[W:775]Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

[Athanasius68]

That Trump said he was willing to commit an act that is in fact a felony is not hypothetical.

Like has been said, the Clinton campaign, the Obama Admin, received foreign information about Trump.

 

[Athanasius68]

Name the specific felony she committed, please.

It must be the same one Trump is allegedly proposing to violate.

 

[Athanasius68]

Name the specific felony she committed, please.

It must have been the same one Trump has allegedly posed to violate.

 

[pamak]

Re: [W:775]Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

It seems to have been forgotten that anti-Trump information was received by the Obama Admin from Russia. And that administration used it against Trump.

You forgot that it is you who tried to argue that it was the Russian government which gave anti-Trump information to the Obama administration. The FBI (including the FBI under the directors nominated by Trump and approved by the Senate) does not accept your narrative.

 

[Athanasius68]

please provide links. thank you.

Links to what? The foreign information that supposedly supported the narrative that Trump and Russia conspired?
Please. You've been around here too long to plead ignorance of this.

 

[j-mac]

LOL I showed you that we BUY much of our uranium from Russia, far more than we can produce here. It is not a national security resource we have plenty of nukes on our ICBM's. It is apparent that you don't like the free market and want govt. to control our natural resources. That is strange don't you think? Should we nationalize our oil resources too?

It really is "Blotto world" liberals live in where selling control of our Uranium to Russian interests is no big deal, but holding a meeting where dirt on a political opponent is possible is the end of the world....

 

[ludin]

Link

He is a vast, moral wasteland.

hmm clinton accepted information from foreign operatives and you are ok with it so you should be ok with this.
is clinton a vast moral wasteland as well?

 

[j-mac]

Well, many of us are urging Pelosi to impeach. See, although the Trump stink is fairly bad, the repubs in Senate will just hold their nose and vote for the Prez. Pelosi is waiting for more shoes to drop, such that the stink will be so overpowering that it will send everyone in Congress gasping for air. Thats' when she will impeach. That's my take on it. But, many dems want her to get the ball rolling, soon.

Personally, I don't think a criminal president and the potential for harm to the country a criminal president can do is a laughing matter. But, "LOL" all you want, if you think it's cute.

"Cute?" That's not the choice of words I would use to describe anything liberals are doing to this country these days...

 

[dixon01767]

Trump said, that he would willingly commit a felony.

No he didnt. Your need to put your words into Trumps mouth only demonstrates the lameness of your arguement .

 

[Athanasius68]

You wrote:





Okay, it's a hypothetical you made up. (There is no nominee at this juncture).

Once there is a nominee, and you've got a shred of evidence that that reality is a possibility, sure, investigate.

But, I doubt that will ever be the case. Dems have had enough of Hillary and Wasserman Schulz and their shenanigans in the primary.

The next nominee will be clean on that front. Schulz is no longer in charge.

Repubs put Dems to shame when it comes to gerrymandering, voter suppression, caging purges, interstate crosscheck purges, etc.

So then what's the problem? What's the felony?

 

[Athanasius68]

Re: [W:775]Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

You forgot that it is you who tried to argue that it was the Russian government which gave anti-Trump information to the Obama administration. The FBI (including the FBI under the directors nominated by Trump and approved by the Senate) does not accept your narrative.

I said the Obama Admin received anti-Trump info from Russia. Which they did- via Steele.

 

[Athanasius68]

hmm clinton accepted information from foreign operatives and you are ok with it so you should be ok with this.
is clinton a vast moral wasteland as well?

Obama received it as well. Used it to launch investigation into Trump.

 

[ludin]

Obama received it as well. Used it to launch investigation into Trump.

their faux outrage is simply dismissed

 

[pamak]

So then what's the problem? What's the felony?

This is like someone watching his/hew spouse flirting with strangers and arguing that everything is okay because there is no crime involved. Your president is openly flirting and winking at adversaries and you are only interested in if this behavior violates the law.

 

[pamak]

Obama received it as well. Used it to launch investigation into Trump.

Again, Obama did not receive it from the Russian government. You just make things up to find an excuse for Trump...

 

[Common Sense 1]

Several. There's the secret non-admin meeting with the Russian intelligence agent in Trump Tower. Junior knew it was an intelligence agent. He solicited and received a meeting with that intelligence agent. Manafort laundering money and numerous illegal actions involving Russian intelligence agents. Various other campaign officials meeting with Russian intelligence agents and then lying to the FBI about it. Various other cabinet members meeting with Russian intelligence and then lying to the FBI about it.

Russian intelligence agents were an integral part of the Trump campaign.


But Hillary's campaign has nothing whatsoever to do with any foreign intelligence agents. You want to pretend an American company hiring a private British citizen is Hillary involved with "foreign agents".



It's a lie of false equivalence. Everyone can see it.

Stop lying.

