[W:5949][W:1030]***Official January 6 Public Hearings Thread***

[soap box]

You are projecting with assertions.

It makes no sense for the Dems or anyone else to stop the certification of the Electoral College votes. What would the Dems have gained by interrupting the ratification of his electoral victory?

(Keeping in mind that no state legislature had agreed to rescind their Electoral College slate, because they acknowledged no fraud )

 

[IQ57]

It makes no sense for the Dems or anyone else to stop the certification of the Electoral College votes. What would the Dems have gained by interrupting the ratification of his electoral victory?

(Keeping in mind that no state legislature had agreed to rescind their Electoral College slate, because they acknowledged no fraud )

Guess what, you did it again.

Projected with assertions.

Who proved the fraud wrong? No courts?
Hmmmm, seems odd. Not one?

Fear of death or retaliation? Intimidation?

Would be a good libel suit.

Keep up the games, while they last.

Did I mention we are in this together?

Why sink my/our battleship?

 

[soap box]

Guess what, you did it again.

Projected with assertions.

Who proved the fraud wrong? No courts?
Hmmmm, seems odd. Not one?

Fear of death or retaliation? Intimidation?

Would be a good libel suit.

Keep up the games, while they last.

Did I mention we are in this together?

Why sink my/our battleship?

There is the moon there is the sun
Round which we circle every year
And there are all the stars we see on starry nights when skies are clear,
and there are all the stars that lie beyond the reach of human eye,
If every bud on every tree,
all fireflies and birds and bees
that ever were upon the Earth were counted up,
the number of stars would still be greater , they say, than all of these.

So , is the world a lens or a mirror?

A hole is to dig.

 

[beefheart]

Democratic mob. I agree with you.

Violent mob, stop spamming and gaslighting.

 

[IQ57]

There is the moon there is the sun
Round which we circle every year
And there are all the stars we see on starry nights when skies are clear,
If every bud on every tree,
all fireflies and birds and bees
that ever were upon the Earth were counted up,
the number of stars would still be greater , they say, than all of these.

So , is the world a lens or a mirror?

A hole is to dig.

It’s both everything and anything. You are totally doing great!

 

[IQ57]

Violent mob, stop spamming and gaslighting.

Exactly what you just did.

Were they all on the same team?

Hidden agendas?

The list goes on forever.

Gaslighting? Stomping? Really?

 

[soap box]

It’s both everything and anything. You are totally doing great!

A door is to open. And a door is to shut.
All is as it should be.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Factual wrong comment and idiotic to boot.

Sure, the DOJ is known for bringing conspiracy charges against the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys...... without evidence.

I guess you are not looking at the evidence any longer. That took what, 24hrs?

Again, you are totally ignorant of the facts of the insurrection, lots of weapons, including guns, were brought.

**** yes

What is you definition of "lots"? I haven't seen any evidence of "lots". Just like I didn't see any evidence of lots of officers in place to defend the Capital building. In fact very few. This is strange because old Liz Cheney said they had evidence of a violent act to occur days in advance. Yet nobody is asking why the Capital wasn't better protected. Could it be that they wanted this to happen? These types of actions are used to take away peoples freedoms. You know, for their own good.

 

[HangLow]

I wonder if those are two who requested pardons from Trump.

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[jaypatriot]

we are looking at it now because of that attempt to prevent the House from performing its Constitutionally mandated duty to approve the votes required to install the duly elected president
the rightful transfer of presidential authority to the lawfully elected president was attempted to be thwarted by the insurrectionists

and those of your ilk acknowledge that is not found consequential to you

So the end result is to nail Trump as the instigator so that he doesn't run again.
It's all political and everyone knows it.
If the Dems don't nail Trump now then they will fear him for more than two years before 2024.
This 1/6 theater is all because they are afraid of Trump and need to distract the public from the shitty job the Biden Administration is currently doing.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Valid link?

You will know a link is valid when all of the information contained in it is repeatedly proven, extremely obvious, totally unbiased facts. I know you will not get any of those things from anyone who worships Trump the Terrorist.

 

[justabubba]

So the end result is to nail Trump as the instigator so that he doesn't run again.
It's all political and everyone knows it.
If the Dems don't nail Trump now then they will fear him for more than two years before 2024.
This 1/6 theater is all because they are afraid of Trump and need to distract the public from the shitty job the Biden Administration is currently doing.

why do you rule out that the inquiry is truly about exposing an insurrection planned and executed at the highest levels?

 

[jaypatriot]

You really don't grasp the issue at all, do you? Which is why it is you that lacks perspective. A coup is not measured by the number of dead, it is measured by the how close the Constitution came to collapsing. Bin Laden's attack on America killed people and got America to panic, but it generally came together as a nation in response. There was never a threat to American liberty. Undermining the faith of our people in the validity of our elections was a far graver danger.

Remember, in American history we have been willing to trade lives to protect our constitutional republic. The threats we face are not lose of life, but loss of liberty. By the measure, Trump was a much, much graver threat to America than Bin Laden ever was. Most informed people believe if Trump gets anywhere near the presidency, our constitution republic is lost. The man has no respect for the rule of law, no understanding of American traditions and really, no love for this country whatsoever. He is a fraud. He has defrauded millions, which will actually likely be the charge, should the DoJ have the balls to charge him.

