[W:25] Every Dem senator votes to advance eco-terrorist-linked nominee who endorsed population control

[GummyVitamins]

Every Dem senator votes to advance eco-terrorist-linked nominee who endorsed population control

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., ordered the vote to discharge Tracy Stone-Manning’s nomination for BLM director from the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee that it was frozen in after a tied vote.

www.foxnews.com

Every Democratic senator voted to advance the nomination of an alleged eco-terrorist collaborator who also endorsed population control and once applauded a call to let people’s houses caught in forest fires burn.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., ordered the vote to discharge Tracy Stone-Manning's nomination for Bureau of Land Management (BLM) director from the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee. Her nomination was previously stuck in committee after a tied vote.

The Tuesday vote saw the Senate split down party lines on Stone-Manning, 50-49, with every Democrat voting in favor of advancing President Biden's embattled nominee.

The Biden administration nominated an admitted terrorist to lead the Bureau of Land Management and the committee was gridlocked on her confirmation which required a full Senate vote. Every Democrat in the Senate voted to confirm a terrorist to lead a government Bureau. Multiple Obama officials have come out to publicly oppose this terrorist's nomination. The BLM nominated deputy at a recent hearing couldn't even defend this nomination saying it wasn't her decision to pick her.

Tracy Stone-Manning was an active member of the eco-terrorist group Earth First! and for years worked to prevent prosecution of other members of the terrorist organization. Eventually the prosecutor was able to find direct evidence of Tracy Stone-Manning and she was brought in and forced to provide fingerprints, hair samples and handwriting samples. She got a lawyer and negotiated immunity for ratting out her co-terrorists.

The evidence against Tracy Stone-Manning is that she rented a typewriter to try to prevent federal law enforcement from matching the letter to her and then revised and typed up a threatening and expletive laced letter regarding their tree spiking operation and the danger involved if they tried to find her and her co-conspirators. Tree spiking is when you place metal spikes in trees with the purpose of destroying any saws/blades during logging and harvesting. It creates shrapnel that becomes extremely dangerous and potentially lethal. Terrorists place spikes inside random trees to make it dangerous to have them cut down and in response it becomes too risky to move forward with plans to harvest them.

Prosecutors also have evidence that she was part of the planning phase and she brought up the merits of deciding between metal or ceramic spikes in the trees.

Tracy Stone-Manning later lied to the Senate by stating she has never been the target of an investigation when she in fact was. She received a "target" letter from a grand jury, she was brought in for fingerprinting, DNA/hair samples, and forced to provide handwriting samples. She later admitted she would have been convicted of these crimes if not for her immunity deal. This has been discussed on this forum previously and some people here awkwardly showed their support for this terrorist to lead the BLM. I'm not sure how people can ethically justify this decision, especially considering she continues to lie about it. But, apparently every Democrat in the Senate doesn't have a problem with it either. One can only guess how they would feel if Trump nominated a terrorist to lead HUD.

 

[Ikari]

Fox's sensationalist headline aside, she is a very poor choice for BLM.

 

[Cardinal]

All we have to describe Stone-Manning is the Fox News article, and any attempt to get to the unbiased heart of the conflict with her only leads to more Fox articles.

Meh.

 

[Plasmaball]

Neat.

 

[GummyVitamins]

All we have to describe Stone-Manning is the Fox News article, and any attempt to get to the unbiased heart of the conflict with her only leads to more Fox articles.

Meh.

Neat.

Unfortunate, yet expected responses. Perhaps this is why she is being confirmed. If only the media would properly report on news stories that go against the Biden administration there would have been enough public criticism to prevent a terrorist from being confirmed. Democrats know people won't really watch the CSPAN hearings of the nomination process which is allowing them to obfuscate this pick and letting it slide under the radar.

