Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?[W:192]

[Hawkeye10]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

The last election seemed to demonstrate that beginning to end.

Tons of people have long been trying to convince me that Trump is a man-child.

What if they are right about that?

That is what wins....

Answer me that.

:shock:

 

[ballantine]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Explanation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-pen...trump-team-will-not-protect-us-063728742.html

I say no, THat the statement that they are "alarmed" " that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights," was an unproven opinion about somebody else, which made this rude and passive aggressive BS.

What say you?

I'm sure Vice President-Elect Pence is smart enough to see this for exactly what it is: a bunch of butt-hurt liberals expressing their pain.

Unfortunately Mr. Pence is much too nice a guy to fire back at these misguided liberals, but IMO it's vitally important for them to understand that the Progressives went too far and that the Progressive agenda is dead for the next eight years.

Hey man, I don't care if you're gay, straight, or anything in between. You could be a little purple hermaphrodite from Alpha Centauri for all I care. But once you start asking me to make law so you can feel good about yourself, I start thinking about my nine year old daughter and her rights, like her right to take a pee free from the fear of having to share her bathroom with a grown man.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

I'm sure Vice President-Elect Pence is smart enough to see this for exactly what it is: a bunch of butt-hurt liberals expressing their pain.

Unfortunately Mr. Pence is much too nice a guy to fire back at these misguided liberals, but IMO it's vitally important for them to understand that the Progressives went too far and that the Progressive agenda is dead for the next eight years.

Hey man, I don't care if you're gay, straight, or anything in between. You could be a little purple hermaphrodite from Alpha Centauri for all I care. But once you start asking me to make law so you can feel good about yourself, I start thinking about my nine year old daughter and her rights, like her right to take a pee free from the fear of having to share her bathroom with a grown man.

Can you explain how a "nice guy" can support electroshocking gays until they change who they are? Do you consider someone who wants to deny equal rights to minority groups he finds icky to be "nice"?

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Explanation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-pen...trump-team-will-not-protect-us-063728742.html

I say no, THat the statement that they are "alarmed" " that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights," was an unproven opinion about somebody else, which made this rude and passive aggressive BS.

What say you?

If I pay money to see a show, that's what I want to see. If they insist on bludgeoning me with their personal political message then I want my money back. False advertisement.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

If I pay money to see a show, that's what I want to see. If they insist on bludgeoning me with their personal political message then I want my money back. False advertisement.

I wonder if there were any boos...I bet not, I bet that those hicks from flyover country who were visiting NYC and taking in a show understood perfectly well that they were expected to keep their pie holes shut.

whaddya think?

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Are you really trying to say Mike 'Conversion Therapy Helps Stop HIV' Pence would want to do anything to those gay actors?

Well, he IS "rabid", after all. :roll:

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Inalienable rights. They're a bunch of liberal douchebags, which pretty much universally reject the concept of inalienable rights. They might as well be atheists telling people they're going to hell. :lamo I love people that don't understand philosophy and then use it in their arguments as it's always hilariously ignorant.

 

[joG]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Tons of people have long been trying to convince me that Trump is a man-child.

What if they are right about that?

That is what wins....

Answer me that.

:shock:

Our culture likes youth of mind and hidden bodily age.

 

[Ahlevah]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

This made me love Hamilton even more. <3

I wouldn't know. I've never seen it. I priced a pair of tickets when my wife and I visited Chicago recently, but I decided to pass when the cheapest ones I found from the theater box office would have set us back more than $600 for a 1:30 weekday matinee. We went to Symphony Hall on election night instead and took in Mozart and Berlioz, where the average age of the almost lily-white audience must have been north of sixty. (During intermission, I checked the election results on Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight, where they still gave Hillary a 71% chance of winning. :doh) Then we went to our hotel (in Willowbrook--cheaper ), where we flipped on the TV

and got the shock of our lives! :allhail

Anyway, I guess as a working-class stiff (apparently, also an angry, white working-class stiff because I voted for Trump, with all the "privilege" that goes with that), I'll have to wait until they make a Hamilton movie musical and then catch it on Netflix, as will much of the rest of Flyoverland. :shrug: Maybe by then liberals will get why the Democratic Party went from 257 seats in Congress when Obama took office to 194 when he leaves it and why one third of those come from three states on opposite coasts.

 

[Ahlevah]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

What say you?

I say no, it was inappropriate, because Pence as a holder of one of those nose-bleed tickets had every right to enjoy the evening without having the cast interject politics into it. Instead, Lin-Manuel Miranda should have taken a small fraction of his millions to get some emotional support service dogs for his cast members.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Considering Pence is rabidly anti-gay and anti-science, it's perfectly reasonable to point out to him that it makes you very, very concerned. Pence would have many of the actors who are gay stripped of their basic human rights.

If you can't be a vice president to all Americans you shouldn't be one at all. I hope this is the first of many times Pence is called out on his hatred and ignorance.

Can you define 'rabidly anti-gay'? How do you reconcile the absolute FACT that at the time Obama took office his position on gay marriage MIRRORED Pence's position and HRCs position on gay marriage only 'evolved' a year ago?
Hypocrites...the lot of you. When a rat politician holds a position in opposition to your precious causes there is always a pathetic excuse as to why there is opposition...but its a 'nuanced' opposition. When the conservative politician disagrees with you they are a rabid hate filled bigot.

You KNOW how full of **** you are...right?"

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Can you define 'rabidly anti-gay'? How do you reconcile the absolute FACT that at the time Obama took office his position on gay marriage MIRRORED Pence's position and HRCs position on gay marriage only 'evolved' a year ago?
Hypocrites...the lot of you. When a rat politician holds a position in opposition to your precious causes there is always a pathetic excuse as to why there is opposition...but its a 'nuanced' opposition. When the conservative politician disagrees with you they are a rabid hate filled bigot.