You make the statement that our democracy is strong and safe. You want to debate subject, let's do it! I am challenging you to support the bolded statement: prove it! Show us sober and informed people that say that is true, as I can show you a dozen that say it is not. Especially given what I am saying is the prevailing wisdom:

Here is one such article that says your perspective is wrong: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/02/is-american-democracy-in-peril/

The Constitution was never close to collapsing. The nation's business was concluded on the same day as the riot. You need to make the 1/6 riot a big deal because you know the Progressive cause is failing. The Dems have nothing else but 1/6 and the fight to get Trump indicted for someone.
As a professed Progressive, you see your WOKE ideology collapsing all around you so you and your tribe are desperate for a victory. And the 1/6 one-side inquisition is the Dems ticket to softening the blow this coming November.


I don't need to prove our democracy is safe. I don't need to prove a positive but you need to convince me of a negative.
BTW, in case you haven't noticed, I am not in favor of Trump running again. I want to see him disappear from the political stage. I guess you can't handle someone who thinks the 1/6 kangaroo court is not necessary and at the same time thinks Trump is guilty of inciting a riot.

Let me repeat myself:

For the record: The election was not stolen from Trump.
Never voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020.
Hope he never runs again. I will, once again, not vote for him because he is not worthy of my vote.

 

[jaypatriot]

why do you rule out that the inquiry is truly about exposing an insurrection planned and executed at the highest levels?

Because I don't believe it - right now.
I'm sure you will stick around and we will debate the "facts" that are laid out for people to consider.
If there is that smoking gun that implicates Trump in a conspiracy "at the highest levels" to overthrow the election, then I will accept Trump can be criminally indicted by the DOJ.

 

[justabubba]

Because I don't believe it - right now.
I'm sure you will stick around and we will debate the "facts" that are laid out for people to consider.
If there is that smoking gun that implicates Trump in a conspiracy "at the highest levels" to overthrow the election, then I will accept Trump can be criminally indicted by the DOJ.

then stay tuned ... which means you will need to watch something other than faux news

 

[jaypatriot]

If it really were an insider conspiracy, which it really looks like, then it'd be irresponsible and devastating to let that go unpunished.

It is important to you to convict Trump now for engaging in a conspiracy before all the facts are in.?
If you already know he's guilty of a conspiracy to overthrow the election then these 15 months building up to this big show has been a waste of time.

 

[jaypatriot]

then stay tuned ... which means you will need to watch something other than faux news

Just one kabuki theater kangaroo court session at a time, bubba.

 

[justabubba]

Just one kabuki theater kangaroo court session at a time, bubba.

just keep your eyes and your mind open

 

[jaypatriot]

just keep your eyes and your mind open

I can wait. You seem to be the one ready to hang Trump before all of the committee's revelations are in.
Does that stem from your eternal hatred of Trump?

 

[HangLow]

What is you definition of "lots"? I haven't seen any evidence of "lots". Just like I didn't see any evidence of lots of officers in place to defend the Capital building. In fact very few. This is strange because old Liz Cheney said they had evidence of a violent act to occur days in advance. Yet nobody is asking why the Capital wasn't better protected. Could it be that they wanted this to happen? These types of actions are used to take away peoples freedoms. You know, for their own good.

Cut the bullshit...
Blamed everyone else except Trump,
And still doing it.
-peace

Cultist Gotta Cult...

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[HangLow]

and Cult, and Cult, and Cult...

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[W_Heisenberg]

Who proved the fraud wrong? No courts?
Hmmmm, seems odd. Not one?

That’s not how our legal system works.

It’s not the job of the legal system to placate Trump supporters by chasing down every batshit, evidence-free conspiracy theory.

The MSM and false flag go getters are the ones who propagated the attack. It’s called a bait and switch. Force violence through incitement and false projection and lies by the Democratic backed media run by big tech. The puppet masters love their puppets. They all want you to be one. Please wake up, please?

And honestly ask yourself, do you think I am a puppet? Why would I be able to speak such volumes as I do. I really do love this country, I am in it, all chips.

Wtf are you talking about? Nothing you’re writing here makes any sense.

 

[Binary_Digit]

It is important to you to convict Trump now for engaging in a conspiracy before all the facts are in.?
If you already know he's guilty of a conspiracy to overthrow the election then these 15 months building up to this big show has been a waste of time.

I agree, anyone who paid attention could plainly see without this commission that Trump spent months telling lies about rigged elections and stolen countries, before spending two hours telling an angry crowd that their country had just been stolen and that they need to show strength and fight like hell to take it back, then finally sending them outside of the permitted Ellipse area to a building that just happened to be full of his political opponents who were in the process of stealing their country from them.

Now the hearing has confirmed that Trump was warned multiple times that violent extremist groups were planning to attend the rally with the specific intent of committing violence. So Trump sent a known-violent crowd down Pennsylvania Avenue to have his political opponents murdered.

 

[Binary_Digit]

What is you definition of "lots"? I haven't seen any evidence of "lots". Just like I didn't see any evidence of lots of officers in place to defend the Capital building. In fact very few. This is strange because old Liz Cheney said they had evidence of a violent act to occur days in advance. Yet nobody is asking why the Capital wasn't better protected. Could it be that they wanted this to happen? These types of actions are used to take away peoples freedoms. You know, for their own good.

The rallies didn't have permits to be anywhere other than the Ellipse. Nobody other than Trump could have known they would end up at the Capitol building. "Why wasn't the Capitol better protected" is a pointless question to ask.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

So the end result is to nail Trump as the instigator so that he doesn't run again.
It's all political and everyone knows it.

I haven’t yet seen evidence of some sort of premeditated coup plot on Trump’s part. It’s more like he was trying to take advantage of a situation.

He did instigate it though. For two months prior he made false accusations of election fraud in order to overturn an election he lost. His followers believed. Even if this is not illegal it’s still something for which he should not be allowed to hold office again. It represents an attack on our democracy. And it doesn’t matter if there is no law on the books that outlines Trump’s specific action as being bad, it’s still bad.