[W:233] Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common

[Big Eye]

I think I read yesterday that the chances of anyone under the age of 18 dying from Covid is 1 in 500,000….and most of them are already seriously ill.

 

[Big Eye]

So what?

We are talking about COVID and the death toll you apparently have now knowledge nor concern about.

My concern is more with the response to Covid than the fact that Covid speeds up the death by a few weeks of mainly very old people. Average age of death for Covid is actually slightly above the UK’s life expectancy.

 

[Fledermaus]

They just don’t and pretending they do is a lie.

More lying.

You do realize at this point numerous people have tried to educate you on COVID, its prevention and its effects world wide.

You have in turn made ridiculous claims, you have gone full CT and generally demonstrate you have no clue.

You are the epitome of "You can teach them but you can't learn them".

 

[Fledermaus]

I think I read yesterday that the chances of anyone under the age of 18 dying from Covid is 1 in 500,000….and most of them are already seriously ill.

I think you made that up as you are wont to do.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I had glandular fever when I was young…took months to recover. Many illnesses do that.

and apparently this one has lasting effects too, so I'm not sure why anyone would label those symptoms propaganda when 10% of those who have had COVID 19 are affected.

 

[Fledermaus]

My concern is more with the response to Covid than the fact that Covid speeds up the death by a few weeks of mainly very old people. Average age of death for Covid is actually slightly above the UK’s life expectancy.

Please make more stupid claims.



Unless you consider 0-64 "old people" of course.

Anyone in those demographics were did not simply lose "a few weeks".

The average age of death on my mothers side is 90+.

 

[Big Eye]

I think you made that up as you are wont to do.

Suck this…

Covid: Children's extremely low risk confirmed by study

The overall risk of death is around two in a million children, scientists looking at England's data estimate.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Big Eye]

and apparently this one has lasting effects too, so I'm not sure why anyone would label those symptoms propaganda when 10% of those who have had COVID 19 are affected.

I believe you could be ill from this for a while…but that’s no different to flu or any number of other common diseases.

 

[bluesmoke]

My neighbors are grown...they can make their own decisions...

As in making their own oppositional defiant decision. "grown" biologically, but Trump and followers remain emotionally children, defying the adults and throwing tantrums when feeling opposed or denied. That's the pattern.

 

[Big Eye]

Please make more stupid claims.

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Unless you consider 0-64 "old people" of course.

Anyone in those demographics were did not simply lose "a few weeks".

The average age of death on my mothers side is 90+.

The simple fact is that of the very few younger people that do die from this the vast majority are unwell…including obesity…which is obviously a big problem in the West.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I believe you could be ill from this for a while…but that’s no different to flu or any number of other common diseases.

Yep, but since this is a novel virus, those effects are still not known. The concerning aspect of the long term impacts we know of thus far are lung damage and mental clarity.

 

[Fledermaus]

Suck this…

Covid: Children's extremely low risk confirmed by study

The overall risk of death is around two in a million children, scientists looking at England's data estimate.

www.bbc.co.uk

Poor Big Eye....

It isn't just the death rate the experts are concerned of...

It is the long term after effects.

It is the transmissible COVID.


And you didn't read it.

Did you?

But he said if there were adequate vaccines, their research suggested certain groups of children could benefit from receiving Covid jabs.

He added: "I think from our data, and in my entirely personal opinion, it would be very reasonable to vaccinate a number of groups we have studied, who don't have a particularly high risk of death, but we do know that their risk of having severe illness and coming to intensive care, while still low, is higher than the general population."
He said further vaccine data - expected imminently from other countries, including the US and Israel - should be taken into account when making the decision.

 

[Fledermaus]

The simple fact is that of the very few younger people that do die from this the vast majority are unwell…including obesity…which is obviously a big problem in the West.

The simple fact is that you talk out your ass every time you make claims like:

"Covid speeds up the death by a few weeks of mainly very old people"

"Good news is they can’t catch it again so don’t have to risk the vaccination."

 

[Ethel2]

That kind of emotive bullshit over a very low risk ( long Covid) exposes your weak thinking. I’m probably a lot more compassionate than your average Covid zealot…and also a lot more realistic…like I don’t think that non virus masks stop viruses…but you do.

Its a fact that masks reduce but do not eliminate viral transmission by blocking some of the exhaled aerosols. The better the mask the more aerosols that get blocked. These are facts, not guesses.
As for your level of compassion-I don't know you. I know you got your vaccine and that excludes you from the covidiot club.
I think you are wrong about not wanting kids to get vaccinated. As a board certified pediatrician I feel ethically obliged to recommend to my patients (if I was still in practice that is) the best possible advice for my patients. Actually, am still giving covid vaccines to kids as a volunteer for my local health department. I make it a point to thoroughly go through a lot of information about benefits and side effects with each patient, based on their age and level of understanding of course. The risk is not just to them-its to their grandparents, their friends and relatives with cancer or on prednisone etc and the risk of more viral load in the community which could lead to an escape variant.
The delta variant is MUCH more contagious-about 4-6 times more transmissible. While before you could get away with walking past an infected person in the supermarket with this variant you could easily get infected just passing past an infected shopper. In LA county there are 400 people in the hospital right now. EVERY ONE OF THEM is either unvaccinated or undervaccinated.
There is no excuse any more not to get your shots. You did. Others should as well.