 

[Cardinal]

Unfortunate, yet expected responses. Perhaps this is why she is being confirmed. If only the media would properly report on news stories that go against the Biden administration there would have been enough public criticism to prevent a terrorist from being confirmed. Democrats know people won't really watch the CSPAN hearings of the nomination process which is allowing them to obfuscate this pick and letting it slide under the radar.

You knew in advance that nobody was going to take your source seriously. You knew the crowd, and you knew that if you wanted to be taken seriously you should have used legitimate and respectable sources.

You have nobody but yourself to blame.

 

[JustAFella]

You all should have tried harder to stop the steal instead of rolling over like Betas and letting us take your Democracy over.

 

[Ikari]

All we have to describe Stone-Manning is the Fox News article, and any attempt to get to the unbiased heart of the conflict with her only leads to more Fox articles.

Meh.

There's some info out there.

Senate Republicans Criticize Biden's Nominee To Head Bureau Of Land Management

Republicans are pressuring President Biden to withdraw his nominee to be the country's next public lands chief amid controversy over her alleged involvement in a tree spiking incident in the 1980s.

www.npr.org

Senate Republicans are pressuring President Biden to withdraw his nominee to be the country's next U.S. public lands chief. Democrat Tracy Stone-Manning is Montana's former top environmental regulator. Her confirmation is expected to go before a Senate committee for an initial vote this week. Here's NPR's Kirk Siegler.

KIRK SIEGLER, BYLINE: The president's nominee to lead the Federal Bureau of Land Management, Tracy Stone-Manning, has a reputation here in the West as a moderate and bipartisan dealmaker on contentious public lands battles. Republicans today, though, are focused on a narrow slice of her past - in the 1980s, as a grad student in Missoula, at the height of the so-called Timber Wars over rampant clear-cut logging. Back then, Stone-Manning sent a letter on behalf of Earth First!, warning the government that trees at a planned federal timber sale had been sabotaged, putting loggers' lives in danger. Here's Alaska Republican Dan Sullivan speaking on the Senate floor.
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SIEGLER: But Stone-Manning later testified against the tree-spikers in federal court, saying she sent the letter because she didn't want anyone to get hurt. She's not currently giving interviews, but her supporters are rallying on her behalf, saying these GOP objections came up long before in Montana and were put to rest. Montana Senator Jon Tester, who Stone-Manning once worked for, also sits on the committee

So there are allegations that back in the 80's, while in grad school, she participated in some event involving tree-spiking. Which can be, is meant to be, exceptionally dangerous to loggers. They do say she testified against them in the end, so it's maybe that she didn't participate in the tree-spiking but rather was whistle-blowing to alert people to it.

Though it should be remembered that Trump's own nominee had come out in support of the armed standoff by ranchers. So mostly this is a lot to do about nothing.

 

[Napoleon]

There's some info out there.

Senate Republicans Criticize Biden's Nominee To Head Bureau Of Land Management

Republicans are pressuring President Biden to withdraw his nominee to be the country's next public lands chief amid controversy over her alleged involvement in a tree spiking incident in the 1980s.

www.npr.org

So there are allegations that back in the 80's, while in grad school, she participated in some event involving tree-spiking. Which can be, is meant to be, exceptionally dangerous to loggers. They do say she testified against them in the end, so it's maybe that she didn't participate in the tree-spiking but rather was whistle-blowing to alert people to it.

Though it should be remembered that Trump's own nominee had come out in support of the armed standoff by ranchers. So mostly this is a lot to do about nothing.

There’s more to it than that. She was in direct communication with the terrorist organization and at minimum served as the editor and distributor of their material relating to a tree spiking incident. Her immunity deal was to testify against the person who fed her the material for editing, typing, and mailing. She wasn’t a whistleblower. She was an active member of a terrorist organization since college and refused to tell law enforcement anything without an immunity deal.

 

[Ikari]

There’s more to it than that. She was in direct communication with the terrorist organization and at minimum served as the editor and distributor of their material relating to a tree spiking incident. Her immunity deal was to testify against the person who fed her the material for editing, typing, and mailing. She wasn’t a whistleblower. She was an active member of a terrorist organization since college and refused to tell law enforcement anything without an immunity deal.