So sad you have absolutely nothing but continue with the Russian collusion nonsense!
Gaslight away....... It's so damn funny!! You waited for the Muller report and...... 1,2,3, NOTHING!
45 is still the president and he will win reelection.

 

[j-mac]

Re: [W:775]Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

Obama did not publicly ask our allies to come with whatever dirty laundry about Trump's business in Scotland or Germany.
Stop making BS comparisons...

Publicly? No...Secretly? Well, that's another story....

Obama-Era Spying Is Now a Political Risk for Biden | RealClearPolitics

An answer to that question is needed if we are going to get back to any sort of civility between the parties, and ideologies...

I remember a report very early on in the Trump Presidency, where it outlined how Obama was getting reports from MI6 and others on Trump during the campaign...and as quickly as it appeared, it disappeared....Ever ask yourself why?

 

[dixon01767]

Accepting things of value (dirt on opponents ) from foreign governments. Trump said he would do it.

yes, it's a felony to do this. So says the FEC commissioner.

So then where is the charge against Don Jr who actually accepted info from the Russian lady who met with the founder of Fusion GPS the day before the meeting and the day after? Answer- it isnt a crime so there were no charges

 

[pamak]

Re: [W:775]Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

I said the Obama Admin received anti-Trump info from Russia. Which they did- via Steele.

And I said earlier that there is a difference between getting information from "foreign sources" and getting information from adversary governments who have motives to lie in order to help Trump." So, the answer to your hypothetical of how Trump should react if in 2020 the Russian government comes with a claim that it has dirty laundry for the next democratic candidate is very simple. He should not do anything! The FBI will decide without presidential interventions if there is anything worthy of investigation or if they should go after the Russian assets which were used to find such dirty laundry.

 

[dixon01767]

It must be the same one Trump is allegedly proposing to violate.

AND the one Don Jr actually did violate and yet no charges from Mueller.

 

[pamak]

Re: [W:775]Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

Publicly? No...Secretly? Well, that's another story....

Obama-Era Spying Is Now a Political Risk for Biden | RealClearPolitics

An answer to that question is needed if we are going to get back to any sort of civility between the parties, and ideologies...

I remember a report very early on in the Trump Presidency, where it outlined how Obama was getting reports from MI6 and others on Trump during the campaign...and as quickly as it appeared, it disappeared....Ever ask yourself why?

With the DOJ and the FBI being for a couple of years under the republican control, I am not sure why you think that your people are waiting for so long to answer your question. My bet is that this is just spreading rumors to make TRump's behavior look normal when he openly invites foreign (and even adversarial) powers to intervene. Comes testified under oath that during his first meeting with Trump after the election, he told the then president elect that he was NOT the target of investigation, and I doubt that Comey could lie and successfully hide such investigation for all these years. The idea that republican could discover the text messages with comments against Trump but missed a secret investigation against him does not sound convincing.

 

[Athanasius68]

This is like someone watching his/hew spouse flirting with strangers and arguing that everything is okay because there is no crime involved. Your president is openly flirting and winking at adversaries and you are only interested in if this behavior violates the law.

Yet again-- the Obama Admin used information from Russia to obtain a FISA warrant an American citizen AND in an intelligence review as to Russian intentions.
This is something that actually happened, as opposed to a theoretical comment about receiving information-- from Norway.

It is certainly wise to weigh the source of information (why didn't Obama do that?).
But the complaint here is that ANY such information from foreign sources is a problem and cannot be allowed is hypocracy.

 

[pamak]

Yet again-- the Obama Admin used information from Russia to obtain a FISA warrant an American citizen AND in an intelligence review as to Russian intentions.
This is something that actually happened, as opposed to a theoretical comment about receiving information-- from Norway.

It is certainly wise to weigh the source of information (why didn't Obama do that?).
But the complaint here is that ANY such information from foreign sources is a problem and cannot be allowed is hypocracy.

Yes again, you dismiss my comment that the Obama administration did not get any information from an adversarial government and you dismiss the fact that the FISA was approved by a judge and not Obama. As I said, one cannot equate learning something from a Russian citizen and learning something from a Russian operative working for the Russian government.

Also, you dismiss the point that Obama did not invite other countries to intervene. Trump did it then (with the Russian, if you are listening...) and does it now too.

 

[Athanasius68]

Again, Obama did not receive it from the Russian government. You just make things up to find an excuse for Trump...

Bah! They received it laundered through an American firm.

 

[Athanasius68]

Yes again, you dismiss my comment that the Obama administration did not get any information from an adversarial government and you dismiss the fact that the FISA was approved by a judge and not Obama. As I said, one cannot equate learning something from a Russian citizen and learning something from a Russian operative working for the Russian government.
Also, you dismiss the post that Obama did not invite other countries to intervene. Trump did it then (with the Russian, if you are listening...) and does it now too.

It's not clear why you are trusting Putin .