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As defined by me. Frankly, I've become a bit of a believer in this. Since the laws of supply and demand do not apply to labor, and since employers are all infinitely able to pay higher labor costs out of magical profits, I say we raise the minimum wage to $50 an hour, and we can all have above-average income!
No stupid is letting corporate non humans have rights under the constitution.
I've thought this many times. Why not just raise the minimum wage to a number that makes us all wealthy and that would fix all the problems for everyone. We'd be rolling in dough and people could pay for a nice house with a two car garage and a couple nice cars to go in it from just a minimum wage job flipping burgers. It's only because the evil rich want to hold us all back that this hasn't happened already.
Yeah! We should be able to do whatever we damned well please to those corporations! When charged or sued, they should have no rights whatsoever to defend themselves. When we are passing laws to soak them, they should have no right to freedom of speech in order to tell their side of the story. We should be able to sack and pillage them with utter impunity. Rights? I say f*** them and their rights. We should just bend them all over and rape them as we please. Then we'd have the greatest prosperity ever.
Well, I"m just happy to have been part of
your growth. Remember, it's the journey that's important, not the destination. So long as the destination is liberalism. Because otherwise, you're a racist.
And clearly everyone will still aspire to work hard construction jobs or some other high stress occupations, requiring many years of extra education/training that pay little more than being a Walmart greeter or a McBurger flipper. We can then all be HS dropouts, recrational drug (ab)users and still have a guaranteed opportunity for a "middle class" lifestyle. Naturally, our social "safety net" programs will increase their benefit levels to exceed this new minimum wage level threshold.
Why not take this concept of wage "fairness" one tiny step further and use the federal tax code to establish a maximum wage? After all, it is not "fair" (equal?) that one person's labor be compensated based on its market value and not another.
Only humans have rights. Corporations should have no rights.
Only humans have rights. Corporations should have no rights.
Good point. Humans lose their rights once they decide to work together.
Only humans have rights. Corporations should have no rights.
And, given that people do not make decisions on how to allocate their time, resources, or labor based on taxes, we could use the hundreds of billions raised to give us all extra free stuff! This plan is perfect!!!
Since humans own corporations, human rights would tend to pass through the corporation, anyway. Not sure what you want to try to accomplish that you are barred from doing because of "rights" issues but it doesn't sound very honest or decent.
so someone flipping a burger, should be paid the same as someone like myself who has to do training every month and has to have a license to preform his job, which takes 2 years to acquire.
were I have to use my brain to figure out electrical and mechanical problems....I don't think that's going to work.
Exactly Republicans saw to that by passing anti union laws.
Some humans own corporations some are only owned by corporations owning other corporations and just create paper trails to hide and steal. They use the laws that give corporations individual rights to harm individuals.
Do they? How do they use laws that give corporations individual rights to harm individuals? What "individual rights" are leveraged in such an onerous fashion?
See Enron. I had friends that worked there. Hundreds of corporations created to hide money and liabilities.
Each paper corporation had rights and could not just be investigated.
But it must work. It's only right to completely disassociate "earnings" with the concept of "earning" anything. It should be arbitrarily set by the government to insure everyone that works has everything they want out of life. I mean, why should a burger flipper make less than you just because his job takes no skill, training or intelligence, isn't challenging or difficult and millions and millions of people could do it standing on their head?</sarcasm>
But they WERE investigated. So how can you say they weren't?
But it must work. It's only right to completely disassociate "earnings" with the concept of "earning" anything. It should be arbitrarily set by the government to insure everyone that works has everything they want out of life. I mean, why should a burger flipper make less than you just because his job takes no skill, training or intelligence, isn't challenging or difficult and millions and millions of people could do it standing on their head?</sarcasm>
Right that is how we found they gamed the system with fake companies. Had investigators had authority to look at the books perhaps the disaster could have been avoided.
What makes you think the investigators didn't have the authority to look at the books? What did "corporations with individual rights" have to do with the fact that crimes were not caught before they were committed (as is so often the case in this world).
Well when the rolling blackouts occurred Enron's lawyers used Privacy and other individual liberty arguments to delay and hide.
to an extent, you gotta have money to make money. Hard to upskill when you can't gain experience or afford more education.
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