I haven't seen much information along those lines. There was the letter she typed out and mailed, and there's her testimony; and that's the information I have seen in regards to her involvement.

Biden Pick To Head The Bureau Of Land Management Is Closer To Confirmation

Tracy Stone-Manning, who currently works for the National Wildlife Federation, has come under Republican fire for her ties to a radical environmental group when she was a graduate student 1989.

www.npr.org

Regardless, I do think that even that connection may impact her effectiveness heading the BLM. And the BLM hasn't had a confirmed director since the Obama administration, so whomever takes over has a lot of work to do.

 

[Mr Person]

Are we supposed to listen to a supporter of the most actively criminal administration in history, a person who has squealed, squealed, and squealed some more about "canceling", whinging on about someone who turned state's evidence forty years ago?

There are maybe three Republicans with standing to speak here.

 

[Cardinal]

There's some info out there.

Senate Republicans Criticize Biden's Nominee To Head Bureau Of Land Management

Republicans are pressuring President Biden to withdraw his nominee to be the country's next public lands chief amid controversy over her alleged involvement in a tree spiking incident in the 1980s.

www.npr.org

So there are allegations that back in the 80's, while in grad school, she participated in some event involving tree-spiking. Which can be, is meant to be, exceptionally dangerous to loggers. They do say she testified against them in the end, so it's maybe that she didn't participate in the tree-spiking but rather was whistle-blowing to alert people to it.

Though it should be remembered that Trump's own nominee had come out in support of the armed standoff by ranchers. So mostly this is a lot to do about nothing.

So a grad student once participated in tree spiking, realized how dangerous it was and warned loggers off and testified against the tree spikers to law enforcement.

Not really the narrative Fox News was trying to deliver here.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Every Dem senator votes to advance eco-terrorist-linked nominee who endorsed population control

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., ordered the vote to discharge Tracy Stone-Manning’s nomination for BLM director from the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee that it was frozen in after a tied vote.

www.foxnews.com

Every Democratic senator voted to advance the nomination of an alleged eco-terrorist collaborator who also endorsed population control and once applauded a call to let people’s houses caught in forest fires burn.

Population control ?....

Well just wait till the SJW Libtards realize that the groups of people that should be "Controlled" are the Criminals, the Poor, mentally challenged, under achieving students, and people who can’t get a job that will support them, in general ! Those groups encompasses just about every "Victim Group" the DEM's uses to grow Government ....

If the AOC types out there REALLY want to combat “Climate Change”, then Human population is Enemy #1 !!! Have at it !

 

[GummyVitamins]

They do say she testified against them in the end, so it's maybe that she didn't participate in the tree-spiking but rather was whistle-blowing to alert people to it.

She wasn't whistleblowing. The prosecution kept coming to her for information so they could charge her co-conspirators and she refused to give them any information. It wasn't until they showed her their evidence against her and were ready to prosecute her with everyone else that she gave the prosecution more evidence. She saved her own ass.

 

[GummyVitamins]

Population control ?....

Well just wait till the SJW Libtards realize that the groups of people that should be "Controlled" are the Criminals, the Poor, mentally challenged, under achieving students, and people who can’t get a job that will support them, in general ! Those groups encompasses just about every "Victim Group" the DEM's uses to grow Government ....

If the AOC types out there REALLY want to combat “Climate Change”, then Human population is Enemy #1 !!! Have at it !

Yea, there's a lot of reasons someone could oppose her nomination including her views on population control. This is the kind of stuff she was involved with from a population control perspective. To me, that isn't necessarily something that should be a deal breaker for everyone despite me finding her views to be brash and absurd.