 

[Quag]

You basically want to vaccinate kids ( who are at virtually zero risk of dying from Covid) to save your ass…and assuming you are not ill or unjabbed…low risk too. You need to rethink your morals.

You want the virus to continue on infecting people mutate and kill even more people

 

[Quag]

Long term ones that may emerge…don’t forget some of these vaccines are new technology…might be great , might not. I’ve had the Pfizer jabs…some doctors are concerned about it’s ability to form blood clots…but I’ll let you know if I have a heart attack lol.

Wait you are pretending there are no long term effects of COVID, which we know is false and pretending that there may be long term effects of the vaccine which have never been seen

Wow what a uniquely incoherent stance you have taken

 

[Luce]

For everyone that died of or with Covid 4 died of something else…but obviously you don’t give a shit about that.

So, since we can't prevent all deaths, we should just let a pandemic do its thing?

 

[Big Eye]

Yep, but since this is a novel virus, those effects are still not known. The concerning aspect of the long term impacts we know of thus far are lung damage and mental clarity.

I think those aspects are being deliberately overplayed...much like the death toll. But in any case vaccinating kids would only have a tiny effect since the vast majority of them get no real issues at all...and actually getting Covid is s good way of getting the antibodies at an early age.

 

[Big Eye]

Poor Big Eye....

It isn't just the death rate the experts are concerned of...

It is the long term after effects.

It is the transmissible COVID.


And you didn't read it.

Did you?

But he said if there were adequate vaccines, their research suggested certain groups of children could benefit from receiving Covid jabs.

He added: "I think from our data, and in my entirely personal opinion, it would be very reasonable to vaccinate a number of groups we have studied, who don't have a particularly high risk of death, but we do know that their risk of having severe illness and coming to intensive care, while still low, is higher than the general population."
He said further vaccine data - expected imminently from other countries, including the US and Israel - should be taken into account when making the decision.

You obviously have comprehension issues because I have said a number of times that kids at risk should be vaccinated...but they are very small in number.

 

[Big Eye]

The simple fact is that you talk out your ass every time you make claims like:

"Covid speeds up the death by a few weeks of mainly very old people"

"Good news is they can’t catch it again so don’t have to risk the vaccination."

Risk of death to under 18s from Covid is 1 in 500,000 ...most of them already seriously ill. What the **** don't you understand?

 

[Big Eye]

Its a fact that masks reduce but do not eliminate viral transmission by blocking some of the exhaled aerosols. The better the mask the more aerosols that get blocked. These are facts, not guesses.
As for your level of compassion-I don't know you. I know you got your vaccine and that excludes you from the covidiot club.
I think you are wrong about not wanting kids to get vaccinated. As a board certified pediatrician I feel ethically obliged to recommend to my patients (if I was still in practice that is) the best possible advice for my patients. Actually, am still giving covid vaccines to kids as a volunteer for my local health department. I make it a point to thoroughly go through a lot of information about benefits and side effects with each patient, based on their age and level of understanding of course. The risk is not just to them-its to their grandparents, their friends and relatives with cancer or on prednisone etc and the risk of more viral load in the community which could lead to an escape variant.
The delta variant is MUCH more contagious-about 4-6 times more transmissible. While before you could get away with walking past an infected person in the supermarket with this variant you could easily get infected just passing past an infected shopper. In LA county there are 400 people in the hospital right now. EVERY ONE OF THEM is either unvaccinated or undervaccinated.
There is no excuse any more not to get your shots. You did. Others should as well.

Anything that may have a tiny , partial effect can actually cause a negative outcome...for instance wearing a mask not fit for the purpose may delude someone that they can take more chances mixing...because they have been utterly misinformed about the usefulness of most masks.

Vaccinating kids for a slightly reduced risk to adults is wrong ...these vaccines may have long term detrimental effects ...but it may not be the old people feeling them.

 

[Big Eye]

You want the virus to continue on infecting people mutate and kill even more people

Covid is here to stay...animals get it too...it will come back from the animal kingdom even if the whole of humanity was vaccinated.

 

[Big Eye]

Wait you are pretending there are no long term effects of COVID, which we know is false and pretending that there may be long term effects of the vaccine which have never been seen

Wow what a uniquely incoherent stance you have taken

I think risks have to be balanced...let's see if these vaccines start causing problems for adults before we jab kids...your rush to vaccination with no long term studies is worrying.

 

[Big Eye]

So, since we can't prevent all deaths, we should just let a pandemic do its thing?

All at risk should be vaccinated...that doesn't include people that have already had the disease since they have the antibodies already.

 

[Quag]

Covid is here to stay...animals get it too...it will come back from the animal kingdom even if the whole of humanity was vaccinated.

We could get another coronavirus jumping from animals to humans, it has happened before after all but you seem confused and think all coronaviruses are COVID 19
You would be wrong about that as you are about everything else