Was Ted Kaczynski right?

[dimensionallava]

High on life brotha. And this cocaine sure smells good.

cocaine? you know that stuff comes from mexico you hypocrite, I thought you guys did crystal meth anyway??

 

[Tigerace117]

sure it does? the two biggest nuclear powers are both christian countries? what are you talking about?

Not the same thing. As you probably well know.

There's a difference between having a lot of Christians and being a Christian country.

 

[truthatallcost]

cocaine? you know that stuff comes from mexico you hypocrite, I thought you guys did crystal meth anyway??

Actually, cocaine comes from Peru or Colombia. Crystal Meth comes from Mexico.

 

[dimensionallava]

There's a difference between having a lot of Christians and being a Christian country.

well theres only 3 religous countries iran saudi arabia and the Vatican... theres a difference between a state that forces everyone to be christian, and state that is 99% christian, 83% of americans identify as christian. So its a christian majority nation, the same way pakistan is muslim majority nation, in the same sense that america is an english speaking nation, even though theres no law requiring you to speak english, understand?

but anyway lets try to bring this back on topic the comparisons to christianity in america versus jucheism in north korea, were brought up because you claimed their religion is somehow more forced upon them, not which is more violent, or has more nukes. You are no less indoctrinated to beleive in christianity and that the president is your leader, than the north koreans are indoctrinated to beleive in jucheism or follow the kim family.

nationalism is a disease

 

[Tigerace117]

well theres only 3 religous countries iran saudi arabia and the Vatican... theres a difference between a state that forces everyone to be christian, and state that is 99% christian, 83% of americans identify as christian. So its a christian majority nation, the same way pakistan is muslim majority nation, in the same sense that america is an english speaking nation, even though theres no law requiring you to speak english, understand?

but anyway lets try to bring this back on topic the comparisons to christianity in versus jucheism in north korea, were brought up because you claimed their religion is somehow more forced upon them, not which is more violent, or has more nukes. you are no less indocrinated to beleive in christianity and that the president is your leader, than the north koreans are indoctrinated to beleive in jucheism or follow the kim family.

nationalism is a disease

Dude. It's ****ing North Korea. Your not going to be able to trivialize their ****ness

I saw the documentary---you know, the one where those eye doctors go to North Korea to help with people who need corrective surgery?

I remember the part where post op, nobody even thanked the doctors. Instead they all turned to a picture of the Kim that was in charge at the time and thanked it instead.

 

[dimensionallava]

Dude. It's ****ing North Korea. Your not going to be able to trivialize their ****ness

I saw the documentary---you know, the one where those eye doctors go to North Korea to help with people who need corrective surgery?

I remember the part where post op, nobody even thanked the doctors. Instead they all turned to a picture of the Kim that was in charge at the time and thanked it instead.

USA has committed far worse atrocities than north korea, and its tiny population. and your not gong to convince any north korean soldier otherwise, maybe you should read up on what the usa did to korea during the korean war

also if the USA cared so much it would lift the sanctions it has over north korea, it has no problem backing the three worst human rights abusers in the world right now, so dont think for a second anyone in the US military cares about prison labor outside pyongyang, the USA alone accounts for 22% of the global prison population. We have 10 milion people in jail almost half the entire population of north korea

 

[Tigerace117]

USA has committed far worse atrocities than north korea, and its tiny population. and your not gong to convince any north korean soldier otherwise, maybe you should read up on what the usa did to korea during the korean war

also if the USA cared so much it would lift the sanctions it has over north korea, it has no problem backing the three worst human rights abusers in the world right now, so dont think for a second anyone in the US military cares about prison labor outside pyongyang, the USA alone accounts for 22% of the global prison population. We have 10 milion people in jail almost half the entire population of north korea

Lol sure bud:roll:

Are you sure you want to play the atrocity card? Because I'd love it. I'm dying for you to try to play the atrocity card.

Maybe North Korea shouldn't have tried to annex South Korea if it didn't want to get ripped apart by war. eace

So yeah. Let me know if you want to play the atrocity card. I have another dozen incidents I can rattle off for you.

 

[dimensionallava]

Lol sure bud:roll:

Are you sure you want to play the atrocity card? Because I'd love it. I'm dying for you to try to play the atrocity card.

Maybe North Korea shouldn't have tried to annex South Korea if it didn't want to get ripped apart by war. eace

So yeah. Let me know if you want to play the atrocity card. I have another dozen incidents I can rattle off for you.

the point is you dont have to vote, you dont have to respect any soldiers, you dont have to be loyal to any flag, you dont have to feel pride or feel lucky for being born in america, and you dont have to stand for the pledge of allegiance

 

[Tigerace117]

the point is you dont have to vote, you dont have to respect any soldiers, you dont have to be loyal to any flag, you dont have to feel pride or feel lucky for being born in america, and you dont have to stand for the pledge of allegiance

Of course, if you don't do any of that stuff, I consider you ungrateful at best and (more likely) a dumbass. But then again, unlike in North Korea, you don't have to show how loyal you are to the state.

 

[dimensionallava]

Of course, if you don't do any of that stuff, I consider you ungrateful at best and (more likely) a dumbass..

thats a terrible to way to think, not only about other people, but about yourself.

Its also hypocritical to say your voting for the libertarian party a candidate that stands virtually no chance of winning the election, while claiming people who dont vote are stupid and/or ungrateful. how can you say this while saying you disagree with 99% of the american electorate, that you hate both the current president and both potential future presidents. Youve said yourself that your upset about money in politics your claiming the media is bias and driven by an agenda of somekind, your complaining about corruption in your political system and that the entire american electoral system is so dysfunctional that anybody who wins in november will not be a decent president or is even a decent person. Yet at the same time you claim anyone who isn't loyal to their flag is an ungrateful dumbass? is this hypocrisy or a more psychological cognitive dissonance?

Are you really loyal to your government (or really to anyone outside your friends and family)? Or are you just using these concepts and beliefs for you own personal gain, to hold people in judgement and to claim your own superiority in order to secure your own place in the social hierarchy?

 

[Thoreau72]

thats a terrible to way to think, not only about other people, but about yourself.

Its also hypocritical to say your voting for the libertarian party a candidate that stands virtually no chance of winning the election, while claiming people who dont vote are stupid and/or ungrateful. how can you say this while saying you disagree with 99% of the american electorate, that you hate both the current president and both potential future presidents. Youve said yourself that your upset about money in politics your claiming the media is bias and driven by an agenda of somekind, your complaining about corruption in your political system and that the entire american electoral system is so dysfunctional that anybody who wins in november will not be a decent president or is even a decent person. Yet at the same time you claim anyone who isn't loyal to their flag is an ungrateful dumbass? is this hypocrisy or a more psychological cognitive dissonance?

Are you really loyal to your government (or really to anyone outside your friends and family)? Or are you just using these concepts and beliefs for you own personal gain, to hold people in judgement and to claim your own superiority in order to secure your own place in the social hierarchy?

It is a terrible way to think, but it's quite fashionable these days. Groupthink is in high regard these days. Orwell was prescient.

 

[Mark F]

It is a terrible way to think, but it's quite fashionable these days. Groupthink is in high regard these days. Orwell was prescient.

So why do you keep doing it then? Just because yours is a different group doesn't make it any better.

 

[Tigerace117]

thats a terrible to way to think, not only about other people, but about yourself.

Its also hypocritical to say your voting for the libertarian party a candidate that stands virtually no chance of winning the election, while claiming people who dont vote are stupid and/or ungrateful. how can you say this while saying you disagree with 99% of the american electorate, that you hate both the current president and both potential future presidents. Youve said yourself that your upset about money in politics your claiming the media is bias and driven by an agenda of somekind, your complaining about corruption in your political system and that the entire american electoral system is so dysfunctional that anybody who wins in november will not be a decent president or is even a decent person. Yet at the same time you claim anyone who isn't loyal to their flag is an ungrateful dumbass? is this hypocrisy or a more psychological cognitive dissonance?

Are you really loyal to your government (or really to anyone outside your friends and family)? Or are you just using these concepts and beliefs for you own personal gain, to hold people in judgement and to claim your own superiority in order to secure your own place in the social hierarchy?

Do you honestly think either Hilary or Trump are decent people? I'm certainly not going to vote core somebody just because those political parties are the ones which have always won.

Last time I checked, one vote does not decide an election. The Libertarian Party may not win, but the better showing they have maybe the more Republican and Democratic establishment will have to actually think about the way they've been acting.