During the hearings it was also discovered that her husband wrote an article in Harper's magazine that firefighters should let homes built in forests burn to the ground. He also advocated burning down homes built in forests writing "there’s a rude and satisfying justice in burning down the house of someone who builds in the forest." After the article was published she wrote an endorsement of these ideas saying it was a clarion call. The young folks on this forum may not know what a clarion call is. It's basically an enthusiastic request for people to do something. In my view, that is something that should be a dealbreaker to lead the friggin BLM for anyone with a shred of a decent conscious.

 

[GummyVitamins]

So a grad student once participated in tree spiking, realized how dangerous it was and warned loggers off and testified against the tree spikers to law enforcement.

Not really the narrative Fox News was trying to deliver here.

I get people want to desperately defend a terrorist when it's their terrorist, but there was a lot of back and forth during the hearings about the letter that was written. Supposedly, not all of the information in the letter was fully accurate in regards to where the spikes were actually placed and it wasn't designed to be a warning, but rather a threat. You know, threatening someone with violence to meet a political agenda. We sometimes call those people terrorists.

 

[Kushinator]

I like to play Guess That Q source. I lost... my guess was OANN....

 

[GummyVitamins]

I like to play Guess That Q source. I lost... my guess was OANN....

The source for the vast majority of this information is from a letter written by the prosecutor who gave her immunity and prosecuted her co-conspirators. He wanted to make sure the committee knew exactly what she did and that she was not an innocent bystander. That was how the committee learned about her previous terrorist activities and that she had lied to the committee.

My guess is that the Biden administration didn't know about this after their vetting process and once she was nominated his party didn't want him to lose face so they're just pushing her along. They know people will say the prosecutor is lying and blame it Russian or Chinese propaganda. So, this post fits my assumption. However, it is becoming increasingly clear that a lot of people are just accepting of a certain amount of terrorism as long as it's someone who aligns with their chosen political party. You should probably question your own biased media outlets if you haven't learned that a prosecutor has informed the Senate that they're about to confirm a terrorist to a high position of government. It might be a better use of time than ranting on the internet about qanon and OANN.

 

[watsup]

Yes, population control is needed to try to prevent the huge overpopulation of the world from destroying it.

 

[Cardinal]

I get people want to desperately defend a terrorist when it's their terrorist, but there was a lot of back and forth during the hearings about the letter that was written. Supposedly, not all of the information in the letter was fully accurate in regards to where the spikes were actually placed and it wasn't designed to be a warning, but rather a threat. You know, threatening someone with violence to meet a political agenda. We sometimes call those people terrorists.

Based on the NPR article Ikari provided, I see nothing to convince me that she was, let alone is, a terrorist. Your own personal claims are insufficient.

But I'm not obstinate on this point, and if you have more information from a legitimate source I'll be happy to consider it.

 

[GummyVitamins]

Based on the NPR article Ikari provided, I see nothing to convince me that she was, let alone is, a terrorist. Your own personal claims are insufficient.

But I'm not obstinate on this point, and if you have more information from a legitimate source I'll be happy to consider it.

Then perhaps you should do more research rather than pretend it doesn't exist because a single article. Or, if you're going to defer to Ikari perhaps you should use her judgement and stand against terrorist nominations.

Letter attached.

 

[GummyVitamins]

Contrary to the many stories in the news, Ms. Stone Manning was not an innocent bystander, nor was she a victim in this case. And, she most certainly was not a hero. Ms. Stone-Manning was not only a member of Earth First!, but she played an active role in the Earth First! hierarchy. The group would not describe itself as one that has designated leaders, however, it was clear to those of us familiar with the activities of the group that she not only was an active participant but also wielded significant influence among its members.

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I obtained a federal search warrant that ordered me to search a residence, commonly known as the Sherwood House, that had been identified as the local Earth First! residence in Missoula, Montana. The members of Earth First! had recently been involved in a tree-spiking seminar at the University of Montana, where they taught participants how to properly and effectively spike trees. My law enforcement investigation team and I went through the house and seized computer disks and other evidence that tied the residents of the house to Clearwater National Forest tree spiking. After presenting this evidence to Assistant U.S. Attorney, Mr. George Brietsmeter, he scheduled the case to be heard by a federal grand jury seated in Boise, Idaho. After hearing my testimony, the grand jury issued subpoenas for hair samples, hand writing examplars, and finger prints. These subpoenas were served on persons suspected of having knowledge of the incident, including Ms. Tracy Stone-Manning.