You KNOW how full of **** you are...right?"

Pence thinks it's ok to electroshock the gay out of people in gay conversion therapy, that such horrible bull**** should be publicly funded, and he rejects the fundamental human and constitutional right to marry. He opposes any and all discrimination protections for the LGBT community. You can dance around waving your hands pretending that doesn't matter, but to a lot of people it does.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Pence thinks it's ok to electroshock the gay out of people in gay conversion therapy, and he rejects the fundamental human and constitutional right to marry. You can dance around waving your hands pretending that doesn't matter, but to a lot of people it does.

Horse****. Your position is the same regardless of which conservative politician dares to disagree with your liberal causes. Pence is just the latest.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Horse****. Your position is the same regardless of which conservative politician dares to disagree with your liberal causes. Pence is just the latest.

What's horse ****? Pence supports gay conversion therapy and thinks it should be publicly funded, he opposes any and all discrimination protections for the LGBT community, and wants them stripped of their basic human rights. These were on his website and they're things he's directly said and supported. Keep lazily yelling bull**** while not even attempting to explain why that's actually not rabidly anti-gay.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

What's horse ****? Pence supports gay conversion therapy and thinks it should be publicly funded, he opposes any and all discrimination protections for the LGBT community, and wants them stripped of their basic human rights. These were on his website and they're things he's directly said and supported. Keep lazily yelling bull**** while not even attempting to explain why that's actually not rabidly anti-gay.

Your fauxrage might be relevant if your position wasnt identically applied to every single conservative that disagrees with gay marriage. Every election. Every discussion on this site.

Bull**** isnt 'lazy', its an apt description of your pathetic response to every republican that doesnt agree with you.

 

[JC Callender]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Are you really trying to say Mike 'Conversion Therapy Helps Stop HIV' Pence would want to do anything to those gay actors?

What conversion therapy did Pence suggest? And do you know the leading cause of HIV?

 

[Ockham]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Explanation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-pen...trump-team-will-not-protect-us-063728742.html

I say no, THat the statement that they are "alarmed" " that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights," was an unproven opinion about somebody else, which made this rude and passive aggressive BS.

What say you?

The ignorance and irrational and unfounded opinions the cast and ownership of this play displayed was embarrassing. Perhaps if the crew weren't so biased and borderline bigoted themselves, their views may be taken more seriously. As it stands, it's just sour grapes given when Hillary saw the play, there were hugs and kisses backstage.

 

[JC Callender]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Pence thinks it's ok to electroshock the gay out of people in gay conversion therapy, that such horrible bull**** should be publicly funded, and he rejects the fundamental human and constitutional right to marry. He opposes any and all discrimination protections for the LGBT community. You can dance around waving your hands pretending that doesn't matter, but to a lot of people it does.

Mike Pence Supported 'Gay Conversion' Therapy? : snopes.com

 

[Ockham]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Mike Pence Supported 'Gay Conversion' Therapy? : snopes.com

Let's not let facts get in the way of progressive hyperbole and misinformation memes. :shrug:

 

[bubbabgone]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Explanation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-pen...trump-team-will-not-protect-us-063728742.html

I say no, THat the statement that they are "alarmed" " that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights," was an unproven opinion about somebody else, which made this rude and passive aggressive BS.

What say you?

“Everybody should be able to see this show, regardless of their politics, but it does just so happen that the politics of this administration have been so negative toward minorities, people of color, gay people that we felt the need to speak up. As a cast comprised of minorities, women, gay people, it was necessary. We had to speak. We had to express how we feel.”

Like Coulter said, we're drowning in drama queenery these days.

 

[bubbabgone]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

What's horse ****? Pence supports gay conversion therapy and thinks it should be publicly funded, he opposes any and all discrimination protections for the LGBT community, and wants them stripped of their basic human rights. These were on his website and they're things he's directly said and supported. Keep lazily yelling bull**** while not even attempting to explain why that's actually not rabidly anti-gay.

How many times do you have to be shown your mistake before you stop making the same one?

 

[code1211]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Explanation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-pen...trump-team-will-not-protect-us-063728742.html

I say no, THat the statement that they are "alarmed" " that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights," was an unproven opinion about somebody else, which made this rude and passive aggressive BS.

What say you?

I think it's cute. Like a child that picks up a stick and say's, "Bang!" pretending it's real.

The actors are idiots. They are cute and and talented parrots.

The comments were intended to be cruel, hurtful and public. I have seen the work of Pence as a citizen of Indiana. He is a good man with good results.

The actors are petty marionettes prejudiced beyond anything that is rational and are judging this good man by their own vile, self centered and partisan bigotry.

They are being celebrated by other bigots motivated by hate and partisan ideology.

 

[code1211]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

This made me love Hamilton even more. <3

Why?......

 

[late]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Like Coulter said, we're drowning in drama queenery these days.

Coulter is the ultimate drama queen...

 

[code1211]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Considering Pence is rabidly anti-gay and anti-science, it's perfectly reasonable to point out to him that it makes you very, very concerned. Pence would have many of the actors who are gay stripped of their basic human rights.

If you can't be a vice president to all Americans you shouldn't be one at all. I hope this is the first of many times Pence is called out on his hatred and ignorance.

I live in Indiana and know and enjoy many people who are minority, gay, straight and white.

They people the social stations up and down the social scales, whichever scale you may wish to select. Education, the arts, government and workplace.

Pence was/is the Governor of Indiana. Are you resting your opinion of what the man has actually done, his actual record of results, or on what the political hacks that you seem to revere have told you to believe?