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[W;622]Please... Be honest. Do you really think a second impeachment is good for the country?

Care about what? Making the rich people richer? Accepting corruption at the highest level? Accepting bully rethorics? Accepting rasism at the highest level of goverment? Accepting a president that doesn't take responsibility for his actions or words and always blames someone else for ones shortcommings (example: Ohh the attemted coup was a failure, must have been Antifa...)Accepting a president that doesn't favor democracy? Is that the US you really want? (and stop calling it "America", America contains many countries. Northamerica contains 21 countries. You live in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_countries_by_population )
One, I agree with you. Two, for better or worse, “America” has come to stand for the US. Yes, it’s arrogant, as other countries lay claim to the hope that the name “America” suggests. Mexicans refer to us as norteamericanos, even tho they are North Americans as well. We don’t really have a name. That’s good or bad, depending on how you view it.
 
We have 15K national guard in D.C. for the inauguration, with more to come. The final force will be 3X the size of the forces in Iraq & Afghanistan, combined.

There's no place for an ideology requiring us to go through this. If impeachment can help show our resolve to stamp this stuff out, then do it.

Do you really think the majority of the 70 million plus Americans who voted for Donald Trump have anything to do with the smaller ideology which pre planned and then used a political rally as cover to assault the capitol?

My take is that democrats are just using this impeachment as an excuse to keep the heat off or themselves right now as the dems are a deeply divided party, did not win any clear mandate, are under tremendous pressure from the far left (which represented the reason for the most losses in the HoR BTW), and they no clearly defined agenda going forward other than forgiving student loans and opening the border for more to come flooding in.

Impeachment does nothing but take all the air out of the room. It plays to a "boogy man" fear mongering, who will be gone in a week anyway. So. then what? Then they have to lead, and what do they have to offer. Not having Donald Trump as their scapegoat.... what will be their rallying cry now?

This impeachment farce does not smell like a confident Democrat party. No worries, in 2 years we'll see what happens after they have to own the pandemic, own the economy, own unemployment, own the perilous time ahead of us.

We'll see....
 
So what? I haven't read any of them saying they saw Trump leading rioters into the Capital. Which ones have said that?
The evidence for that is his speech, tweets and experienced before the riots. Witnesses are the camera...
 
Trump doesn’t care about Latinos, blacks, refugees and immigrants. That’s a big chunk of America he dismisses. Maybe you missed his comments and tweets. That a significant minority voted for him was an example of what Lincoln said, “you can fool some of the people all of the time.” Some voted cause they are republicans, some cause they disliked Hillary, some cause he appealed to the lesser angels of their nature with his bigotry.
That's a sound argument against democracy.
 
We have 15K national guard in D.C. for the inauguration, with more to come. The final force will be 3X the size of the forces in Iraq & Afghanistan, combined.

There's no place for an ideology requiring us to go through this. If impeachment can help show our resolve to stamp this stuff out, then do it.
Impeachment is done. It has been accomplished. What did you learn?
 
The MSM, press and Big Tech will tell Republicans day and night continuously that it must be Mitt Romney with fake polls to declare he is unstoppable, while 17 Republicans to the right of him splinter the conservatives and Trump supporters. However, Romney would have little chance at the primary and would lose the general. Strong Trump supporters would ever vote for Romney. I would vote for Harris, AOC, Sanders - anyone - instead of Romney - and would not go 3rd party because that would cut my anti-Romney vote in half.

Why there would ever be such a thing as a trump supporter ever again is a complete mystery to me.
 
Yes this impeachment is good for the country.

Notice that Queen Qanon the new Republican member of the House has stated that she is going to file an Impeachment Resolution on Joe Biden the first day of the new congress.

Just as big corporate donor money can't follow INSURRECTION, it can't follow Qanon crazy either. Most people in this country know what is real and what is not which is why big money and big business is running from Donnie as fast as their feet will carry them.

This is where the DEM's really have to keep their heads. We are seeing the ripping apart of the GOP before our very eyes with McConnell and Liz Chaney trying to save it....the Trumphumpers like Jordan and Gosar and Gohmert trying to take it over or burn it down and spineless wimps like Keven McCarthy and flip flop Lindsey Graham with no idea which side to jump to from the chasm that is opening up under their feet:
- Don't panic DEM's. Don't become collateral damage to the destruction of the GOP
- Pelosi, make sure Capitol Police are cleared of whack jobs. You know who I mean Nancy
- Pelosi, make sure guns do not make it onto the floor of the House. If you have to rough Congresspeople up a bit to disarm them SO BE IT
- make sure to clean out DOJ, FBI, ATF, DHS and the military of Trump crazies or you will be in great physical danger
- Remember that while polishing off Donnie Boy the COVID wreckage he left in his wake must be dealt with
 
YES....IMPEACH AND CONVICT THE SOB!!!

