True, but that doesn't mean to ignore the signs when they appear. He also said (Luke 21):Mark 13 (KJV)
32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
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Only the Father knows of the end of days. No one else. That's what Jesus said.
You think you're the first person to use the Bible to predict the end of days? I can't count the number of people who've done it since I've been alive. It seems every forum on the web has an end of days forecaster.True, but that doesn't mean to ignore the signs when they appear. He also said (Luke 21):
“There will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
and...
“Be on guard, so that your hearts will not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day will not come on you suddenly like a trap; for it will come upon all those who dwell on the face of all the earth. But keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
Whether we're seeing these signs now or not - dunno. But at the very least they ought to perk us up, put us on our guard, and remind us to keep alert for the possibility of His coming.
Well, that wasn't what I posted - in fact, 1) I agreed with your post, that no one knows when - not even Jesus Himself. And 2) I said - "Whether we're seeing these signs now or not - dunno."You think you're the first person to use the Bible to predict the end of days? I can't count the number of people who've done it since I've been alive. It seems every forum on the web has an end of days forecaster.
All of them spend a lot of time and energy. All of them have Biblical quotes. All of them have reasonable examples from the news of the day. This has been happening since The Revelation of St. John the Divine first appeared. How many have been right so far?
(Counts on fingers, carries the 1, mumbles) oh, ZERO. So I'm going to stick with Jesus and believe no one one knows.
However, you seem to enjoy working on this. As long as you don't convince people to give away all their worldly goods and sit on a lonely hilltop somewhere, as many have done before you, you're good with me.
Fair enough.Well, that wasn't what I posted - in fact, 1) I agreed with your post, that no one knows when - not even Jesus Himself. And 2) I said - "Whether we're seeing these signs now or not - dunno."
All my post acknowledged was the need to be alert. Nothing more.
Interesting developments in the world seems to be compatible with what is prophesied to come before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
The prophecy of Joel talks about the Middle East after Israel has come back to her land.
Joel 2
30 “And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth:
Blood and fire and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
Could that be a description of a nuclear blast?
When a nuclear device is exploded, a large fireball is created. Everything inside of this fireball vaporizes, including soil and water, and is carried upwards. This creates the mushroom cloud that we associate with a nuclear blast, detonation, or explosion. Radioactive material from the nuclear device mixes with the vaporized material in the mushroom cloud. As this vaporized radioactive material cools, it becomes condensed and forms particles, such as dust. The condensed radioactive material then falls back to the earth; this is what is known as fallout.
https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/emergencies/nuclearfaq.htm
The sun turned into darkness refers to a, “nuclear autumn?” A “nuclear winter?”
Nuclear winter is a severe and prolonged global climatic cooling effect that is hypothesized[1][2] to occur after widespread firestorms following a large-scale nuclear war.[3] The hypothesis is based on the fact that such fires can inject soot into the stratosphere, where it can block some direct sunlight from reaching the surface of the Earth. It is speculated that the resulting cooling would lead to widespread crop failure and famine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter
Didn't Jesus say some people alive in His day would see the end of days?With respect, the end times have been predicted to be the current times for all of time.
I'm not aware of Him ever saying that. Perhaps you're thinking of this in Luke 9:Didn't Jesus say some people alive in His day would see the end of days?
What's that supposed to mean?Christians will be right about the apocalypse even if they have to cause it themselves just to make the point.
I bow to your interpretation of the quote I was too lazy to look up. It's only fair.I'm not aware of Him ever saying that. Perhaps you're thinking of this in Luke 9:
For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory, and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. But I say to you truthfully, there are some of those standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God.”
But there He's talking about His crucifixion and resurrection, which ushered in the kingdom of God.
Actually, Jesus is referring to the transfiguration, where Peter, James, and John witnessed a vision of Jesus coming in power in the kingdom of God...this occurred on a mountain sometime after Passover of 32 CE, quite a while before Jesus’ final trip to Jerusalem and his death and resurrection...Matthew 17:1-9; Mark 9:2-10; Luke 9:28-36...I'm not aware of Him ever saying that. Perhaps you're thinking of this in Luke 9:
For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory, and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. But I say to you truthfully, there are some of those standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God.”
But there He's talking about His crucifixion and resurrection, which ushered in the kingdom of God.
Uh, it was written in plain English.What's that supposed to mean?
Mark 13 (KJV)
32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
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Only the Father knows of the end of days. No one else. That's what Jesus said.
With respect, the end times have been predicted to be the current times for all of time.
If the Mets come back and win the division it will surely be the beginning of the end as they would need divine intervention to accomplish that feat.
It's as relevant as talking about a book predicting the end of the world. More so since there's have a chance.????
You think you're the first person to use the Bible to predict the end of days? I can't count the number of people who've done it since I've been alive. It seems every forum on the web has an end of days forecaster.
All of them spend a lot of time and energy. All of them have Biblical quotes. All of them have reasonable examples from the news of the day. This has been happening since The Revelation of St. John the Divine first appeared. How many have been right so far?
(Counts on fingers, carries the 1, mumbles) oh, ZERO. So I'm going to stick with Jesus and believe no one one knows.
However, you seem to enjoy working on this. As long as you don't convince people to give away all their worldly goods and sit on a lonely hilltop somewhere, as many have done before you, you're good with me.
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