[W: 269: 295:296] *****Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

[Dragonfly]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

You don't have to worry about God doing His part. He said He will enlighten every man who comes into the world and He will.

Deflection noted.

 

[Overitall]

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Suppose the "Holy Spirit Of God" never appears to somebody, or "makes clear" a "choice" must be made?

Also, what if that Holy Spirit is of the Hindu variety?

In that case I think they will be judged by their deeds. There are whole civilizations that have never heard the Gospel. The story of the Good Samaritan seems to address this.

 

[ecofarm]

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BS. They can't prove it from the scriptures and neither can you.

They believe they do. My point is your characterization of their belief was dishonest or ignorant. It's not that Michael is their savior, it's that Michael is Christ in heavenly form.

 

[Divine_Wind]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Suppose the "Holy Spirit Of God" never appears to somebody, or "makes clear" a "choice" must be made?

Also, what if that Holy Spirit is of the Hindu variety?

An all knowing, all merciful God would know the goodness in a person's soul regardless of religion.

 

[it's just me]

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They believe they do. My point is your characterization of their belief was dishonest or ignorant. It's not that Michael is their savior, it's that Michael is Christ in heavenly form.

No matter how you slice it, it's still baloney. If Michael is Christ in heavenly form then he's Christ the savior. And Michael is neither heavenly Christ or earthly Christ. And I defy you to show me from the scriptures that your claim is true.

 

[ecofarm]

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No matter how you slice it, it's still baloney. If Michael is Christ in heavenly form then he's Christ the savior. And Michael is neither heavenly Christ or earthly Christ. And I defy you to show me from the scriptures that your claim is true.

I can google their evidence for you, but you're gonna reject it so what's the point.

 

[Overitall]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

No matter how you slice it, it's still baloney. If Michael is Christ in heavenly form then he's Christ the savior. And Michael is neither heavenly Christ or earthly Christ. And I defy you to show me from the scriptures that your claim is true.

There is 1 Thessalonians 4:16 to suggest it.

 

[Daisy]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Suicide was the one unforgivable sin to a lot of Christians.....I wonder if they were right.....I used to support suicide but not so much anymore...they are so demoralizing.

I think Jehovah takes into account each individual's circumstances, being the loving and merciful God He is, so if someone is mentally/emotionally ill, He will consider that in the resurrection...

 

[VanceMack]

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Your "truth" about gravity is not valid for everybody...

Truth is truth. But those that claim to 'seek truth' should by all means seek it. And I wish them luck on their journey.

 

[Daisy]

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JWs aren't even King James Christians (with rare exception). They use the New International Version and Contemporary English Version last I met with them.

We use several versions, in order to get the gist of the meaning...our NWT goes back to the Hebrew and Greek texts to translate as closely as possible what the original words/meaning was...

 

[Daisy]

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Which version, of the dozens available, do you believe is the one, true Bible? The KJV?...or do you read it in the original Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic?

KJV is the least accurate of all translations...

 

[Daisy]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Yes, they are. Most aren't even Christian. They may claim to be Christians but their actions belie their words.




QED

Bingo!

 

[Daisy]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Now, granted this was developing world, but I never even saw a NWT Bible when I studied with JWs. Maybe in passing, be we used whatever version someone had handy.

Whatever version the person we are studying with is comfortable in using is welcome...when I 1st began studying, I used the KJV for months, until I began to realize that the sister's copy of the NWT made much more sense because it is in modern English, instead of Old World English...from that point on, my go-to is the NWT, followed by the Bible in Living English, American English, Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, the Jerusalem Bible and Today’s English Version...just to name a few...

 

[Divine_Wind]

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KJV is the least accurate of all translations...

Thanks for the thought. I, of course, googled your opinion to check for accuracy. :2razz:

In doing so, I found these two, very similar links pointing out the problems inherent in translating an ancient text into English. They break it down into areas and identify the pros and cons of each. The areas are show in the graphic below. Thanks again for bringing this up so I would be incentivized to look into it.

The 5 Most Accurate Bible Translations. | Faith Founded on Fact

Bible Translation Comparison: Top 10 Most Accurate Bible Translations

 

[Daisy]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

In the US, the percentage of the population that considers themselves religious has been in steady and steep decline for decades. And kids these days are worse behaved than ever, so don't count on a resurgence.

Prophecy being fulfilled...

 

[it's just me]

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I can google their evidence for you, but you're gonna reject it so what's the point.

I've already seen their flimsy "evidence", that's how I know they are in error.

 

[ecofarm]

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Whatever version the person we are studying with is comfortable in using is welcome...when I 1st began studying, I used the KJV for months, until I began to realize that the sister's copy of the NWT made much more sense because it is in modern English, instead of Old World English...from that point on, my go-to is the NWT, followed by the Bible in Living English, American English, Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, the Jerusalem Bible and Today’s English Version...just to name a few...

CEV for me. So easy to read aloud.

 

[it's just me]

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Truth is truth. But those that claim to 'seek truth' should by all means seek it. And I wish them luck on their journey.

I was being sarcastic.

 

[ecofarm]

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I've already seen their flimsy "evidence", that's how I know they are in error.

I've seen the evidence and remember some but not all.

 

[Daisy]

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They do not claim God is a liar.

The ones who lie are the ones who preach and teach falsehoods that are not in the Bible...

 

[Daisy]

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Yeah, they do. They have two. :mrgreen:

The other one is the Watchtower.

lol...the WT is not a Bible...SMH...

 

[Daisy]

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They have two pamphlets and neither is a Bible. They also have an encyclopedia that's not a Bible. I never used the NWT with them.

We have many Bible study aids, based on the Scriptures...

 

[it's just me]

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There is 1 Thessalonians 4:16 to suggest it.

That's the one the left behind fans usually cite for the "rapture".

 

[Overitall]

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lol...the WT is not a Bible...SMH...

But it does contain a lot of Bible in it.

 

[Daisy]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Oh, for God's sake....You must be one of the pod people.

Do you realize that there are at least five places in the KJV where men are referred to as "they who pisseth against the wall"? Check it out and be prepared to clutch your pearls. Language is cultural.

I don't think spreading lies is "Seeking a good spiritual path".

Really? How very Christian of you...:roll: