oldreliable67
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foreign investment
Not for people who don't have an education because thanks to something called foreign investment
Which takes away from American jobs
War on Poverty
ANAV said:Let's say we raise the minimum wage to $6.00 an hour. And some company that makes buttons employees 100 minimum wage employees. It would cost the company an additional $1,248,000 per year in wages. That company is going to raise its price of buttons being sold to a shirt company that employs 1,000 people.
That 1,000 employee shirt company is going to pay an additional $12,480,000 a year in wages. To offset the increased expense of wages and the initial cost increase of the bottons that company will raise the price of the shirt to retailers.
Now lets say there are 100,000 people employed by all the retailers that sell that shirt. That means those companies pays an additional $1,248,000 a year in wages. How do you think the retailer is going to offset the increased wage expense, the increased price of the shirt from the shirt makers, and the price of all other goods affected by the minimum wage increase?
So while a drastic increase in minimum wage will appear to be a good idea initially, it would drive inflation through the roof. People would be making more, but paying more everything they buy.
People would reduce the amount of good and services they purchase driving the economy into a recession.
oldreliable67 said:"comfortably"? Why comfortably? How do you define "comfortably"?
KCConservative said:I don't know where the WMD's are, Dave. I know that they were once there. So did Bush, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Pelosi, Boxer, Kerry and so on. Are they liars too, Dave?
Now where's the lie?
Che said:There are 1.2 billion people living in poverty as of the late 90's.That means 1 out of every 6 people is dead broke. Why don't we use the billions of dollars that we are wasting now on a war for oil that's based on lies, and put it towards ending poverty?
Red_Dave said:How du know they where onece there? because those in government told you? The fact that saddam never used the w.m.ds against us when we attacked and the lack of w.m.ds in iraw now surgests to me that there wherent any
KCConservative said:Everyone, except maybe you, are in agreement that Saddam had WMD. He used them against his own people, for crying out loud. Answer the question. Are Gore, Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer, Pelosi liars too?
Thankfully we didn;t play by your book. Are you going to answer the question?Red_Dave said:he used chemical weapons with out help, [see iran-iraq war and look at who suporrted sadam] but not weapons of mass destruction. In my book a weapon of mass destruction would be something that destroyed on a large scale, like a nuke
KCConservative said:Thankfully we didn;t play by your book. Are you going to answer the question?
"That's only because they need a market in America."
oldreliable67 said:Che,
No, they already had a market here. There is one and only reason that foreign mfr's have plants here: because they can produce their products here at a competitive price and be close to their market. Whichobviously begs the question: if those foreign companies can do it, why can't GM and Ford dot it as well? The answers are several, but they all boil down to these:
1) American mfr's have been perceived to be of lesser quality than non-US mfg vehicles. Edmunds.com notes that the average incentive for non-US mfgrs is $1,500 per vehicle while that for US mfgs is $3,500 per vehicle. Edmunds attributes this difference to the willingness of buyers to pay a 'bounty' for better perceived quality. To their credit,GM and Ford have been moving up in the JD Power quality rankings, but it may be too little, too late.
2) American mfrs have made some poor business decisions: in terms of health care and retiree benefits, the average US vehicle has about 3 times the cost of non-US vehicles.
3) American mfrs have been slow to respond to changes in the market. The greater flexibility of the non-US mfrs has permitted them to stay on top of consumer preferences. If it weren't for SUV's and pickups, GM and Ford might have been gone already.
oldreliable67 said:Che,
I'm well aware of who Che Guevara was, as well as who he widely thought to be. I wonder if you are. A lot of myth, almost cult like, has grown up around Che, helped along by Hollywood and the media. Look a little closer and you'll find that he was a thug and murderer. Read here for another view.
Red_Dave said:As i have explained before they are either mistaken or lying. It is unlikely bush was mistaken. Mind you he plainly knows alot more about chemical weapons than me. Look at falluja
Che said:He only sparked revolutions. I know all this because recently I read a biography of his life.
I see people in the US on welfare that have a 50 inch HD TV, Playstation, and two cars. The government needs to only assist those who truly deserve it. Cut the others off and force them to work a 40 hour work week. People will respect the money they earn and spend it more wisely then.
Slantedfacts said:How about looking at the title of this topic with a different slant . . .
People hollar about getting rid of poverty.
Isn't THAT what is actually happening in Iraq?
Aren't there MORE satellite dishes and cell phones than ever before in the history of Iraq?
Haven't they even opened up their own stock exchange too?
It has been a war that has reduced a lot of poverty!
IN this country - poverty is a result of personal choices.
Back in 1973 I ran away from home at the age of 15 - 9-years ago I finally stopped feeling sorry for myself and started doing FOR MYSELF!
Now, with a 9th grade education:
- I own a new home that no one else ever lived in before me - nothing fancy - it appraised at about $125,000.00 brand new.
- got a 2001 Lariat with all the whistles and bells.
- got a 2004 M6 with the luxury and sport package
- got a 1970 Coup De Ville convertible that runs like a top!
So, when I here how poor people need help - I personally know that they need to start by helping themselves.
There is an old saying:
You Can Lead A Horse To Water BUT You Can't Make Him Drink!
. . . . . AND . . . . .
You can show the poor how to do better - but you can't make them!
When you were going to school did you give up part of your grade to help another student who chose to get waisted and play doctor instead of studying?
Look at the difference between the conservative and liberal ways to see the same thing.
Conservative: the unschooled chose to do different from those who were aiming to make a good life for themselves.
Liberal: The poor people didn't have a chance.
The Successful Chose To: take on a ton of loans and debt to get more schooling.
The Poor Chose To: hung out and hit the next party - some became an unprepared parent.
The Successful Chose To: Go after a profession
The Poor Chose To: Go after a job at a fast food joint (and complained about low wages!)
So; can someone explain to me - why successful people must pay for another person's poor choices?
HOW IS THAT FAIR?
yes, so like I said these foreign companies are huring as much as they're helping
Technocratic_Utilitarian said:What a wonderful strawman of reality this post was.
The Real McCoy said:Then you should know he was a loser. Every revolution he was involved in was a failure (save for Cuba) and the Cuban revolution was a disaster anyway. Look at that country today, one of the poorest in the world. I'm willing to bet that biography you read took an extreme leftist view on his life and failed to mention plenty of things about him.. Otherwise, you probably wouldn't idolize him unless you really are insane.
They're very proud people. They have an amazing sense of national pride that no other country I know will ever have.
Che said:The only reason it actually ran was because of American tourists.
Che said:You can never expect Cuba to become a super power because it's a island whose products are boycotted by the worlds biggest economy.
Che said:Have you ever been to Cuba? I have and I can tell you something about the people there. They may not be wasteful obese pigs with millions of dollars sticking out their a$$, but they are proud. They're very proud people. They have an amazing sense of national pride that no other country I know will ever have.
The Real McCoy said:Look at that country today, one of the poorest in the world.
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