[W: 542] Non gun owners have smaller members according to this study?

[Metric Mouse]

Inverse, like watch or truck size...AKA over-compensation.

Yes, all data does seem to suggest that non gun owners are over compensating.

 

[Metric Mouse]

It showed no such thing.

Of course it did -
"We find that men who are more dissatisfied with the size of their penises are less likely to personally own guns across outcomes..."

Did you not read the study?

 

[Metric Mouse]

The difference is the AR-15 is just a semi-automatic. The military version of it is the M16.

Ok...

How would the change in definition affect the results? Do you postulate that owners of such rifles are more dissatisfied with their size?

 

[soylentgreen]

Of course it did -
"We find that men who are more dissatisfied with the size of their penises are less likely to personally own guns across outcomes..."

Did you not read the study?

Yes, But unlike you I also read the part that said
"Although there is no direct empirical evidence linking penis size with personal gun ownership," That statistically it would seem that men with small penis are less likely to have a gun but there is no evidence to link the two together. There are other more likely reasons that give a correlation.

In other words your statement is called an association.

 

[Metric Mouse]

In other words your statement is called an association.

Yep. Exactly right. Gun ownership is associated with larger penis size, according to this study. That's all anyone has said.

Thank you for confirming.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Or on the other hand it does incentivise criminals to seek bigger guns.

Bigger guns are less effective in short quarters. A sawed off shotgun is the probably best home defense.

 

[Lord of Planar]

By arming the citizens, you De Facto arm the criminals.

I hate to ruin your preconceived notions, but guns are already available, and you will never round up enough off the streets to matter.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Nope, prove it.

It is common sense and statistics. Shown time and again in areas that people are encouraged to keep a gun in their homes. You need to separate the type of crime when you look at the statistics, because less people carry a weapon outside their home.

 

[soylentgreen]

Bigger guns are less effective in short quarters. A sawed off shotgun is the probably best home defense.

I am really hoping this is not some penis analogy.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Of course it did -
"We find that men who are more dissatisfied with the size of their penises are less likely to personally own guns across outcomes..."

Did you not read the study?

Why do you read such silly studies? Are you concerned about yours

 

[Lord of Planar]

Ok...

How would the change in definition affect the results? Do you postulate that owners of such rifles are more dissatisfied with their size?

You realty should learn the intricacies of a topic you debate. Both the other weapons mentioned will go full automatic.

The AR15 does not. The M16 does.

The only similarities the AR15 has to the military weapons, is it looks cool like they do.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Why do you read such silly studies? Are you concerned about yours

Of course not!

Why do you think this study is silly?

It's pretty well known that gun ownership is related to penis size - this study supports that.

 

[CLAX1911]

I am really hoping this is not some penis analogy.

Do you just like penis or something I mean I do but I don't talk about it this much. Go get some it's okay.

 

[Metric Mouse]

You realty should learn the intricacies of a topic you debate. Both the other weapons mentioned will go full automatic.

The AR15 does not. The M16 does.

The only similarities the AR15 has to the military weapons, is it looks cool like they do.

The issue you refuse to address is, once again: how would this definition change the results?

And then you have already claimed every ak-47 and SCAR has automatic fire, which is clearly untrue, but that's not as important as the first point.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I am really hoping this is not some penis analogy.

It is your analogy if so.

I mention the sawed off shotgun for the home, because the shot will not penetrate the walls of the home, and chance killing an innocent person. Plus, it is hard to miss your assailant.

Sawed off, so you have a short barrel to maneuver in close quarters.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Of course not!

Why do you think this study is silly?

It's pretty well known that gun ownership is related to penis size - this study supports that.

Sorry. I do not believe you.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Sorry. I do not believe you.

Don't believe me.

Peer review the study and point out flaws in their methodology?

Like... that's how this works.

 

[Lord of Planar]

The issue you refuse to address is, once again: how would this definition change the results?

And then you have already claimed every ak-47 and SCAR has automatic fire, which is clearly untrue, but that's not as important as the first point.

Both the AK-47 and SCAR are classed as an assault rifle. This means they do have full automatic fire. The A15 is not an assault rifle. The M16 is.

Stop trying to school me from your inadequate knowledge and indoctrination. If there are look-alike versions of the AK-47 and SCAR, they are called something else.

 

[soylentgreen]

Yep. Exactly right. Gun ownership is associated with larger penis size, according to this study. That's all anyone has said.

Thank you for confirming.

Sigh!
Association and correlation have specific meanings in statistics.
Association is a very general relationship: one variable provides information about another. Correlation is more specific: two variables are correlated when they display an increasing or decreasing trend.
Two variables may be associated without a causal relationship. For example, there is a statistical association between the number of people who drowned by falling into a pool and the number of films Nicolas Cage appeared in in a given year. However, there is obviously no causal relationship.

That is what the link means when it says that it is an association only.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Don't believe me.

Peer review the study and point out flaws in their methodology?

Like... that's how this works.

I will not waste my time on penis studies. Your envy is not mine.

 

[Metric Mouse]

I will not waste my time on penis studies. Your envy is not mine.

I happen to own a gun.

So no envy here. It's non gun owners with the envy.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I happen to own a gun.

So no envy here. It's non gun owners with the envy.

Is it your claim than men you are dissatisfied with the size of their tool are more likely to own a gun?

 

[soylentgreen]

It is your analogy if so.

I mention the sawed off shotgun for the home, because the shot will not penetrate the walls of the home, and chance killing an innocent person. Plus, it is hard to miss your assailant.

Sawed off, so you have a short barrel to maneuver in close quarters.

Apart from making my point that both sides will always bring the discussion back to guns when guns are not really what need to be discussed in discussions about the problems with guns. And the problem with this one is the cheap rambo fantasy. Not enough weapons, you need to mention knives and tripwires and stuff. The pro gun crowd only bring up the "how" in self defense because they have rehearsed in their mind until they are confident about their fantasy break in. Where as trying to explain the "why" of it all , not so easy , so better to avoid.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Sigh!
Association and correlation have specific meanings in statistics.
Association is a very general relationship: one variable provides information about another. Correlation is more specific: two variables are correlated when they display an increasing or decreasing trend.
Two variables may be associated without a causal relationship. For example, there is a statistical association between the number of people who drowned by falling into a pool and the number of films Nicolas Cage appeared in in a given year. However, there is obviously no causal relationship.

That is what the link means when it says that it is an association only.

Yes, the relationship is not linear. It's merely a statically meaningful predictor. Association versus correlation is the linearity of the relationship, statically speaking.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Is it your claim than men you are dissatisfied with the size of their tool are more likely to own a gun?

No.

I made no claim. I merely pointed to a scientific study that pointed out that men who are satisfied are more likely to own guns, and men that are not are less likely.