[W: 269: 295:296] *****Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

[it's just me]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Yes, they are. Most aren't even Christian. They may claim to be Christians but their actions belie their words.




QED

You must be one of the non Christian ones.

 

[it's just me]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

You "Christians" better learn to get along because in a couple generations there ain't gonna be many of you.

I get along with Christians just fine, it's heretics I have a problem with, thank you for your concern.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Unbelievable ignorance. The King James Bible was published by the Church of England hundreds of years before the JWs even existed. If you don't believe the NWT exists go see for yourself. You know nothing about Christianity, and you got snowed by them.

Didn't encounter the NWT when I studied with them (developing world). We used whatever version was available.

 

[Divine_Wind]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

In the US, the percentage of the population that considers themselves religious has been in steady and steep decline for decades. And kids these days are worse behaved than ever, so don't count on a resurgence.

True, but the number is still high. On that same subject, the majority of those who claim "no religion/non-religious" still have spiritual beliefs, meaning beyond the physical. They just don't believe the dogma.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

I get along with Christians just fine, it's heretics I have a problem with, thank you for your concern.

So hateful of others that find salvation in Christ.

 

[Divine_Wind]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

I get along with Christians just fine, it's heretics I have a problem with, thank you for your concern.

Which Christian denominations do you consider to be heretical and which do you consider to be true?

 

[Logician Man]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

I get along with Christians just fine, it's heretics I have a problem with, thank you for your concern.

Was Ghandi a heretic ?

 

[tosca1]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

That's false and asinine. Their interpretation is different.

What do you think false preachers preach?

THEIR OWN - DIFFERENT - INTERPRETATION!

 

[Divine_Wind]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Try reading the damn link.

You are free to hide your beliefs while condemning others. You are free to cuss at others. You are free to believe as you choose. I'm free to believe you are not a Christian as proved by your posts.

Back on topic; God is the Almighty and I fail to see how an all powerful, all merciful and all knowing God would condemn people who are seeking a good, spiritual path regardless of their religion.

While I believe that same God would not condemn people who spread fear and hate, I think those people end up condemning themselves because they are refusing to accept the Grace of God.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

What do you think false preachers preach?

THEIR OWN - DIFFERENT - INTERPRETATION!

They do not claim God is a liar.

 

[it's just me]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Didn't encounter the NWT when I studied with them (developing world). We used whatever version was available.

That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Go find one somewhere and you'll see that their doctrines are purposely baked in to the text, they changed it to reinforce their dogma. They thump their bible all the time knowing full well that what they did is unbiblical. Rev. 22:18

 

[tosca1]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

They don't have their own Bible.

Yeah, they do. They have two. :mrgreen:

The other one is the Watchtower.

 

[Overitall]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Which version, of the dozens available, do you believe is the one, true Bible? The KJV?...or do you read it in the original Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic?

I think 2 Peter 1:21 gives a clue.

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Prophecy by definition would be anything that is foretold or forth-told. It was given to holy men (believers) by inspiration. So the “true bible” would be that which was originally given. What we have today are copies of texts which were copied from texts (the oldest being Greek and Aramaic manuscripts). None of the originals are in existence today.

A lot of theology came into play whenever a text was being copied by the scribes. So it’s not unfeasible for whole verses or sections being modified to correspond to the sects theology. Even to the point of whole books being added or deleted.

So I would say only that which was originally given is the “true bible”.

 

[bongsaway]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Are there any unforgivable sins?

Is there any action or "crime" that has the ultimate consequence of not being forgivable?

My guess is some of you will say that the only possible action that is unforgivable, is not asking for forgiveness.
Is there anything else?

Now since we also know that "god works in mysterious ways", isn't it possible god can forgive even those who don't ask for it?

Yes, being a trump supporter.

 

[tosca1]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

They do not claim God is a liar.

I'm not talking about opinions!

Logic points it that way. :shrug:

 

[ecofarm]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Yeah, they do. They have two. :mrgreen:

The other one is the Watchtower.

They have two pamphlets and neither is a Bible. They also have an encyclopedia that's not a Bible. I never used the NWT with them.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

I'm not talking about opinions!

Logic points it that way. :shrug:

They do not claim God is a liar.

 

[nota bene]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Yes, being a trump supporter.

Really? You had to interject this in a non-political discussion? You couldn't just scroll past when you had nothing on-topic to contribute to the discussion?

 

[tosca1]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

They have two pamphlets and neither is a Bible. They also have an encyclopedia that's not a Bible. I never used the NWT with them.

Call it whatever you like.

The Watchtower and NWT are their AUTHORITATIVE sources, much like we use our own Bible!

 

[ecofarm]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Call it whatever you like.

The Watchtower and NWT are their AUTHORITATIVE sources!

Pretty much every church has pamphlets that are "authoritative sources". It's just Bible quotes and casual discussion of them.

 

[bongsaway]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Really? You had to interject this in a non-political discussion? You couldn't just scroll past when you had nothing on-topic to contribute to the discussion?

Yes really. If you didn't like my response, you could have scrolled past it.

 

[it's just me]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

You are free to hide your beliefs while condemning others. You are free to cuss at others. You are free to believe as you choose. I'm free to believe you are not a Christian as proved by your posts.

Back on topic; God is the Almighty and I fail to see how an all powerful, all merciful and all knowing God would condemn people who are seeking a good, spiritual path regardless of their religion.

While I believe that same God would not condemn people who spread fear and hate, I think those people end up condemning themselves because they are refusing to accept the Grace of God.

Oh, for God's sake....You must be one of the pod people.

Do you realize that there are at least five places in the KJV where men are referred to as "they who pisseth against the wall"? Check it out and be prepared to clutch your pearls. Language is cultural.

I don't think spreading lies is "Seeking a good spiritual path".

 

[Divine_Wind]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

I think 2 Peter 1:21 gives a clue.

Prophecy by definition would be anything that is foretold or forth-told. It was given to holy men (believers) by inspiration. So the “true bible” would be that which was originally given. What we have today are copies of texts which were copied from texts (the oldest being Greek and Aramaic manuscripts). None of the originals are in existence today.

A lot of theology came into play whenever a text was being copied by the scribes. So it’s not unfeasible for whole verses or sections being modified to correspond to the sects theology. Even to the point of whole books being added or deleted.

So I would say only that which was originally given is the “true bible”.

Which you just stated "None of the originals are in existence today."

Many of the OT books do still exist in original form. The NT was written on the fly several decades after the Crucifixion then, a few hundred years later, a few books were selected out of many to convey the message of those who were in power.

Christianity evolved over several hundred years to become the form we see today. The concept of the Trinity was not among the original ideas. Same goes for the divinity of Christ.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Oh, for God's sake....You must be one of the pod people.

Do you realize that there are at least five places in the KJV where men are referred to as "they who pisseth against the wall"? Check it out and be prepared to clutch your pearls. Language is cultural.

I don't think spreading lies is "Seeking a good spiritual path".

For you it's all about self worth. Elitism is what you seek, not enlightenment.

 

[tosca1]

Re: Are There Any "Unforgivable" Sins ????

Pretty much every church has pamphlets that are "authoritative sources". It's just Bible quotes and casual discussion of them.

Well - looks like you are not familiar with NWT and Watchtower. You can't make comparisons with something you hardly know.