So...were David and Peter "Sunday Christians"?
Which Christian denominations/sects teach salvation by faith, which teach salvation by works, which of the two is correct, and why is it correct ?
God considered David a man after his own heart, but David was far from a perfect person.
He lied, adultery, murder etc ...
No, I am saying you are making this up as you go along.
Youre the one who brought up monks, so I think you ought to stop projecting.
Yep, he was a screw up, but very, very human. Even Paul said he couldn't do the things he wanted to do and couldn't help but do the things he didn't want to do.
So rather than be myself I think this crowd would rather have me put on airs with my fake piety and look down my nose and lie with a smile on my face. Then I'd be just like them.
works are a sign of faith but they do not lead to salvation.
For we are saved by grace through faith not of works least any man should boast.
The only work that the thief on the cross did was believe in Christ as the Son of God.
works are a sign of faith but they do not lead to salvation.
For we are saved by grace through faith not of works least any man should boast.
The only work that the thief on the cross did was believe in Christ as the Son of God.
For those who believe they have to do works first, in order to win justification and THEN salvation, there's this work God requires them to do:
"Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” - John 6:29
Of course, when they believe they are justified by faith (Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 10:9-10, etc.).
Your argument is moot...no one has said that...:roll:
I can't speak for the whole denomination (Church of Christ), but when I went to church, they tried to have it both ways: Saved by the grace of God, but faith without works is dead.
Honestly, I'm a little frightned of people who emphasize faith alone and use that to justify their actions. Such a person is capable of rationalizing anything they do.
I am worried by the "Bible alone" types. They don't have to concern themselves with reconciling their misinterpretations of scripture with the Doctors of the Church, scholars, or history. From those kinds of people you get the Branch Davidians, Jim Jones, and Heavens Gate cults. To them, it's always the "other guys" who are wrong, the other guys being the mainstream Church.
Which Christian denominations/sects teach salvation by faith, which teach salvation by works, which of the two is correct, and why is it correct ?
What an odd thing for someone to say who claims to be a minister of God...where these people went wrong was when they went beyond what was written in the scriptures...making claims that they themselves were a savior instead of pointing people to Christ...
The early Christians got along just fine without the early church fathers or any creeds...they had first-hand knowledge and passed that knowledge on to us with their writings...
Take the apostle, Paul for example...he enjoyed a successful ministry because he relied on the scriptures...nothing else was needed back then, just as nothing else is needed today for our ministry...
"So according to Paul’s custom he went inside to them, and for three sabbaths he reasoned with them from the Scriptures," Acts 17:2
6 Now we speak wisdom among those who are mature, but not the wisdom of this system of things nor that of the rulers of this system of things, who are to come to nothing.
7 But we speak God’s wisdom in a sacred secret, the hidden wisdom, which God foreordained before the systems of things for our glory.
These things we also speak, not with words taught by human wisdom, but with those taught by the spirit, as we explain spiritual matters with spiritual words." 1 Corinthians 2:6,7,13
You should try it sometime...
Show me where it says you can't celebrate the savior's birthday, whenever it was, or the resurrection, whenever it was, for that matter, show me where the savior's death has saved you minus the resurrection, show me where the Bible says you can't get a blood transfusion, not some BS about "eating blood", I want to know where it says "Thou Shall Not Get a Blood Transfusion", show me the part where it says 144000 Jehovah's Witnesses will be the only ones allowed in Heaven. Once you've done all of that then tell me that you have not gone beyond - quite unnecessarily - the scriptures.
lol...deflect much? Research birthdays for yourself...they're pagan...there were only 2 birthday celebrations recorded in the Bible, neither ended well...I have no idea what you're blabbering about the resurrection ...SMH...blood, it's in there...nowhere have I ever said JW's are the only ones going to heaven...another SMH...let me know when you you get your facts straight or even have the slightest idea what you're talking about...
Salvation is by faith alone. It is our faith which leads us to good works but those works are not what save us. Only faith in the risen Christ does.
Luke 23:33-43
That is strange to use that quote since the one supposedly saved did not have faith in the "risen" christ at all.
To me that's like asking, who preaches hoodoo and who preaches voodoo.
Salvation is by faith alone. It is our faith which leads us to good works but those works are not what save us. Only faith in the risen Christ does.
Luke 23:33-43
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