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[W:5949][W:1030]***Official January 6 Public Hearings Thread***

W_Heisenberg said:
That's a great point. So why are so many Republicans who've been called testify been trying so hard to avoid testifying?
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Part of it was the legal issue of executive privilege.
That was resolved.
Thge other part is the partisan nature of the committee.
Oh well.
 
trouble13 said:
Trump did not try to persuade anyone to do anything illegal.
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Pressuring Mike Pence to go beyond his Constitutional authority by refusing to certify the election results was indeed a persuasion to do something illegal.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
I don't expect you to take my word for it!

Every other week another dipshit Oathkeeper pleads guilty.

You should pay attention to what they're saying.
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And we should pay attention to what the DOJ is saying in these indictments.
 
tres borrachos said:
A man who sent a memo in January warning that the pro-Trump crowds would possibly attack ( he apparently knew what shit they were) and saying they needed a better system to identify terrorist (which is what those people are). None of that has anything to do with Trump and his enablers' actions that day.
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Should anyone who voted for Trump be rounded up and put into a camp as an enemy of the Reich?
 
IQ57 said:
Never would have happened.

Projection.

Red herring.

What else you got for debate?
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You're right, blm/antifa never would've stormed the capitol building and Trump never would've said they're 'very special'. Thanks for confirming my point.
 
upsideguy said:
Its not a trial. It is presenting the case of their findings to the public. It seems that some that are being implicated in this chose not to have their side heard. Moreover, the RINOs chose to not to participate in this in a meaningful way. That is on them. They remain free to do so, but they have a lot of 'splainin' to do, don't you think?
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Sadly, this kabuki theater is not a fair fight.
The marriage between the Desperate Democrats and the Liberal mass media is still very strong. Given the venue the Dems have chosen, the GOP and Trump are all on the hot seat and nothing can change that.
The genius behind the Pelosi Inquisition is that they have all of the ammunition on their side and the Republicans do not.
Again, my goal in this is to see Trump discredited and his blind followers slapped into awakening to what the public is really thinking about 1/6.
It is a process I would like to see well on its way by November 2022.
 
Athanasius68 said:
The committee would have greater credibility if it wasn't so partisan.
And that failure belongs to the Democrats.
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Patently false, as has been shown to you multiple times. The failure belongs to the Republicans who couldn't be bothered with the simple task of not putting investigation subjects on the committee. That fact doesn't go away by simply ignoring it, no matter how much you want it to go away.
 
Binary_Digit said:
You're not following along very carefully are you? What the Republicans walked away from would have been impartial. The Republicans walked away from that and ensured the Dems had to do it alone. That's on the Republicans, not the Democrats. Your feigned victimhood trying to blame the Dems for a lack of impartiality is devoid of context and reality. Pathetic.
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And you are still incorrect.

The GOP did't want an independent commission. They wanted Congress, you know the democratically elected and accountable people, to run this.
That is what was agreed. A select committee was set up-- and the Democrats promptly kicked out the the members the GOP chose.
It was kind of unprecedented.
So now the policitcally accounted elected Democrats are running a partisan committee with not much credibility. Its unfortunate they chose to do that.
 
Binary_Digit said:
Pressuring Mike Pence to go beyond his Constitutional authority by refusing to certify the election results was indeed a persuasion to do something illegal.
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At the very least SHOULD BE illegal
 
IQ57 said:
Just like stealing the election.

Even if you say you didn’t steal it, but actually did, then you actually committed that crime.

Projecting aliens is a nice straw man.
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What we learned from the 2020 election is that you can make unconstitutional changes to the voting laws, put tons of boxes near only your party's voters, and run people to stuff them over an over again, and the courts and the law will not even look at it twice.

The Republicans were completely unprepared for these tactics, legal or not. I doubt they will let that happen again. It is no wonder that Democrats fight against any type of security in our elections, it torpedoes there path to victory.
 
Binary_Digit said:
Pressuring Mike Pence to go beyond his Constitutional authority by refusing to certify the election results was indeed a persuasion to do something illegal.
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Trump's name has not been appearing in any of the indictments the DOJ has been securing on others.

Why is that? How come DOJ does't seem as quick to blame Trump as the Democrats on the committee are?
 
Binary_Digit said:
Pressuring Mike Pence to go beyond his Constitutional authority by refusing to certify the election results was indeed a persuasion to do something illegal.
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Good thing neither Trump nor anyone else did that then.

Remember, Al Gore Jr. attempted to do what Trump suggested Pence do back in 2000, and the fascist party was all for it - the courts not so much.

In that case the court cited a conflict of interest - Pence was not a candidate in 2020 - so it was not the same - although on the Trump ticket, so the argument could be made.

Either way, nothing illegal or unconstitutional, despite the lies and demagoguery of the fascists.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Should anyone who voted for Trump be rounded up and put into a camp as an enemy of the Reich?
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Those who voted for Trump in 2016 were smart enough to know they wanted no part of Clinton in the White House - again.
Those who voted for Trump in 2020 knew Biden's mental condition and they knew they would be getting Obama 2.0 in the White House.
Moreover, those voting for Trump knew how well off the country was from 2017 right up until the beginning of 2020. We won't get that domestic condition back for a long time.
 
TomFitz said:
I don’t know if he will actually run.

I think he’s play “will he, or won’t he” for as long as he can keep it up. Diddling the base is the best way to keep his face on the TV screen, which is what he lives for.
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And the best way to milk more cash from them.
 
Athanasius68 said:
And you are still incorrect.

The GOP did't want an independent commission. They wanted Congress, you know the democratically elected and accountable people, to run this.
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It's a matter of public record that the GOP initially agreed to a bipartisan commission consisting of 5 Democrats and 5 Republicans. How is that different from an "independent commission"? What definitions are you using to disagree with me based on some distinction between the words "bipartisan", "impartial", and "independent"? They all seem like the same thing to me, at least in this context.

Athanasius68 said:
That is what was agreed. A select committee was set up-- and the Democrats promptly kicked out the the members the GOP chose.
It was kind of unprecedented.
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Again you conveniently ignore the reason why the Democrats blocked two (not all 5) of the Republican nominees. Do you know what that reason was? Hint: It's been explained about a dozen times already in this thread.
 
IQ57 said:
I do have evidence.

What court do I go to?
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Take it to your lawyer. Your lawyer will know what court to take it to.

Telling people on line about it will do nothing.

So go for it. Take your evidence to a lawyer.
 
Mustachio said:
Yeah i have this crazy conspiracy theory that trump was going to let the proud boys kill Pence because they were chanting "hang mike pence," stormed the capital, went directly toward pence in an underground garage that is not on maps, the groups were given tours by trump-associated congressmen, and ITS IN THE EASTMAN MEMOS.

Crazy. And you're going with "nu-uh, lmao"

History will judge how compelling the "nu-uh lmao" argument is
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Dude, they were obviously going to give Pence a handshake and a pat on the back for being such a loyal minion to Dear Leader.
 
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