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[W:43] Recall New York governor Cuomo?

Should Andrew Cuomo get recalled for his pathetic covid response and his lies about the death count?

  • I am from New York state, and hell yeah, recall his lying behind

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • no, he should not be recalled

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cuomo? Isn't that the guy from CNN? Who cares about a television talking head.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    15
It is attitudes like this, that one must rally around the flag and support the leader because the other side is pure evil and is coming to devour our children and kill grandma, that allow men like Donald Trump and Andrew Cuomo hold onto power and get away with murder,
One mustn't fall for every bait.
 
The poll shouldn't just be for NY State voters.

Especially when the Democrat machine had him on national television trying to influence the national politics of Covid for weeks on end.

He was propped up as the Covid savior while the media was ridiculing anything not in line with Cuomo's policy's.
As the media was propping 'up as the Covid savior', complete with an Emmy award, a book deal of how well he had done, etc. they already knew that this was going to come out.
But it was election season, you know?

Yes, the so called 'news' media is really little more than political propaganda, straight from Orwell's 1984.
 
It is a big story.

What you have to ask yourself since it was known since March, why is it a big story now?
The only answer is that the election is over. That the so called 'news' media (political propaganda in actuality) has awakened from their Republican bashing and Democrat caressing to now report on all the ill deeds of Democrats, getting ahead of the re-reporting / detailed reporting of this story.
Nothing is going to be done. Biden has already given him a big sloppy kiss and assured him everything will be swept under the rug. This the problem when the fox is watching the henhouse.
 
Nothing is going to be done. Biden has already given him a big sloppy kiss and assured him everything will be swept under the rug. This the problem when the fox is watching the henhouse.
Maybe. Maybe not. His own AG and his own fellow Dems seem to be raising a bit of a ruckus about it.

That 'big sloppy kiss' is from Biden as well as Pelosi and Schumer. The massive COVID bill is not only going for COVID support for states and cities, it'll also be used to wash away the budget shortfalls caused mismanagement and bad public policies, such as public sector union funding and obligations, which kinda pisses me off. A COVID relief bill should only be for COVID relief, and not mismanagement and bad public policies expenses (which will only continue to cost).
 
Maybe. Maybe not. His own AG and his own fellow Dems seem to be raising a bit of a ruckus about it.

That 'big sloppy kiss' is from Biden as well as Pelosi and Schumer. The massive COVID bill is not only going for COVID support for states and cities, it'll also be used to wash away the budget shortfalls caused mismanagement and bad public policies, such as public sector union funding and obligations, which kinda pisses me off. A COVID relief bill should only be for COVID relief, and not mismanagement and bad public policies expenses (which will only continue to cost).
Just be glad the big banks don't want some money again. Maybe a QE 4, 5, & 6. Then we can watch both parties race to see who can give them the money first. What comes after trillions? Quadrillion?
 
It was known last March that Cuomo was trying to kill old people in nursing homes. Not sure why this is a big story now.
Yeah, next they'll say that he was targeting Jews for unfair treatment... oh... well shit.
 
Just be glad the big banks don't want some money again. Maybe a QE 4, 5, & 6. Then we can watch both parties race to see who can give them the money first. What comes after trillions? Quadrillion?
The QE you are guessing at has already happened.

EDITOR NOTE: What’s the cost of sustaining high asset valuations, like the one we’re seeing now, “above” the real economy? Here’s one: for all the dollars in existence, around 20% of them were printed in this year alone. Here’s another: since March, the government printed forty cents for every dollar in existence. This article illustrates the mechanisms and effects of money printing, from the Federal Reserve’s three-prong approach to increasing the money supply to the assets that are benefiting from it. The tragic thing is that hardly any of this money ever reached the “real economy,” or the average American who makes up the real economy. So, where’d it all go? One thing is for sure, with the U.S. government currently printing $33k for every ounce of gold mined this year and $4.2K for every silver ounce - the prices are sure to rise!

Print enough money and you can increase asset prices under any circumstance. The government has printed 40 cents for every dollar that existed in March.
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All things equal, this would translate to 40% inflation as prices rise due to increased money supply. Of course, in reality inflation increased less than 1%...

When you inflate away debt like this (each dollar represents less and less actual purchasing power), you cause serious damage to those who are on fixed incomes, as well as those who are saving for retirement.
 
The story keeps getting worse and worse, besides the now known reality that New York dealt with the pandemic very poorly (or relatively poorly) it is now known that the number of deaths in nursing homes was seriously under reported by as much as 50%.

https://us.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/andrew-cuomo-nursing-homes-covid-19/index.html

This is utterly disgraceful and as a leader of such a lying administration the governor has to take his responsibility and step down. However, if he is shown not to have a backbone or a moral fiber in his body, the people of NY state should do the only responsible thing to do and remove his ass from power with a recall.
The question is about accountability. Anyone who says Trump is responsible should also hold Cuomo and Newsome to the same standards.
 
The question is about accountability. Anyone who says Trump is responsible should also hold Cuomo and Newsome to the same standards.

You did see me tell everybody that Cuomo needs to go? Right? And it is not accountability for poor performance, that is a different issue, this is lying about the fatality of the disease and not acting to stop the massive death numbers in those facilities.
 
The QE you are guessing at has already happened.