Throughout this initial investigation in 1989, Ms. Stone-Manning was extremely difficult to work with; in fact, she was the nastiest of suspects. She was vulgar, antagonistic, and extremely anti-government. She was very uncooperative and refused to provide the hair, hand writing exemplars, and fingerprints as order by the federal grand jury. It was not until after we informed her that she would be arrested if she did not comply with the subpoena that she reluctantly provided those samples to me. However, she refused to answer any of my other questions. Eventually, after further investigation, I discovered that she had known all along who had perpetrated the crimes in the Clearwater National Forest.

In December 1992, I received a call from the FBI in Boston, asking If I knew anything about a tree-spiking incident in the Clearwater National Forest in the spring of 1989. I replied that I did end the FBI agent told me they had a young woman in their office who had come forward with Information concerning the spiking. Ms. Guenevere Lilburn told the FBI agents she could identify those involved in the incident. I flew to Boston to Interview her. Ms. Lilburn gave me several names of those Involved, including Ms. Stone-Manning's. She described how Ms. Stone--Manning typed and mailed the letter to the Forest Service. She also recounted a conversation she had overheard wherein Ms. Stone-Manning along with other co-conspirators planned the tree spiking and discussed whether to use ceramic or metal spikes in the trees. Through Ms. Lilburn's account, it became clear that Ms. Stone-Manning was an active member of the original group that planned the spiking of the Post Office Timber Sale trees.

As a result of Ms. Lilburn's testimony, the grand Jury sent Ms. Stone-Manning a "target letter" which meant she was going to be indicted on criminal charges for her active participation in planning these crimes. She hired an attorney who negotiated a deal with the Assistant United States Attorney to gain immunity in exchange for her testimony against the other defendants. While she did provide testimony against her co-conspirators, she still was not forthright about the role she herself played In this case.

Let me be clear. Ms. Stone-Manning only came forward only after her attorney struck the immunity deal, and not before she was caught. At no time did she come forward of her own volition, and she was never entirely forthcoming. She was aware that she was being Investigated in 1989 and again in 1993 when she agreed to the immunity deal with the government to avoid criminal felony prosecution. I know, because I was the Special Agent in Charge of the Investigation.

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My experiences over the last several years of my career with the Earth First! organization is the primary reason I retired early. During the last years of my career with the Forest Service, this eco-terrorist organization harassed me and my family. In fact, I received death threats from them and at one point and was made aware that they had solicited a contract to kill me and harm my family. Although It's been more than 25 years since then, I am still concerned about what the members of this group could do to me and my family.

 

[Cardinal]

Then perhaps you should do more research rather than pretend it doesn't exist because a single article.

You started this discussion and sought to convince us that Stone-Manning wasn't qualified for the job, so you can can the snotty attitude.

Letter attached.

Which you were perfectly capable of doing at the start without the godzilla-sized chip on your shoulder.

I'll read it now.

 

[GummyVitamins]

You started this discussion and sought to convince us that Stone-Manning wasn't qualified for the job, so you can can the snotty attitude.


Which you were perfectly capable of doing at the start without the godzilla-sized chip on your shoulder.

I'll read it now.

I watched most of the hearings where this terrorist was debated. It's not my job to convince you that news reports of someone being a terrorist are true just because your initial inclination is to support the terrorist due to partisan reasons. If you want to provide better counter-evidence that she wasn't a member of a terrorist group and didn't help facilitate their terrorist activities, then by all means.. I'm all ears.

 

[RedAkston]

Moderator's Warning:

Let's stick to the topic which isn't attacking other posters.