Enough is enough.
 
So what? I haven't read any of them saying they saw Trump leading rioters into the Capital. Which ones have said that?
Is that what it would take for you to admit he stirred up an insurrection? Trump is too clever for that. He's been laying the groundwork for something like this since his first day in office. No, not specifically, but he is a man in his 70's who has been the sole boss of his own company for his entire life, and if nothing else, he is a very good salesman. He has always had a paranoid need for loyalty and NDA'S and he has always, always. always gotten his own way. He's a narcissist. He can't take criticism or rejection or ever admit mistakes. It's not possible for him. So everyone who disagreed with him or criticized him had to be turned into The Enemy so his followers wouldn't listen to the MSM's "lies." I know you don't want to believe that, but it's the truth.

He's conned you. If Kasich or Cruz or any other Repub had been chosen to run, we would NOT be here right now. People wouldn't be living in an alternate universe where everyone on the left is a communist, where Covid is no big deal and the Democrats stole the election. Those are Trump's doing. He did it to keep his power, but he still lost and when the courts wouldn't let him win anyway, he ramped up the angry rhetoric and outrageous lies until his supporters felt they were involved in some kind of holy war. A war worth overthrowing the government for.
 
I would personally be very suprised if the congress doesn't support the impeachment(with exactly one vote)and that they will do so rather fast. As I said before, it is in the best interest of the Republican party to do so. Trump will not spend one dollar of his own money to keep rallying his followers, especially if his chances of becoming lifelong dictator and ruler over the state budget(to relocate into his family trust and to pay loyalty with) is close to none. It would be a different thing for him if he can bill the state for trips and hotelcosts at his resorts and get the secutity needs paid for. The rest and a little extra he can rally his supporters for. He would tear the republican party apart.

What makes me a little iffy and unsure is that no Swedish press analyst or analysis has gone forward with that thesis, so it is a good chance I am wrong...
 
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Yes. Justice must seen to be done. If you don't impeach a President for something as severe as this, then you may as well just get rid of the impeachment process and allow Presidents to do what they want.

Trump supporters threatening more violence is not a justifiable excuse not to impeach Trump.
The unity argument Republicans are using to oppose impeachment is an excuse to avoid being punished. "Yeah, Trump did something wrong but don't punish him because it might upset Trump supporters" is the lamest and most cowardly excuse I can think of.
 
There is no time to prepare for and conduct a trial. The deadline is Jan. 20th (Next Tuesday) at noon.
No it isn't. The trial will take place after his term is over. And yes, they can
 
That's a sound argument against democracy.
I don't think you answered me earlier, did you? What alternative do you have for electing our leaders?
 
Trump is one of five presidents rated as worst since 1776. by historians and political scientists.

After his impeachment on Wednesday, he may ranked the worst since 1776.

He is a disgrace !!!!
 
Do you really think the majority of the 70 million plus Americans who voted for Donald Trump have anything to do with the smaller ideology which pre planned and then used a political rally as cover to assault the capitol?

😂

Doesn't really matter at this point. Yall played yourselves. And on top of that you all gave everyone watching at home a perfect example of what white privilege is. Those same folks storming the capital waving confederate and blue lives matter flags were the same people out here trying to tell us that kneeling during the anthem was disrespectful and anti-american and here are the Trumpers to attack democracy itself cause yall lost. I've never seen anything like this. You have white people out here finally realizing what 90% of black voters have known all along, that the republican party and the white wing are one and the same. Good job guys. 😂
 
How are you going to stop the idealogue known as Trumpism?
An Ideologue is a person but, if you meant the "Trumpism Ideology", you stop that by recognizing his lies as ... LIES. This one evil SOB has the whole world living a lie, he's either convinced a large amount of people to believe in his lies or has everyone else living in his la la land because so many of the first goup believe his bullshit. OUR Capitol was stormed and sacked last week by people that believed the non-sense that OUR election was being stolen and (this is what's really insane) the only way to save OUR Country was to destroy it. 🙄 Those people included Capitol Police and office workers AND, apparently, some Congressmen that gave the ring-leaders tours of the Capitol so they would know where to go.

Benidict Donald IS pathologically, narcissistically insane, but he has the whole world living a reality he created, we have to get off the bus and start living in truth. That's how you stop Trumpism; trumpism is a lie, top to bottom, side to side, inside and out. We begin by impeaching the SOB (check), convicting him (hopefully) and making it impossible for him to ever run for any office again. Then we make it unprofitable for guys like Hamity and Lush to perpetuate his lies, and make it profitable to call those lies what they are, LIES. Only then can we talk his supporters off the ledge and rehabilitate them into a real ... reality.
 
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