-2nd amendment whack jobs are trying to ban civilian firearms and standard capacity magazines for those firearms under the guise of an assault weapons and high capacity magazine ban then yes you are trying to take away guns.

Lapierre is trying to outrage the gun crazies into thinking otherwise in spite of majorty opinion.

Lapierre's job is to stand of up for 2nd amendment rights, not **** all over them like you anti-2nd amendment whack jobs are trying to do.

What is wrong with some common sense changes to gun laws when nobody is going to take your sacred guns away. Wise up NRA

Banning civilian firearms and standard size 15-30 round magazines for those firearms is not common sense gun safety.Many of the same anti-2nd amendment whack jobs proposing these bans are indeed wanting to take away these firearms.

 

[Samhain]

The AWB is written to ban guns based on their look. That should give a clue as to how clueless the supporters should be.

 

[jamesrage]

Yeah, your tone here really inspires me with confidence about your respect for my Constitutional and human right to keep and bear arms.

No more compromises. It's long past time for the hoplophobes and the cowards to start making compromises with us.

I agree with that. We started out in any state being able to buy any kind of firearm we wanted and even any magazine capacity we wanted. We didn't need a back ground check. We didn't need a license to open carry or conceal carry.We most certainly didn't need a license/permit to buy a firearm. We didn't need to ask the government permission to buy a firearm.Slowly over time through incrementation that has changed and in many states the right to keep and bear arms is a state granted privileged must like driving or running a business instead of an actual constitutional right. Every gun rights and 2nd amendment advocate should say we have had enough giving its time for the anti-2nd amendment side and other hoplophobes to start giving.

 

[Danbury]

did you miss this ?.......

No. but apparently you don't remember this: "the only reason i can even see traction of this thread, is to beat-up , call names ....by progressives ------> this is childish"
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[Master PO]

No. but apparently you don't remember this: "the only reason i can even see traction of this thread, is to beat-up , call names ....by progressives ------> this is childish"
'

well if you will see, your not going to get conservatives to call Wayne Lapierre a nut-job in this thread.

the thread was created by a liberal /progressive, and it was created for the purpose of name calling, because its directly in the title of the thread.

do you find the term (progressive), which i used a derogatory?

i find this thread to be a beat-up thread on a sole individual.... Lapierre, by progressives, .....because they oppose Lapierre the NRA.

i am quite sure if it was a "obama is a nut-job" thread, i or you could find conservatives calling him names also.

name calling is not..... exclusive to progressives.

 

[TurtleDude]

This guy speaks in bumper sticker rhetoric and is a disgrace to all gun owners in this country. The vast majority of Americans including NRA members support 100% background checks,Clip restrictions and a ban on assalt guns so what is this man problem? The crap he is spewing is backward thinking and out of the mainstream.

stop lying. Most people do not support the infrastructure needed to make all gun sales subject to background checks such as complete registration of all firearms. You using the term clip means you have no clue what you are talking about and no most people don't think everytime there is a killing perpetrated by someone using a weapon that features a magazine that is already illegal in that state, the act justifies even further restrictions. You still cannot spell "assault" and there is no SUCH THING AS AN ASSALT GUN.

what is funny is that you think these laws will prevent criminals from having them yet you proudly proclaim decades long violation of federal narcotics laws.

 

[TurtleDude]

I am just saying Obama does have a mandate. I am as pro gun as anyone, just pointing out the facts.

YOu are as pro gun as anyone? interesting. I haven't seen that in your posts. How does Obama have a mandate to rape our rights? he was too scared to even make gun gun control a major part of his campaign. He might have said ONCE he favored reinstating the silly cosmetic clinton gun law and the now clearly unconstitutional magazine restriction but his party sure was pretty quiet on that issue

 

[mak2]

You better go back and re read my post and look up the definition of mandate. You don't get to tell me what I think then argue with it. Try again.

YOu are as pro gun as anyone? interesting. I haven't seen that in your posts. How does Obama have a mandate to rape our rights? he was too scared to even make gun gun control a major part of his campaign. He might have said ONCE he favored reinstating the silly cosmetic clinton gun law and the now clearly unconstitutional magazine restriction but his party sure was pretty quiet on that issue

 

[TurtleDude]

You better go back and re read my post and look up the definition of mandate. You don't get to tell me what I think then argue with it. Try again.

uh I really don' think doing that would be useful. but thanks for the suggestion

 

[mak2]

Yea, that's what I thought.

uh I really don' think doing that would be useful. but thanks for the suggestion

 

[TurtleDude]

Actually Obama does have a mandate. He was reelected.

Did he run on gun bans? NO he actually ran away from that issue