As for disagreeing with the vast majority of the American populace.....isn't that your shtick? How many people, if you go up to the, on the street, do you think would actually say communism is a good system of governance and we should have it here in America?

I'm loyal to the country of the United States of America. No matter which dumbasses try to run for president I'll always be loyal to her.

 

[psikeyhackr]

I used to think this guy was a luddite loon, but now I'm not so sure. AI and automation continue to kill our jobs.

As a society we are not doing a competent job of coping with technology but saying Kaczynski was right is a bit extreme.

We do not do a competent job of teaching people to cope with technology or wealth. What is the sense of making 4 years of English Literature mandatory in high school but none of accounting even though double-entry accounting is 700 years old. The US should have benn on a 3-day work week by 1990 and most Americans should have homes paid for. Instead our nitwit economists won't even talk about the Planned Obsolescence of automobiles.

And regarding the AI crap most computer courses con't do a good job of explaining the von Neumann architecture. IBM didn't explain it and I used to work there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNN_tTXABUA

psik

 

[dimensionallava]

Do you honestly think either Hilary or Trump are decent people? I'm certainly not going to vote core somebody just because those political parties are the ones which have always won.

Last time I checked, one vote does not decide an election. The Libertarian Party may not win, but the better showing they have maybe the more Republican and Democratic establishment will have to actually think about the way they've been acting.

As for disagreeing with the vast majority of the American populace.....isn't that your shtick? How many people, if you go up to the, on the street, do you think would actually say communism is a good system of governance and we should have it here in America?

I'm loyal to the country of the United States of America. No matter which dumbasses try to run for president I'll always be loyal to her.

her? lol so now america is a woman who needs you to defend her?

the difference between me and you is im not scolding people on their need to vote, or to be grateful for the men and women who died for blah blah blah.

 

[mike2810]

her? lol so now america is a woman who needs you to defend her?

the difference between me and you is im not scolding people on their need to vote, or to be grateful for the men and women who died for blah blah blah.

First part I have no opinion. A person can vote or not. I don't care.

Got to ask then. What is your opinion of those who have died in service of their country?

 

[Tigerace117]

her? lol so now america is a woman who needs you to defend her?

the difference between me and you is im not scolding people on their need to vote, or to be grateful for the men and women who died for blah blah blah.

Many countries are personified as female. England and I guess Germany would be the exceptions(the Vaterland---fatherland).

Of course not. After all, that would go against your fantasies of a revolution, right?

 

[dimensionallava]

What is your opinion of those who have died in service of their country?

well first clarify the question for me, do you mean whats my opinion of people who have died for my country? or people who have died for any country?

 

[dimensionallava]

Many countries are personified as female. England and I guess Germany would be the exceptions(the Vaterland---fatherland).

you shouldn't be personifying or anthropomorphizing a country, it lines in the dirt not a person.

 

[Tigerace117]

you shouldn't be personifying or anthropomorphizing a country, it lines in the dirt not a person.

People do it all the time. People also personify weather, cars, etc. It's not anything out of the ordinary.

 

[calamity]

I can see why you'd agree with him.

Totally

 

[mike2810]

well first clarify the question for me, do you mean whats my opinion of people who have died for my country? or people who have died for any country?

How about you start by clarifying your statement of "... or to be grateful for the men and women who died for blah blah blah."?

We can start with "my country"?
If you choose you can give your opinion on "who have died for any country"

(expected answer from you). (second lets clarify how they died and for what purpose). :mrgreen:

I see a pattern of a troll here.

 

[BitterPill]

It is having a super huge library with a lot of crap in it, and not having the slightest clue how to use it, because the schools dont have the slightest interest in providing education anymore, they do indoctrination, and our culture coddles lazy winners who refuse to help pull the wagon.

Who are the coddled and lazy winners failing to help pull the wagon?

 

[dimensionallava]

People do it all the time. People also personify weather, cars, etc. It's not anything out of the ordinary.

 

[dimensionallava]

How about you start by clarifying your statement of "... or to be grateful for the men and women who died for blah blah blah."?

We can start with "my country"?
If you choose you can give your opinion on "who have died for any country"

how do you know "my country" isn't north korea?

Now Im assuming you have some nationalistic ranting diatribe for me, about "remembering the maine" or some nonsense....