EDITOR NOTE: What’s the cost of sustaining high asset valuations, like the one we’re seeing now, “above” the real economy? Here’s one: for all the dollars in existence, around 20% of them were printed in this year alone. Here’s another: since March, the government printed forty cents for every dollar in existence. This article illustrates the mechanisms and effects of money printing, from the Federal Reserve’s three-prong approach to increasing the money supply to the assets that are benefiting from it. The tragic thing is that hardly any of this money ever reached the “real economy,” or the average American who makes up the real economy. So, where’d it all go? One thing is for sure, with the U.S. government currently printing $33k for every ounce of gold mined this year and $4.2K for every silver ounce - the prices are sure to rise!​
Print enough money and you can increase asset prices under any circumstance. The government has printed 40 cents for every dollar that existed in March.​
m1%20money%20supply.jpg
All things equal, this would translate to 40% inflation as prices rise due to increased money supply. Of course, in reality inflation increased less than 1%...​

When you inflate away debt like this (each dollar represents less and less actual purchasing power), you cause serious damage to those who are on fixed incomes, as well as those who are saving for retirement.
Our dollar is no longer backed by gold. However the FED seems to like their gold reserves. Printing more money is a good thing if you are the recipient of the money. Just ask the banks that make up the FED.

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Our dollar is no longer backed by gold. However the FED seems to like their gold reserves. Printing more money is a good thing if you are the recipient of the money. Just ask the banks that make up the FED.

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Hoping we can avoid a hyperinflation scenario. I hear historically they don't end well.
 
Hoping we can avoid a hyperinflation scenario. I hear historically they don't end well.
The FED and the rich and powerful will be just fine. It is the average citizen that will be handed the bill. The FED did this in 1913 creating the roaring 20's. We know how that ended in 1929 with the great depression. We know how FDR made the people pay for it by buying gold at a low price from the people then raising the price of gold stripping the people of their wealth. The FED and the rich and powerful that made up the FED made out just fine. It was the people who paid.
 
The FED and the rich and powerful will be just fine. It is the average citizen that will be handed the bill. The FED did this in 1913 creating the roaring 20's. We know how that ended in 1929 with the great depression. We know how FDR made the people pay for it by buying gold at a low price from the people then raising the price of gold stripping the people of their wealth. The FED and the rich and powerful that made up the FED made out just fine. It was the people who paid.
Yeah, not a fan of that.
 
The question is about accountability. Anyone who says Trump is responsible should also hold Cuomo and Newsome to the same standards.

I'll see your toothless, partisan B.S. and raise you Bob Woodward's tapes of the one you are irresistibly attracted to..

Trump's "mission" dating back to Reagan, reinforced by Arabian horse judge, "Brownie, yer doin' a heckuva job!" is,

https://www.reaganfoundation.org/ronald-reagan/reagan-quotes-speeches/news-conference-1/
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help. Download Video

Extreme right do not care how the acting out of this Koch-Libertarian propaganda deliberately result in obviously avoidable deaths!

Incidently;

House Democrats Renew Investigation Into Trump COVID-19 ...

"6 days ago ... "The previous Administration refused to cooperate with the Select Subcommittee's inquiries, with the Department of Health and ..."

And one more time, the country was severely damaged by Trump and his authoritarian loving base BECAUSE OF "THE MEDIA" !

Partisanship, Propaganda, and ... - Berkman Klein Center

"..2016 US presidential election. .. the majority of mainstream media coverage was negative for both candidates, but largely followed Donald Trump's agenda: .., coverage primarily focused on the various scandals related to the Clinton Foundation and emails. When focused on Trump, major substantive issues,..

.. On the conservative side, more attention was paid to pro-Trump, highly partisan media outlets. On the liberal side, ..media organizations steeped in the traditions and practices of objective journalism...."

The Times's 'Obsessive' Coverage of Hillary Clinton's Emails
https://www.nytimes.com/
Oct 24, 2019 .. i n just six days, The New York Times ran as many cover stories about Hillary Clinton's emails as they did about all policy issues...

Showtime's 'The Comey Rule' covers Hillary Clinton email ...
https://www.nydailynews.com/
"The idea was always to tell the story about what happened to our democracy in 2016 in time for people to do something about that in 2020 .
Timeline of Hillary Clinton's email scandal - CNN Politics

Oct 28, 2016 - A New York Times report reveals that Clinton told the FBI that Colin Powell recommended that she use a private email server during her tenure as secretary of state.
 
Hoping we can avoid a hyperinflation scenario. I hear historically they don't end well.

There is no hyperinflation scenario and all major countries have debased their own currencies in lockstep.
In addition, unlike in almost all major econmies except UK and the Eurozone, U.S. debt is overwhelmingly dollar denominated.
No Argentinian scenario potential.

I've been reading this guy for fifteen years and if anything, besides being reliable, his concern is deflation.

Generally you and others of the extreme right who post on this forum regard the MSM as your enemy because you stubbornly embrace
truckloads of ideas and concerns identical to those that Koch Industries pay to emphasize! "Truman Show" level insularity.
Do you notice we in the reality based community share few to none of your concerns?
Take your 2A, armed, 1A "exercising" of YOUR rights. You do not understand or turn a blind eye to the "white supremacy stink" surrounding it,
or the absurd hypocrisy of it. 1967: Open carry in California until Gov. Reagan signed it AWAY because "uppity negroes" walked into the Capitol in Sacramento legally carrying long guns!

Armed Black Panthers in the Capitol, 50 years on - Capitol ...
https://capitolweekly.net/black-panthers-armed-capitol/
"It's largely forgotten now, but 50 years ago, it created a national sensation. It even caused the National Rifle Association and Ronald Reagan to back a gun-control bill authored by a Republican. Tuesday is the 50th anniversary of the May 2, 1967 "invasion" of the state Capitol by two dozen gun-toting Black Panthers..."
 
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If the Emmy winner had any decency, he would resign.

But, of course, he doesn't.

I vividly remember his daily TV performances last year. Like his brother, he is really full of himself.

Since he's a Dem, the fake news industry will let him slide (as they have regarding a recent accusation against him by a female former assistant).
 
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