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[W;622]Please... Be honest. Do you really think a second impeachment is good for the country?

Did you feel that way when the leftwing mob tried to break into the White House, sending the Trump family down to the bunker and injuring 14 secret service officers? Did you feel that way when the rioting mobs killed 25 during the daily summer riots?
14? A Trumper in another thread said 66. Hmm anyway it’s nothing but a bunch of bullshit. The White House was never breached and the secret service themselves said no one inside was ever in danger. I think those agents did their duty and I’m glad they weren’t bashed in the head with a fire extinguisher or beaten while face down with an American flag.
 
He didn't lose. He won by a large margin.
Maybe in your reality. I do like alternative realities though, in mine he's cell mates with Bernie Madoff and they swap stories of their biggest con jobs.
 
14? A Trumper in another thread said 66. Hmm anyway it’s nothing but a bunch of bullshit. The White House was never breached and the secret service themselves said no one inside was ever in danger. I think those agents did their duty and I’m glad they weren’t bashed in the head with a fire extinguisher or beaten while face down with an American flag.
The number from a several-week period was 60s
From the one day, it was 14.
25 people were killed in the leftwing riots during the summer. You fine with that?
 
Well, do you?

I don't think a violent and deadly insurrection attempt was good for the country. Also, telling the country that the election had been stolen for two months was pretty bad for the country.
 
Well, do you?
Yes. He should not be allowed to run again. He would not resign, his VP would not remove him. He's a power mad authoritarian and I'm beginning to wonder if he's crazy, too. At any rate, no more.
 
Well, do you?
Yes, it is good for the country because he must be held accountable for that act of supporting sedition. This is just the start because those senators who supported him (Cruz, Hawley, Cotton, and others) will be the next targets for either censure or impeachment. Once Trump leaves off his criminal prosecution will follow and I expect that more than a few sitting republicans will be caught up in that net. Before the country can start to heal we must put an end to the people who supported them and then we put in place constitutional amendments to prevent people like him from being elected and to prevent members of congress from condoning behavior such as his.

The GOP has been chasing Hillary accusing her of everything from war crimes to faking the moon landings for the past 30 years since Whitewater and the proposal of universal healthcare and they have yet to prove that she has an unpaid parking ticket so we are just getting started.
 
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It’s not a good look and had the Democratic Party not impeached him over made up charges the first time this wouldn’t like a cheap political stunt. The mistake was the first impeachment without merit not this one that actually has some legitimacy to it
I see the first impeachment as a warning shot that too many people didn't hear. I think he should have been removed then. His behavior since then has followed the same unethical arc to lie, cheat, harrass and bully in order to win the election.
 
Well, do you?
Yes, absolutely. Trump probably won't be the last authoritarian wannabe to win the white house. A strong precedent must be set that inciting an insurrection against the US government will not be tolerated. Since you're a partisan, imagine the next president to refuse to give up power is a democrat. Having a BIPARTISAN precedent against such behavior will make our democracy safer.
 
those senators who supported him (Cruz, Hawley, Cotton, and others) will be the next targets for either censure or impeachment. Once Trump leaves off his criminal prosecution will follow and I expect that more than a few sitting republicans will be caught up in that net. Before the country can start to heal we must put an end to the people who supported them
I think we should slow down on that. I think you're right in that Cruz contributed to a totally unjustified theory that had just been rejected by the court that the VP could choose his own electors. It apparently gave some of the rioters (and the President) false hope that Trump could be made President that day.

But Cruz has already lost significant campaign contributions for his clever feat, he might as well kiss running in 2024 goodbye, and I think that's enough. He did slimy stuff, but let the people of Texas handle it. If they want a slimeball to represent them, that's their choice.

We have to be very, very careful not to become the authoritarians ourselves. This is Trump's doing. We know who rode his coattails, which they did for votes, and I'm sure it won't be forgotten. But to remove them from congress or even censure and strip them of committee positions is overreaction, it seems to me.
 
Did you feel that way when the leftwing mob tried to break into the White House, sending the Trump family down to the bunker and injuring 14 secret service officers? Did you feel that way when the rioting mobs killed 25 during the daily summer riots?
Trump said he didn’t go to the bunker. Who should I believe, you of Trump?
 
Trump is the best argument against democracy America has seen in a generation.
LOL If I'm reading you correctly, the Founding Fathers are all elbow bumping each other and saying 'Toldja so!" In the Federalist Papers I remember reading how the EC would save us uneducated unwashed masses from being 'overexcited' and conned by a real lout. Keep some ability for Dad to step in and take the car keys away, is what they wanted.
 
LOL If I'm reading you correctly, the Founding Fathers are all elbow bumping each other and saying 'Toldja so!" In the Federalist Papers I remember reading how the EC would save us uneducated unwashed masses from being 'overexcited' and conned by a real lout. Keep some ability for Dad to step in and take the car keys away, is what they wanted.
The Founding Fathers called it an experiment. Well, the experiment is producing Presidents who get impeached twice in a single term. I don't see how that could possibly reflect well on voters.
 
The number from a several-week period was 60s
From the one day, it was 14.
25 people were killed in the leftwing riots during the summer. You fine with that?
Last summer was created by rogue reich-wing cops murdering defenseless blacks.
 
  1. For the democrats, it really makes no difference to their popularity or to their hold on their voter base. Maybe that they will face a calmer first period in power where Donald doesn't incite unrest and new riots but otherwise I do not know why they care. It will disturb the initial presidency for Biden and will delay work he needs to get done. Maybe they just wants to show history that they took al actions they could.
  2. For the republicans it really is a must, but I feel nausea in the way they hide behind the Democrats and wants them to do their dirtywork for them. So I am conflicted on their behalf. But off course a strong Republican party beside a strong Democrat party is better for your country. . . and that is really the issue here.
  3. On a personal level I am a little bit of a "right and proper" (hence my nausea above) character and I do not like to whatch how deceivers like Donald benefits from their behaviors and get millions and millions from taxpayers money for life, but that is off course to go outside the perspectives.
 
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The Founding Fathers called it an experiment. Well, the experiment is producing Presidents who get impeached twice in a single term. I don't see how that could possibly reflect well on voters.
President, not Presidents. Helsinki Trump is responsible for all his treasonous behavior.

Trump’s troops would have called for tan suit Obama’s head at least a hundred times had he done what Trump has.
 
The Founding Fathers called it an experiment. Well, the experiment is producing Presidents who get impeached twice in a single term. I don't see how that could possibly reflect well on voters.
'Presidents?' Plural?
I agree the voters really screwed up this time, but what better alternative do you have in mind?
 
It is good if the goal is to make President Trump a reverted martyr who gave it all. They have financially destroyed the Trump family financially and will continue to pursue greater martyrdom for him.
 
Well, do you?
It's about not letting the jackass run again. If he figures he can line up a 2024 campaign he'll make it his mission to anger as many people as possible as often as possible for the next four years and America will be putting out fires nearly constantly. That's how he'd prepare the groundwork- divide and anger. He might do it anyway no matter how this plays but at least he'd be more easily ignored if he's barred from political position. He'd be demoted to just another loudmouth talking head, except less articulate.
 
How are you going to stop the idealogue known as Trumpism?

I believe without his personal poisonous rhetoric, it won't be violent. I believe the R's can find a way to push his policies peacefully with a sane candidate. That won't bother me, it's what our system is supposed to be like.
 
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