We don't care. We shower with gays, eat with gays, bunk with gays...it's not a problem.
Clearly there is an inconsistancy in what you are saying, I'm just trying to find out if you realize that.
I do not believe there is an inconsistancy in my beliefs on this topic. If you do, fine. That's your problem, not mine.
Is admitting your inconsistancy that bad?
I just showed you where the inconsistancy was. You said you respect the military (and the SEALS) which have values and morals of that which you do not respect. You have also pointed that those that voluntarily support such an organization with morals and balues you do not agree with are just as guilty.
Is admitting your inconsistancy that bad?
What if I told you.....Homosexuality is more than just a violation of 'traditional morals'. It destroys individuals, attempts to destabilize the family and rots a nation across....
What if I told you.....Homosexuality is more than just a violation of 'traditional morals'. It destroys individuals, attempts to destabilize the family and rots a nation across....
I'd say your nuts. Next?
The word that pops out is.....nuts?...lol
I would ask how.
Black soldiers are no more "fully integrated" now than they were 30 years ago. Anyone that believes there isn't racism in the Army is a fool. And not just a bit. And not just one way.
The Army is falling apart and this will do nothing but hasten the problem.
What if I told you.....Homosexuality is more than just a violation of 'traditional morals'. It destroys individuals, attempts to destabilize the family and rots a nation across....
I do know that you cannot live two lifestyles in the military and that open homosexuality as a life style is incompatible with military service.
Open homosexuality does not change just DADT. Once that happens they will have to change DOMA, allow marriage and let them move into housing. And THAT will cause problems.
There is no good reason to do this and every reason not to. Service in the US military is not a right. Every country that has allowed it is a shell of their former military selves if they were ever any good at all. Open homosexuality is not the cause, it's a symptom. But it is real.
It is much like the females. We kid ourselves. We say "They are fully integrated, they're just as good, it's ok." In some cases it is close to the truth. There are some very good female soldiers. No matter how good they are, they aren't the same. And we don't do different well.
Black soldiers are no more "fully integrated" now than they were 30 years ago. Anyone that believes there isn't racism in the Army is a fool. And not just a bit. And not just one way.
The Army is falling apart and this will do nothing but hasten the problem.
I'd say this is the most ignorance I've seen displayed in quite a while.
Misinformation, myths, and denial do not make for "fact" or informative debate.
I do know that you cannot live two lifestyles in the military and that open homosexuality as a life style is incompatible with military service.
Open homosexuality does not change just DADT. Once that happens they will have to change DOMA, allow marriage and let them move into housing. And THAT will cause problems.
There is no good reason to do this and every reason not to.
"They are fully integrated, they're just as good, it's ok." In some cases it is close to the truth. There are some very good female soldiers. No matter how good they are, they aren't the same. And we don't do different well.
Black soldiers are no more "fully integrated" now than they were 30 years ago. Anyone that believes there isn't racism in the Army is a fool. And not just a bit. And not just one way.
Aren't you worried you'll catch gay?
So what you're saying is you are for blacks and women NOT being integrated into the military?
Just like ANY organization, there are bad apples. We could kick all the minorities, gays, and women out of the military and there would STILL be rapes on civilians, murders, and a heap of other bad behavior. It's about as stupid as saying if there were no guns, there would be no more murder. While you would lower the death to guns, you wouldn't eliminate deaths.
Just like you wouldn't elimiate bad behavior if you took out minorities, women, and gays.
I do know that you cannot live two lifestyles in the military and that open homosexuality as a life style is incompatible with military service.
Yes, women should be taken out of the military, because they refuse to meet the same standard as men. It's not only PT, it's behavior, accommodation and job performance as well.
What is it exactly that women "refuse" to do? Not being snide here. Honestly don't know, and would like to know.
(sorry for the thread-jack)
Male soldiers are never "focused" on the "wrong" thing?
Who's in charge?
Yesterday was a perfect example: Planning a surprise 21st b-day party for a female soldier was more important than clearing the foot of snow off the 300x300ft landing zone.
I'd say you are provably wrong.
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